Diego Costa

[Sidzeret 2,257]

Etoo is officially 33, according to jose he is 35 and 39 accorsing to his ex. He probably has been our no.1 striker this season deapite being on vacation in russia for 2 years.

Next year we won't be "building" a team for future but actually going all out for titles. Rvp despite him being a cunt (like costa isnot), is a phenomenol striker. He is no more injury prone than rooney who we were officially targetting. So don't see why its not an option.

When we can do both by buying Cavani or Costa or Mandzukic?

[BlueLyon 9,359]

When people say "I doubt costa. He dives around. Morwover he has had only one good season as a striker that too in a league where even SOLDADO (of all people) scored 30 goals last season. So I don't think he is worth 32mil

Well well dont throw all apples in one basket. Negredo was also one of top strikers and did very well in City so far didnt he? Besides Soldado had 24 goals, not 30.

And Costa did quite well in CL, he scored 5 goals despite playing there for first time. He scored many game winning goals like the one vs Milan recently or Real few months ago. He is also different type than Soldado, Soldado is not that strong while Costa is much stronger, just like Negredo.

And if Costa is such average striker why did both Spain and Brazil fight for him?

[didierforever 7,349]

When we can do both by buying Cavani or Costa or Mandzukic?

that is true. But next year our primary objective will be to win titles. If we have to sacrifice "building for the future" in one area while having lukaku as a back up striker, I don't think that's the worst possible thing.

Like I said before to TOPTB, these are all viable options.

[didierforever 7,349]

Well well dont throw all apples in one basket. Negredo was also one of top strikers and did very well in City so far didnt he? Besides Soldado had 24 goals, not 30.

And Costa did quite well in CL, he scored 5 goals despite playing there for first time. He scored many game winning goals like the one vs Milan recently or Real few months ago. He is also different type than Soldado, Soldado is not that strong while Costa is much stronger, just like Negredo.

And if Costa is such average striker why did both Spain and Brazil fight for him?

Now that is a very good and sensible reply to the doubts rather than just bringing DD in the equation.

As for spain and brazil, both have brilliant mid and defence but simply don't have a good striker. So simply makes sense for them to fight for a striker having a great season in the world cup season.

[Mr_President 404]

Said it a while ago and I'll say it again, he would be great for us. Ignore the fact he is a twat. I bet if he wasn't there wouldn't be half the debate there is now. I haven't seen stories about racism/biting opponents (maybe he has done this but I haven't noticed...) so he is nothing we cannot tolerate as fans, especially if he brings goals/victories. As - I think it was - ProudLyon said in a very good post, we don't need a 30+ goal a season striker. We need a guy that can be an 'all round' CF, finish the chances that we do create and bully/harass defenders. Now, from watching the Madrid derby, where he wasn't at his best this season (but still should have had a peno or two), one can quite easily tell what a royal pain in the arse he will be for defences. This is just what we need, with more dangerous players upfront the defending team's defenders are focused on more people, creating more space for the likes of Hazard to work their magic.

And then the question is, if not Costa, who? Falcao is older, injured, owned by cash rich Monaco and has only recently moved. Cavani is the same minus the injury and age. Lewandowski has gone to Bayern. Rooney is staying at United. Do we trust Lukaku to lead the line?

I'm sure the club will explore all possible avenues before signing Costa, but it strikes me that he is the best we can get and would be bloody good for us.

[Yeboii 1,844]

We can see how good he is by how angry Brazil was to lose him, that's my opinion.

[Benches not the shed 77]

All this talk of top draw strikers makes me think cos of the amount of chances we have the potential to create in a game we don't necessarily need cavani, RVP etc... A fox in the box is what is needed IMO preferably very strong in the air... Sounds a bit like Alan Shearer.

[BloodIsBlue 291]

Just because you're signing and playing an older player doesn't mean you've given up on building for the future. You can't accept really young players at every position, its nice and you're happy with it when they are extraordinary but it will be a joke. You could field a team of 20-23 year olds in the prem but it would be nothing more than funny... You needs a nice mix with a strategy for moving players for the through the years. Personally in the BPL I can't stand young players in the pivot, hence why we have Matic now and not before. Certain roles and positions are not played well by young players, striker is another one of those positions.

And if Costa is such average striker why did both Spain and Brazil fight for him?

Scolari was stalling so Del Bosque jumped in to make things complicated, legit soap opera shit going on. He wouldn't play for either team if it wasn't strategic to stop the other team, where was he during qualification? Scolari doesn't want him but he doesn't want anyone else to have him.

Personally I don't like his dribbling, its very un-Brazilian and , he'll just end up trying to arm and muscle around people and getting a lot of fouls called against us. I want the kind of guy that draws fouls because he is quick with his feet. If someone pushes Costa down it's probably because Costa was just trying to push him down.

[Rekin 835]

Just to remind everyone who seems to have forgotten some key facts.

Diego Costa has 41 goals & 14 assists in his last three seasons in La Liga, and for one of those he was not even playing as a striker. For another, he was playing in Rayo which is not exactly a top team. He has also scored and provided assists (and had some of his better games) against teams likes Real, Barcelona or Sociedad in the league. In CL he has scored against Porto and Milan (and others), teams that might not be the absolute elite but that are still worth mentioning.
Many of those goals have come from sheer will as much as anything else.

He has brute strength, he can finish, he can pass, he has an amazing work rate, is a team player, can head the ball well and is great off the ball.
Why exactly would he be a bad purchase? There is a difference between there being better strikers in the world, and there being better strikers available for a reasonable price.

He does not have a serious injury that could threaten his impact in the league, he still has his best years ahead of him, he is versatile in terms of positioning and would cost £32m which is very reasonable.

Forget Mandzukic, Falcao or Cavani. This is the only striker that we need to buy. Costa and Lukaku would be an excellent set of strikers, the best one we have had for quite a long time. Add Shaw and Gundogan (if MVG does not recover) and there is no limit to what our very young squad can accomplish.

[didierforever 7,349]

Just to remind everyone who seems to have forgotten some key facts.

Diego Costa has 41 goals & 14 assists in his last three seasons in La Liga, and for one of those he was not even playing as a striker. For another, he was playing in Rayo which is not exactly a top team. He has also scored and provided assists (and had some of his better games) against teams likes Real, Barcelona or Sociedad in the league. In CL he has scored against Porto and Milan (and others), teams that might not be the absolute elite but that are still worth mentioning.

Torres has scored 43 goals and given 23 assists in his last 3 season playing in a much more difficult league and against teams who normally tend to park the bus against us

[1chelsea 864]

I've been really watching him because I wasn't sure if he would fit our system, so I was keeping a close eye on him in Athletico games to see his movement and passing...etc and here is what I deduced after that tactical analysis:

What a cunt!

what I don't get is we all know he is a cunt but do u like the cunt deduce that

[Rekin 835]

Torres has scored 43 goals and given 23 assists in his last 3 season playing in a much more difficult league and against teams who normally tend to park the bus against us

Did you actually bother reading what I wrote?

Torres had been through a major injury, had been a first choice striker for one of the best teams in the league, was older and also much more expensive. He also relied on completely different attributes than Costa.

I tried to angle my post in a way that would dissuade anyone from making comparisons to Torres but I guess there is always someone...

[didierforever 7,349]

Did you actually bother reading what I wrote?

Torres had been through a major injury, had been a first choice striker for one of the best teams in the league, was older and also much more expensive. He also relied on completely different attributes than Costa.

I tried to angle my post in a way that would dissuade anyone from making comparisons to Torres but I guess there is always someone...

Yes, I did read your post where u start by reminding everyone about costa's wonderful stats. But the point is that stats can be heavily misleading. Stats can't account for the difference in league, difference in style of play and even difference in class and level. Even lukaku scored 17 goals for wba last season before being shipped out on loan to everton. That is how useless stats can be somwtimes. Also my "comparision" to torres was SOLELY on your stats point. Infact that was the only part of your post I even quoted. So probably u need to understand better what people are tending to say.

Going to other parts of your post. Costa has "brute strength" but I honestly have never seen him use it. If anythin, he goes down far far far too easily under any contact. So how can his "physicality" even be a good point in his argumwnt as a chelsea striker is beyond me. His heading, workrate and definitely link up play simply is not as good as mandzukic while his finishing might be equal. So how is he better than mandzukic.

As for his comparison with cavani, please don't even go there. Not even close.

[Rekin 835]

Yes, I did read your post where u start by reminding everyone about costa's wonderful stats. But the point is that stats can be heavily misleading. Stats can't account for the difference in league, difference in style of play and even difference in class and level. Even lukaku scored 17 goals for wba last season before being shipped out on loan to everton. That is how useless stats can be somwtimes. Also my "comparision" to torres was SOLELY on your stats point. Infact that was the only part of your post I even quoted. So probably u need to understand better what people are tending to say.

Going to other parts of your post. Costa has "brute strength" but I honestly have never seen him use it. If anythin, he goes down far far far too easily under any contact. So how can his "physicality" even be a good point in his argumwnt as a chelsea striker is beyond me. His heading, workrate and definitely link up play simply is not as good as mandzukic while his finishing might be equal. So how is he better than mandzukic.

As for his comparison with cavani, please don't even go there. Not even close.

You really need to work on your analytical skill. Your arguments seem more based on a perceived dislike on Costa than anything else, for they are not very accurate.

First of all, the stats of Costa are if anything better than they appear. In difference to Torres who was the star striker of Liverpool which was a top team, Costa has not even played a full season as a first choice striker in a team challenging for the top. Instead, he played one full season in Rayo, which is a rather poor team, and one season as a wide player in support of Falcao.

You could compare that to a Torres playing one of those seasons in Stoke, and another as a wide forward.

In terms of his brute strength, you really need to follow a few more of his games. If you claim to do so and yet still keep saying that you have never seen him use it than I honestly do not know what to tell you. Just watch any random youtube compilation of his goals and you will see how he is often powering through two defenders thanks to his strength as much as anything before he scores. See how he at corners just mangles the ball in even though he has a stronger defender next to himself.

In the last game against Real he also got through the defence more than once through a combination of technique and strength.

In terms of a comparison to Mandzukic, I would say that they are close in terms of where they are right now, but I prefer Costa as I feel that he makes a mark on most games while the earlier goes missing during periods of time. Besides, Mandzukic plays in a much better team which is always making it easier to show of your good sides. When you play with virtuosos such as Muller, Ribery, Robben or Kroos it is much easier to provide good link-up play. Costa have good players on his team as well, but nowhere the level of those from Bayern.

When it comes to Cavani it is again you who fail to understand what I wrote. It was never a straight up comparison between players, but between the prices of the two.

Cavani is the better player in my opinion, but he is likely to cost close to the double. I do not rate him as twice as good as Costa.

Just so summarize, Costa has shown himself to have the attributes to succeed. That you have missed his physical strength does in no way mean that it is not there. His stats (which are a part of the analysis required when considering a player) are very good. His workrate is excellent.

I feel that I have made myself clear, if you disagree than do so, but you have provided little evidence to support your case. Referring to what "might happen" or what "happened to another purchase" that evidently had different circumstances is not good enough.

You might ask what evidence I have presented. The answer is that his stats are available in many places, and that you can see the real thing every week. His performance on the pitch is supporting my conclusion, not yours.

[Rmpr 8,977]

And if Costa is such average striker why did both Spain and Brazil fight for him?

Spain really didnt fight for Costa, they only did it so Brazil couldnt have him!

And Brazil only wanted Costa because our striker options are absolutely horrible. Even mighty England has better strikers than us, it's pathetic!

[didierforever 7,349]

You really need to work on your analytical skill. Your arguments seem more based on a perceived dislike on Costa than anything else, for they are not very accurate.

First of all, the stats of Costa are if anything better than they appear. In difference to Torres who was the star striker of Liverpool which was a top team, Costa has not even played a full season as a first choice striker in a team challenging for the top. Instead, he played one full season in Rayo, which is a rather poor team, and one season as a wide player in support of Falcao.

You could compare that to a Torres playing one of those seasons in Stoke, and another as a wide forward.

In terms of his brute strength, you really need to follow a few more of his games. If you claim to do so and yet still keep saying that you have never seen him use it than I honestly do not know what to tell you. Just watch any random youtube compilation of his goals and you will see how he is often powering through two defenders thanks to his strength as much as anything before he scores. See how he at corners just mangles the ball in even though he has a stronger defender next to himself.

In the last game against Real he also got through the defence more than once through a combination of technique and strength.

In terms of a comparison to Mandzukic, I would say that they are close in terms of where they are right now, but I prefer Costa as I feel that he makes a mark on most games while the earlier goes missing during periods of time. Besides, Mandzukic plays in a much better team which is always making it easier to show of your good sides. When you play with virtuosos such as Muller, Ribery, Robben or Kroos it is much easier to provide good link-up play. Costa have good players on his team as well, but nowhere the level of those from Bayern.

When it comes to Cavani it is again you who fail to understand what I wrote. It was never a straight up comparison between players, but between the prices of the two.

Cavani is the better player in my opinion, but he is likely to cost close to the double. I do not rate him as twice as good as Costa.

Just so summarize, Costa has shown himself to have the attributes to succeed. That you have missed his physical strength does in no way mean that it is not there. His stats (which are a part of the analysis required when considering a player) are very good. His workrate is excellent.

I feel that I have made myself clear, if you disagree than do so, but you have provided little evidence to support your case. Referring to what "might happen" or what "happened to another purchase" that evidently had different circumstances is not good enough.

You might ask what evidence I have presented. The answer is that his stats are available in many places, and that you can see the real thing every week. His performance on the pitch is supporting my conclusion, not yours.

Oh dear god!!!

First of all what performance??? This year he has had what a 4 goals in 10 odd matches. He started the season with a bang and with the villa injury and now ATM thenselvrs going off the boil, it seems so has he.

Also please do tell me how his stats are BETTER. Playing in la liga where SOLDADO scored 25 goals last season is bettet than playing for chelsea in PL? Before u give your nonsensical argument of torres being a top striker in a top club, I would like to point out that ATM n chelsea both finiahed 3rd in their respective leagues. And if u think that its not fair to costa cos he played last season as a winger due to falcao then pleaee don't bring up those stats cos wr had a striker who playef wide, scored goals but then sold him too to buy BA. So how exactly is costa's stats better.

Also watch yiutube compilations. Seriously!!! I saw one the other day which made mikel look like messi. Costa might be strong but he prefers to go down rather easily than put his physicality to use. Anyone who disputes that needs to watch him closely. Infact lets see the match thus weekend and see exactly how many times he would just fall over while trying to hold up the ball.

Eden, oscar, schurrle and willian PROVED themselves to be as good as ribery, muller, robben. Infact in the coming years these guys will only get better ans better and might very well be better than the bayern trio. Bayern played a very similar style to what we are playing now. 4-2-3-1, high pressing, high energy, system. Mandzukic has already shown that he is a GREAT fit for that system.

What evidence??? Costa has had 1 good season as a CF. one!!!! Even benteke has probably had more (LOL). He is a good striker but no where near the level u r hyping him up to be.

[The Skipper 20,593]

Also please do tell me how his stats are BETTER. Playing in la liga where SOLDADO scored 25 goals last season is bettet than playing for chelsea in PL?

That is a really poor argument.

Aguero, Torres (when he joined Liverpool), Negredo is all I'll say.

[didierforever 7,349]

That is a really poor argument.

Aguero, Torres (when he joined Liverpool), Negredo is all I'll say.

No it's not. Specially when u compare ATM to stoke. Think how awesome other la liga clubs must be.