Hazard and Mourinho up for FIFA awards

[didierforever 7,349]

Ofcourse it has to be about performance but the Ballon Dor is more about personal performance! in difference to the Player of the year in Europe (Ribery won and desreved) Mata is more of a team player than Hazard. Hazard alone can do greater things than Mata. Messi scored 64 goals last season when Ribery only scored 16.

so u wont take into account the league messi plays in (LOL liga) where even soldado had what 30-odd goals... a league where ribery anyways has 4 matches less to play plus about 3-4 matches less to play in the domestic league too???

messi's personal performance, this year, has been no where near ribery's.also goals are not the only criteria to judge them...

[Barbara 15,149]

Messi had his worst season in the last few years, I'm still not sure anyone stepped up to the point where they could have beat him.

[Weckerz 3,781]

So Hazard gets nominated and instead of being proud you start whining he shouldn't be in there and Mata is a better player. Wtf is going on with the comparisons and the degrading of our own players lately?

Fucking embarrasing you lot

[Stingray 9,441]

So Hazard gets nominated and instead of being proud you start whining he shouldn't be in there and Mata is a better player. Wtf is going on with the comparisons and the degrading of our own players lately?

Fucking embarrasing you lot

This. Always something to criticise and fret about ...

[Barbara 15,149]

I think the list is there for us to discuss it. I approve of Eden's nomination, but if discussing it was pointless, why create a topic? We could have mentioned in his thread.

People everywhere discuss those lists and show their opinion about players that should and shouldn't be there.

Let's not be blind fans... I'm sure all are happy for Hazard, but if they think another Chelsea player should be there or that Hazard shouldn't, it's their right to say so, and honestly, the discussion has been very, very, very civil.

So much for being opinion-less and blind by our team preferences...

[Weckerz 3,781]

I think the list is there for us to discuss it. I approve of Eden's nomination, but if discussing it was pointless, why create a topic? We could have mentioned in his thread.

People everywhere discuss those lists and show their opinion about players that should and shouldn't be there.

Let's not be blind fans... I'm sure all are happy for Hazard, but if they think another Chelsea player should be there or that Hazard shouldn't, it's their right to say so, and honestly, the discussion has been very, very, very civil.

So much for being opinion-less and blind by our team preferences...

You have the right to discuss whatever you want, that doesn't change the fact I'm fed up with this trend of comparing x and y whenever possible.

That last sentence shows you miss my point btw. I'd be equally happy if Oscar, Mata or any other player was on that list. You know why? Because they wear blue.

I've noticed you seem to make everything a matter of bias when it comes to Belgian or Brazilian players. The sneaky little digs in a lot of your posts are unnecessary, Barbara.

[Stingray 9,441]

Because they wear blue.

:blue scalf:

[FabHazard 655]

heyneckes and messi all the way.....messi is the best footballer on earth

[haranr 485]

I have exactly the opposite opinion.

I think right now (or right then, as right now none of them are really at the top of their form) Mata was the best player and Hazard had a better season.

I said a few times I would have given the player of year to Hazard and not Mata. Mata is the best footballer between the two of them, but Hazard has a higher ceiling and I have no doubts he'll become a better player than Mata in a couple of years. But I really don't understand how someone can consider Hazard currently better than Mata as a footballer. Right now, as in October, Mata is having a dig in form, something Hazard has also been through this season and it's only now overcoming [just finished the scout for the match against City and his display was really appalling when you look his movement - both on attack and defense; his sloppy ball control in the second half, and his anonymity in the match, definitely one of his poorest displays this season, and I'll have numbers to back it up in a few]. So right now they're two great footballers far from their best form, but Mata is undoubtedly imo the best player this calendar year as a footballer. He's on his peak.

I believe Eden will be winning this award in 3-5 years from now or at least being a runner-up, but I don't think at this point of their careers that Hazard is a better player than Mata. He will be though as I don't see Mata even making the final three ever on his career. He's very good, but he's nowhere a top3 player in the world and I don't think his ceiling is much higher than other players who'll be competing with him, so that he'd close the gap in a few years. If anything I see the gap increasing.

Dribble- Hazard

Pace - Hazard

Finishing - Mata (not too great either.)

Shot technique- Hazard

Assists - Mata

Vision - Mata

Ball Control - Hazard

[haranr 485]

Hazard is CHELSEA'S BEST PLAYER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[zolayes 14,489]

neither Hazard nor Jose will make the final short list,,,

[kobematabryant 400]

Hazard is way better than Mata. Hazard is by far the best player we got..Mata is a benchwarmer...don't worry we'll use him for capital one cup games.

[kobematabryant 400]

I think Hazard well deserves to be on Ballon D'or list, I dont give a flying fuck what anyone has to say. Just look at Hazard's performance in the super cup, he single handedly raped Bayern Munich (champions of europe). If you are whining about a chelsea player being on the nomination list, then simply you're not a Chelsea fan.

[Billy. 2,742]

Ribery, Robben or Ibrahimović should win it

Hazard has no chance dont even know how he got in.

[hjperdeath 2,226]

I'd lost all hope in this competition after seeing Messi win it 4 times. This time though, there are some ghastly nominations. Not to forget that better players were left out.
Great to see Hazard though, pity Mata isn't in there, but hey that's FIFA for you.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

neither Hazard nor Jose will make the final short list,,,

Well if you want to be unbiased, neither really deserve to be even on this shortlist. But I'm happy that they are.

[NishC300 1,865]

If Hazard is there then Mata definitely deserves to be there!

[Atlas Lion 1,223]

Not disregarding Hazard's contributions for the club last season at all, but I find it incredibly laughable the fact he has made the shortlist whilst Mata's incredible contributions last season are nothing more than a whisper to Uefa officials.

20 goals, 36 assists in all competitions. PFA player of the season final nominee. Chelsea player of the season 2 years running.

Un Fucking Believable.

[Barbara 15,149]

You have the right to discuss whatever you want, that doesn't change the fact I'm fed up with this trend of comparing x and y whenever possible.

That last sentence shows you miss my point btw. I'd be equally happy if Oscar, Mata or any other player was on that list. You know why? Because they wear blue.

I've noticed you seem to make everything a matter of bias when it comes to Belgian or Brazilian players. The sneaky little digs in a lot of your posts are unnecessary, Barbara.

little digs at Belgians, really, Weckerz? lol forever at how pressed you guys are around here these days.

So every player and opinion I've criticized the last days which include Cahill, Luiz, Azpilicueta, Lampard, comparisons between Mata and Lampard were little digs at Belgians? I had tons of post in the last seven days and I guess 3 or 4 involved belgian players. Give me a break!!!!

Today I've talked about two Belgians, and while I was defending Eden's nomination, repeating what I said a few times: that he deserved to win POY imo and it's okay to be there, there was a comparison being done by other people, I didn't start it, and I gave my opinion... As for de Bruyne, my notifications tell me a few people agree with me, because guess what, I didn't say anything beyond the obvious (not saying it's true, just saying it's obvious).

Unnecessary is to say what you said, that's what is unnecessary. I don't care if you Belgians feel pressed here these days because every week there are people compalining about your how it's impossible to say a bad word about a Belgian player without having exactly this kind of reaction. It's reactions like this that make us think like we do. I'm sorry if you skipped all the other bad things (and all the good things) I've said about players only this week and decided to react when I said a minor thing about Hazard [if anything a Mata fanboy would be much more offended by my post, but this probably is about other posts, as you even said in your answer. Only in the last two days 3 people (Alex, Fernando and YouNameIt) complimented my style of posting, I'll stick with them, not only because they're the majority, but because they aren't pressed.

If people want to think Mata deserved the nomination better than Hazard did, it's their right. Stop being dramatic, nobody killed your puppy.

And whoever missed the point here was you. What I meant is exactly that, the posts weren't about being happy or not just because they're Chelsea players. Do you really think anyone is upset because Chelsea player was nominated? If I thought Hazard didn't deserve to be in the list and none other player by us, I would have said that. THAT'S THE POINT. We can be happy for Chelsea players, but we can look beyond our club preferences and fanboyism and say for example none of our players deserved (which isn't the case). Or at least we should.

Now go back to your little world where I take digs on Belgians players. I won't bother to answer you - or anyone from the same little world again because many people already said the same, why keep repeating it like a broken record. Just think that posts like yours is exactly what make people think the obvious. Not me, I already have an opinion about it, your post didn't change it, I was just surprised that someone who's normally so levelheaded it's now behaving like so many others.

Cheers, mate. Good lucky for you, Hazard, Kevin, Lukaku and Courtois.

ps.: I'm wondering if you'll answer to everyone who's disagree with Hazard being ahead of Mata, or if the problem was only me. Never mind answering. It's crystal clear.

[tapa 11]

Hazard >>>>>>>>>> Mata