The Skipper 20,609 Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 He's looking a lot leaner than when he came back next season. Good stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybrid Angel 2,130 Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 I literally don't have a clue where he will fit into Conte's plans this coming season. Nuski 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Colored Sky 1,807 Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 Cesc is by far the smartest player in our squad. Probably one of the few truly intelligent players around. He can actually say something thoughtful. Next captain IMO. Igi26, Barbara, Last Sicarius and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccg 1,528 Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 On ‎22‎/‎07‎/‎2016 at 10:55 AM, Hybrid Angel said: I literally don't have a clue where he will fit into Conte's plans this coming season. Can see Mr.Conte probly not this season but next playing 3 at the back giving us a extra midfield slot alas giving Fab a position or do something like he did with Pirlo+Juve if he feels that is the right way to go, if not it might be goodbye, 4 Fabregas is all the about the passes+assists but defending is a liability to the team and can't see him lasting long in a midfield 2 ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,903 Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 Still just have vivid memories of De Bruyne just breezing through our midfield over and over again last season when they smoked us. At least against the very best teams like City he absolutely cannot play in a midfield 2. Really, against any side that plays with more than 2 in the center we should think very carefully about playing Cesc. The Chels and mccg 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybrid Angel 2,130 Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 Can't believe I'm saying this, but I would much much rather have Oscar in a midfield two than Cesc. Cesc can put in a tackle here and there but he lacks athleticism and ability to resist pressure by taking a quick touch away and driving forward which is what we're going to need from our midfielders. He is such a limited midfielder and imo he will never work in a midfield two. Not someone we can rely on when it comes to transitioning between defence and attack. Essien19 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nono 791 Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 Just now, Hybrid Angel said: Can't believe I'm saying this, but I would much much rather have Oscar in a midfield two than Cesc. Cesc can put in a tackle here and there but he lacks athleticism and ability to resist pressure by taking a quick touch away and driving forward which is what we're going to need from our midfielders. He is such a limited midfielder and imo he will never work in a midfield two. Not someone we can rely on when it comes to transitioning between defence and attack.  Fabregas is the only midfielder who can pass in our team. He is crucial to keep moving the ball around. He was our best player until the tackle. mccg 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybrid Angel 2,130 Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 3 minutes ago, nono said:  Fabregas is the only midfielder who can pass in our team. He is crucial to keep moving the ball around. He was our best player until the tackle. No one doubts that but he is not dynamic or athletic enough to play in a midfield two. Don't wanna imagine the horror against any decent pressing team. kellzfresh and mccg 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheIceMan 596 Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 My MOTM! mccg 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El P. 1,354 Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 We need to force 4-2-4 with Fabregas and Kante on pivot. Imagine if that works out... Also, I think we need to transition to something like 4-3-2-1 (4-5-1) in defense (we all know Hazard won't track back that much): --------------  * defense * ----------------- ----- Willian - Fabregas - Kante ----- - second-striker ------------------------- ------------------------------------ Hazard - ----------------- Costa ---------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccg 1,528 Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 16 hours ago, Pizy said: Still just have vivid memories of De Bruyne just breezing through our midfield over and over again last season when they smoked us. At least against the very best teams like City he absolutely cannot play in a midfield 2. Really, against any side that plays with more than 2 in the center we should think very carefully about playing Cesc. Yeah agree m8, the way round that is have 2 dm and then Fabregas in front of them , my way of thinking is either Conte will try a Juve/Pirlo system with him or he will be benched(maybe he can improve him?!) , can see not this season but nxt having Zouma<Christensen>Koulibaly as a proper back 3 and having the extra man for midfield Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif 6,006 Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 Why not just copy Juve's 4-3-3 regista lineup? Put Fabregas in the Pirlo hole in front of the defenders, then have 2 midfield destroyers in front of him, Kante + Friend, just like Vidal & Marchisio were the legs that protected the slow geezer with impeccable passing (exactly our own scenario). The crucial player would be whoever partners Kante & protects Fabregas, because he needs to defend for the latter and make up for the lack of passing ability in the former.*Â Our usual Hazard/Willian wings + a striker who's actually motivated every game, boom, not the best on paper but perhaps the best on the field. *On paper Oscar fills this role perfectly. On an actual field however, he does not. So it won't be him. Fabregas has no right to play any farther forward with his lack of legs, and he has no right playing in just a 2-man midfield with his lack of agility coupled with his priority to look out passes instead of intercepting them. He simply needs to be in a 3 man midfield and i think it'd work best how Juve did things. MefiX19 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionjack 7,531 Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 Juventus want Fabregas? Earl opens, the Bianconeri we think Matic first choice, Chelsea have other ideas and "offers" Cesc http://www.tuttosport.com/news/calcio/serie-a/juventus/calciomercato/2016/08/12-14294829/juventus_vuoi_fabregas_conte_apre_i_bianconeri_ci_pensano/ I cant see it. I know hes not the fastest or most defensive minded but must be our most creative. He needs time and spoace to do his shit so a N'Golo-Matic/Chalobah with Cescy playing deep would work great me thinks. mccg 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlesJuve 264 Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 35 minutes ago, Unionjack said: Juventus want Fabregas? Earl opens, the Bianconeri we think Matic first choice, Chelsea have other ideas and "offers" Cesc http://www.tuttosport.com/news/calcio/serie-a/juventus/calciomercato/2016/08/12-14294829/juventus_vuoi_fabregas_conte_apre_i_bianconeri_ci_pensano/ I cant see it. I know hes not the fastest or most defensive minded but must be our most creative. He needs time and spoace to do his shit so a N'Golo-Matic/Chalobah with Cescy playing deep would work great me thinks. Tuttosport is universally recognized in Italy as a newspaper of invented news Conte will use in my opinion a 4-3-3 with Kante-Matic-Fabregas and Oscar/Cuadrado-Costa-Hazard.Your strength is the attack Conte will do everything to keep the ball away from area with the poor defense that you have Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionjack 7,531 Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 7 minutes ago, AlesJuve said: Tuttosport is universally recognized in Italy as a newspaper of invented news Like 95% of the UK media then yeah I agree with him keeping the ball away from the defence. Must be why hes so insistant to keep Matic and still looking for amother CDM|. Till Zoumas fit and we get another CB our back spine and our whole defence is shoddy. So unless we have a 3 CM they will just attack wide or over them instead of thru them. 13 minutes ago, AlesJuve said: Conte will use in my opinion a 4-3-3 with Kante-Matic-Fabregas and Oscar/Cuadrado-Costa-Hazard. You forget Chalobah. I have alot of faith this lad will go far. (But I also said this about Traore and Kenedy so my word means shite lol) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,570 Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 Antonio Conte has convinced Nemanja Matic to stay at #Chelsea and has instead offered Cesc Fabregas to former club Juventus. [Tuttosport] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mak 4,459 Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 He's always been a half a season player and last season we didn't even get that. Offers no energy or defensive attributes to make up for his dips in 'creative' form, making him practically useless for half a season every year. I wouldn't be sad if he left. DDA and Styles 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 9,938 Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 18 hours ago, The Mak said: He's always been a half a season player and last season we didn't even get that. Offers no energy or defensive attributes to make up for his dips in 'creative' form, making him practically useless for half a season every year. I wouldn't be sad if he left. ? The Mak 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccg 1,528 Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 Juve can go fucki, no Bonucci Juve can go fucki, Pogba to utd was shitti Juve can go fucki...Why even think bothering with these Cfcunts,Don't think we even got a thanks for lending them Cuadrado lol. Unionjack 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sideshow Luiz 2,310 Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 I'm okay with Cesc. http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/666766/Cesc-Fabregas-Accused-Sparking-Chelsea-Tottenham-Brawl-Guus-Hiddink-Premier-League-News As far as ability goes, I think he could be Pirlo-like if we surround him with 2 beasts live Juve did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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