xPetrCechx 13,571 Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 Effective tactics and great defensive displays.without a great game from cesc... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DYC. 7,542 Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 Even Pirlo can get overrun if you stick somebody close to him all the time.Of course. But it remains the area of the pitch for him to influence a game the most when the tempo is high or midfield is crowded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oscar 441 Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 Can't blame Cesc.The team was setup for him to fail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
termninja 5,290 Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 Cesc is a player who depends a lot on the movement of our players, and the movement of our players was very close to awful. Take movement away and Cesc is just a little stronger Mata. mediator 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 Of course. But it remains the area of the pitch for him to influence a game the most when the tempo is high or midfield is crowded.Yes but Fabregas and Pirlo aren't exactly the same type of player, are they? The former won't shine as a deep lying playmaker, he's better at getting forward, linking up the play and creating chances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
!Hazard! 3,394 Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 Needs to be benched. You cannot have players like this in a team like CFC not expecting any consequences for bad game. He needs competition and yet we don't have another creative CM at all! I wish we could steal that Kovasic deal from Real Madrid.But I definitely agree about the lack of movement in our play. It was beyond static today. Zidane would have looked like Cleverley today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DYC. 7,542 Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 Yes but Fabregas and Pirlo aren't exactly the same type of player, are they? The former won't shine as a deep lying playmaker, he's better at getting forward, linking up the play and creating chances.Again, it was an alternative for big games. Fabregas doesn't shine in his natural role, doesn't shine at #10. In fact, he struggles. So I suggested something new.At least his long range passing would come to better use, as well as his ability to start up attacks. This midfield issue has to resolved. We already know the midfield battle will be lost before it starts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stats 7,142 Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 without a great game from cesc...Arsenal at home he was fantastic though. Essien19 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iseah100 5,612 Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 Play him in the Pirlo role in big games or don't play him at all.So.. is that behind two defensive mids or what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DYC. 7,542 Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 So.. is that behind two defensive mids or what?I guess. Playing alongside hard-working/energetic midfielders.It's quite sad how the most influential midfielder has such issues. He did change the way Chelsea play(ed).Hard to bench Cesc in big games, one of the top earners and a high profile player, and expect him to smile and remain highly motivated to squash the lesser sides. I think this is why Mourinho ignores those performances as long as the results are good enough. But what happens when the results aren't good enough anymore? Essien19 and iseah100 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iseah100 5,612 Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 I guess. Playing alongside hard-working/energetic midfielders.It's quite sad how the most influential midfielder has such issues. He did change the way Chelsea play(ed).Hard to bench Cesc in big games, one of the top earners and high profile player, and expect him to smile and remain highly motivated to squash the lesser sides. I think this is why Mourinho ignores those performances as long as the results are good enough. But what happens when the results aren't good enough anymore?A player like Modric would have been better. Now he needs someone with an engine. Like Ramires 2.0. Jose should bench him for a big game though, to send a message. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oscar 441 Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 A player like Modric would have been better. Now he needs someone with an engine. Like Ramires 2.0. Jose should bench him for a big game though, to send a message.Like VIDAL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 I'm not a fan of Cesc to be honest. Think he is too lightweight for the position he's most comfortable with cm and lacks pace and directness for more advanced positions. Yes, you can accommodate him and make the team play for him but I just think he's not that decisive esp in big games.Regardless we do need another cm so Cesc can be used more adequately depending on situation. Chelsea? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Sicarius 610 Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 In one year Cesc just burned out? I dont think so but someone just told him that he will go on bench if he will play like today, weeke ago etc. I remember his magical crosses from last season <3 He is a genius but he must sshow his skills in match I hope his performances will be better and better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,054 Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 He has started the season terribly. If we actually had a solid backup; I would happily replace him until he returns to form. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625 Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 He has started the season terribly. If we actually had a solid backup; I would happily replace him until he returns to form.We could play colkett instead.And I'm only half kidding, the boy has always impressed me. iseah100 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky 739 Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 Seriously no more free kicks or crosses for Cesc. It's like he just lofts them high hoping for the best..I swear I could deliver better set pieces than this guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 Not sure what happened to his set pieces. They used to be amazing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kieran. 6,317 Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 Needs to be replaced. Doesn't fit the 4231 at all IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 i have been a massive detractor of oscar, cos of his consistency. hard to believe how a player can be so good for half a season and then so poor for the second half.but honestly, i never expected anything else from cesc.his problem is not his "consistency" or his technical limitations, his problem is and was and will always be that he is mr. NOBALLS.the match was lost within 30 seconds when MR. noballs was turned by silva like he did not even exist. people can blame GC or JT but the point is that silva and aguero are world class players. you allow them so much time and space to silva and he WILL rip you apart. that incident set how exactly the match was going to be. after that moment it was all down hill.what baffles me that there had been a time where we had played with a midfield of lamps-mikel-rambo or something and yet were at the fucking least COMPETITIVE. yesterday was a demolition. a disgrace. and a lot of blame lies on this guy. Essien19 and iseah100 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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