iseah100 5,612 Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 The way Barca play now, Cesc would have been a perfect fit for them. Totally agree. Martino was an idiot, this direct style they have Cesc would thrive in, imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625 Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 cesc did play alongside iniesta (and xavi and messi) but was nowhere near what rakitic has been.cesc has been good for us but needs to be more consistent.Wrong. Fabregas barely ever played actual CM for BAR. Usually he was on the RW or as a no 9 because there was no space in the team.He does need to be more consistent...but soe of the comparisons here are getting ridiculous. BlueLion. and Barbara 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,054 Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 Good performance so far from him. Goal and assist inside 30 mins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 barca changed there whole formation to give cesc a place in the mid. they even shifted iniesta to the wings (not cesc)they changed from a well settled 4-3-3 to a 3-4-3 cos whenever cesc got to play in the mid, he was simply not good enough. http://www.whoscored.com/Matches/592999/Live this was barca's formation when they played us and a lot of other times too. he did play thru the center and only cos he was poor as a CM or no where near barca level. whats worse is people saying that this barca style would have suited him. no it wont have. rakitic gives barca speed, dynamism and that quick passing. cesc can put a clinical pass but i think he is way behind rakitic in the other aspects.Wrong. Fabregas barely ever played actual CM for BAR. Usually he was on the RW or as a no 9 because there was no space in the team.He does need to be more consistent...but soe of the comparisons here are getting ridiculous. DYC. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! illmatic 901 Posted June 11, 2015 Popular Post! Share Posted June 11, 2015 For me:* Vision Cesc >>> Rakitic* General Passing Cesc >>> Rakitic* Key Passes Cesc >>>>>> Rakitic*Work Rate Rakitic >>> Cesc* Physical conditionRakitic >>> Cesc* Consistent Rakitic >>> Cesc * GoalCesc = RakiticSet Piece (Corner, Free Kicks)Cesc >> RakiticConclusion; Cesc has better conditions and is more talented, Rakitic is hard-work. Even, Rakitic this year for me, not was a creative player, he was more a physic man, almost like a B2B. The point is that Rakitic has a fucking little man playing in his team that builds game better that any pure creative midfielder, so, he don't have the responsobility to be the "Creative man" like Cesc here. But Rakitic to be the "Creative man" like Cesc, is 100 ways worst. stroey, zolayes, BlueLion. and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 The way Barca play now, Cesc would have been a perfect fit for them. They play intensive high pressing, lot of work and running. One of major weaknesess of Cesc who isnt mobile much.In everything else, yes he would suit them like a glove. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmode 113 Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 They play intensive high pressing, lot of work and running. One of major weaknesess of Cesc who isnt mobile much.In everything else, yes he would suit them like a glove.Cesc came to Chelsea, turned things around, and won the PL. Rakitic would never have that kind of influence in any other team than Barca or Real. He is playing behind Messi in God form and Neymar, Suarez. His main job is not to fuck up. He doesn't need to do anything special, but pass the ball to Messi or Iniesta. Cesc is 100 times more important to Chelsea and most other teams. Creativity, assists and goals wins you games. iseah100, stroey, Barbara and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 its like people have forgotten who we bought cesc from!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLion. 21,491 Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 its like people have forgotten who we bought cesc from!!!!But Cesc is an Arsenal player who went and played for Barcelona. He has Arsenal footballing DNA, not Barcelona footballing DNA. Regardless of the years he spent there as a kid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 But Cesc is an Arsenal player who went and played for Barcelona. He has Arsenal footballing DNA, not Barcelona footballing DNA. Regardless of the years he spent there as a kid. dont exactly know how that helps in the rakitic vs cesc debate.the way people are shooting down rakitic's acheivements this season simply cos "he has messi and iniesta" playing with him while not taking into consideration the fact that barca were actually the best team in the world when cesc went there and heads and shoulders above any of the other.team on the planet. last year barca went trophyless and this season they won the treble. now i am not saying that only cesc was responsible for barca's downfall or that only rakitic is responsible for barca's brilliant season, but it does have some relationship. rakitic has been awesome for barca while cesc never looked comfortable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,571 Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 Cesc Fà bregas30 mins · A year ago today Blue Armour 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 Scored 1 and made 1....Well done son. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLion. 21,491 Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 dont exactly know how that helps in the rakitic vs cesc debate.the way people are shooting down rakitic's acheivements this season simply cos "he has messi and iniesta" playing with him while not taking into consideration the fact that barca were actually the best team in the world when cesc went there and heads and shoulders above any of the other.team on the planet. last year barca went trophyless and this season they won the treble. now i am not saying that only cesc was responsible for barca's downfall or that only rakitic is responsible for barca's brilliant season, but it does have some relationship. rakitic has been awesome for barca while cesc never looked comfortable.I'm making a point in reference to your own. "People are forgetting who we bought Fabregas from". Yes, Barcelona. But he was never really a Barcelona player. He's a guy with Premier League footballing DNA. No wonder why he's had such an incredible impact for us and made next to none over in Spain. It would be like taking another excellent Premier League midfielder in Lampard or Gerrard and expecting either of them to adapt to tika-taka after years of Premier League football. It wouldn't work. DYC., Barbara and didierforever 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacquiao 1,834 Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 They play intensive high pressing, lot of work and running. One of major weaknesess of Cesc who isnt mobile much.In everything else, yes he would suit them like a glove.you obviously havent watched Barca play much this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DYC. 7,542 Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 dont exactly know how that helps in the rakitic vs cesc debate.the way people are shooting down rakitic's acheivements this season simply cos "he has messi and iniesta" playing with him while not taking into consideration the fact that barca were actually the best team in the world when cesc went there and heads and shoulders above any of the other.team on the planet. last year barca went trophyless and this season they won the treble. now i am not saying that only cesc was responsible for barca's downfall or that only rakitic is responsible for barca's brilliant season, but it does have some relationship. rakitic has been awesome for barca while cesc never looked comfortable.You're on a Chelsea forum, Cesc is always winning this.Agree with Alex. It's the same for Spain. He probably won't be a starter at EURO 2016, and I'm not mad at that.Rakitic is not a Barca midfielder either, but he was capable and willing to adapt to Barca and sacrifice his individual game for the sake of the team. Rakitic was the creative man at Sevilla so he's proven to be versatile. didierforever and BlueLion. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockwork 1,794 Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 Not sure why Ineista is still ranked so highly, he is nowhere the best midfielder in the world based on this past season. Rakitic was comfortably Barca best midfielder after Busquets. Pretty much Xavi and Ineista were on par this past season, but probably Ineista had a better season due to his late season surge.The most objective Barca supporters will tell you the biggest issue with Cesc was his performance in the 2nd half of the season. Just like this past season with Chelsea. iseah100 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 you obviously havent watched Barca play much this season.I didnt watch every game, but at least 20 in whole season. They do press high. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacquiao 1,834 Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 I didnt watch every game, but at least 20 in whole season. They do press high.not at such a high intensity like they used to under Pep, the front 3 press the ball sometimes backed up by Alves, Iniesta or Rakitic but if they dont win it back straight away then they drop off and invite their opponents on to them, so they can catch them on the counter attack, the way Barca pressed the ball this season is no different to how Chelsea pressed the ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 not at such a high intensity like they used to under Pep, the front 3 press the ball sometimes backed up by Alves, Iniesta or Rakitic but if they dont win it back straight away then they drop off and invite their opponents on to them, so they can catch them on the counter attack, the way Barca pressed the ball this season is no different to how Chelsea pressed the ball.True they dont press as much as under Pep but their tacticy vary nowdays. When they do press they press brilliantly and Rakitic is amazing at it.Cesc in barca would fail big time if he was given same role as Rakitic, because Cesc cant press high. He is not mobile enough and not that kind of player. Thats also reason why our mdfeld gets overrun against any better side. communicate 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyalBlues 4,050 Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 Don't know if its true or not, but has been retweet for a while now.Del Bosque on Fabregas: "He's gone from an average English side that come close to trophies to a great side where they win trophies." #CFC Muzchap 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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