Willian

[Joker10 946]

AND what does that suggest????

Don't play a player that Likes to to cut in on his strong foot at a position where he can't do that.

[zolayes 14,489]

thanks that explains EVERYTHING .. why we play a RB at LB and a CB at RB .. in the old days Rt footers played on the right and Left footers played on the left .

It seemed to worked well

[WNDS 502]

How about that then? In a game in which Willian didn't have to play as auxiliary RB and defer to Ivan (or in this case Danilo) on every occasion, he was able to produce a great performance against a side of real quality. People can argue that Willian's problems in attack are 'nothing' to do with Mourinho's tactics/instructions and everything to do with the player's own deficiencies, but the way in which he has been playing (and producing) for Brazil under Dunga provides a strong argument to the contrary as the sample size begins to grow larger.

[nyikolajevics 2,690]

. in the old days Rt footers played on the right and Left footers played on the left .

Jeez that would be too mainstream.. Too simple. Too effective.

Not to mention that Zouma played as DM and Fábregas is slowly becoming a DM too

[zolayes 14,489]

Jeez that would be too mainstream.. Too simple. Too effective.

Not to mention that Zouma played as DM and Fábregas is slowly becoming a DM too

[zolayes 14,489]

Players were numbered 2 to 11 .. keepers wore green jerseys and caps .. a Chelsea Keeper had his cap blown into the goal .. went to pick up it up still carrying the ball

[BlueLyon 9,359]

I certainly dont point out Willian is suddenly world class winger or sth, but its clear as day that Mourinho is sole reason why Willian, salah, schurrle, cuadrado show so little in our time, creativity wise.

His instructions are killing our attack and no one can prove it otherway. He kills the spirit in players and forces them to concentrate on what Rb does instead of what Rw does. Or they will get benched.

Hazard is one that Mou gives alot of freedom, and he excells at that. If other attackers would have it, our attack would be much more fluid.

I think too many sessions go for tactical defending and positioning instead of trying some attacking actions.

But thats not it. Our attackers have to cover up for defenders shit they make and it costs us alot. Mourinho has to work more on defense and offense for next season IMO.

Thats why its kinda pointless to keep signing right wingers because everyone will be instructed the same and it will kill all the creativity in them. I guess even if we bought Messi, Mourinho would told him to play as secondary RB, him or hazard.

[WNDS 502]

I certainly dont point out Willian is suddenly world class winger or sth, but its clear as day that Mourinho is sole reason why Willian, salah, schurrle, cuadrado show so little in our time, creativity wise.

His instructions are killing our attack and no one can prove it otherway. He kills the spirit in players and forces them to concentrate on what Rb does instead of what Rw does. Or they will get benched.

Hazard is one that Mou gives alot of freedom, and he excells at that. If other attackers would have it, our attack would be much more fluid.

I think too many sessions go for tactical defending and positioning instead of trying some attacking actions.

But thats not it. Our attackers have to cover up for defenders shit they make and it costs us alot. Mourinho has to work more on defense and offense for next season IMO.

Thats why its kinda pointless to keep signing right wingers because everyone will be instructed the same and it will kill all the creativity in them. I guess even if we bought Messi, Mourinho would told him to play as secondary RB, him or hazard.

Exactly. As you (and others) have been noting, it honestly doesn't look as if Mourinho has the squad practicing/rehearsing attacking moves at all. Against France, Brazil's attacking play was slick, controlled, and effective, 'despite' having Oscar and Willian occupying two of the four attacking positions; to listen to some posters on Chelsea forums, you would think that such attacking play should be impossible for a team that deploys both of these players simultaneously.

Willian's performances for Brazil are particularly notable, because he is producing end-product fairly consistently (2 goals and 3 assists in 7 games) whilst also contributing well defensively. Dunga has managed to strike the correct balance with Willian and Danilo (the RB) on the right flank, and 'strangely' enough, it DOESN'T involve Danilo (a more natural attacking full-back than Ivanovic) bombing forward at every opportunity; Willian is very much the player responsible for the majority of the attacking play down that right-hand side. The effects of having an increased amount of attacking freedom (and defensive security behind him) are obvious; Willian attempts to dribble more frequently, displays more of a willingness to attempt through balls, and even makes occasional off-the-ball runs in behind opposition back-lines. At first I thought that these performances of Willian's were simply 'one-offs', but he is continuing to produce them quite consistently when playing for Brazil, irrespective of the form he has been showing at club level.

In short, both Oscar and Willian are receiving proper coaching for their attacking play in the Brazil NT, and it is allowing them to display something closer to their full attacking potential; they are NOT 'world-class' attacking players, but they are not as far from being so as you would think from watching their attacking contributions for Chelsea.

[Special Juan 28,106]

Thought he was decent last night, looked sharp and took some good corners

[Reddish-Blue 2,489]

I certainly dont point out Willian is suddenly world class winger or sth, but its clear as day that Mourinho is sole reason why Willian, salah, schurrle, cuadrado show so little in our time, creativity wise.

His instructions are killing our attack and no one can prove it otherway. He kills the spirit in players and forces them to concentrate on what Rb does instead of what Rw does. Or they will get benched.

Hazard is one that Mou gives alot of freedom, and he excells at that. If other attackers would have it, our attack would be much more fluid.

I think too many sessions go for tactical defending and positioning instead of trying some attacking actions.

But thats not it. Our attackers have to cover up for defenders shit they make and it costs us alot. Mourinho has to work more on defense and offense for next season IMO.

Thats why its kinda pointless to keep signing right wingers because everyone will be instructed the same and it will kill all the creativity in them. I guess even if we bought Messi, Mourinho would told him to play as secondary RB, him or hazard.

Unless we play Azpi at RB next season, it won't matter how much Mourinho works on the defense...he'll just let Ivanovic do anything he wants on the right wing and force Willian/Cuadrado to cover him

Hopefully those rumors of PSG, Bayern Munich being interested in Ivanovic are true....

[Sheva. 5,373]

How about that then? In a game in which Willian didn't have to play as auxiliary RB and defer to Ivan (or in this case Danilo) on every occasion, he was able to produce a great performance against a side of real quality. People can argue that Willian's problems in attack are 'nothing' to do with Mourinho's tactics/instructions and everything to do with the player's own deficiencies, but the way in which he has been playing (and producing) for Brazil under Dunga provides a strong argument to the contrary as the sample size begins to grow larger.

I watched the whole game and didn't notice much difference from his performances at Chelsea. With the exception of not defending every minute, for which i applaud Dunga's system and selection.

Back to Willian; even the 2nd goal he assisted was a 'normal' Willian pass, in which he ignores runners through the middle on the counter and slides the ball wide to Hazard.

[DYC. 7,542]

I watched the whole game and didn't notice much difference from his performances at Chelsea. With the exception of not defending every minute, for which i applaud Dunga's system and selection.

Back to Willian; even the 2nd goal he assisted was a 'normal' Willian pass, in which he ignores runners through the middle on the counter and slides the ball wide to Hazard.

I agree. This was pretty much regular Willian. Very quiet in the first half, became more involved in the 2nd, though not enough to actually say he greatly influenced the game. Neymar showed his class scoring from that position after the Willian pass. Gustavo was completely unmarked to head in Willian's corner.

Danilo didn't need Willian to shadow him though. That set up on the right flank with Willian and Ivanovic is so bizarre.

[Gilvorak 3,734]

In what world was he great? He was easily the worst of all the Brazilians, good assist for Neymar's goal but it was a standard pass and Neymar made it look much better than it actually was. Then he assisted from a corner and suddenly it's a great performance. It was a standard Willian game

He was non-existent in general play and left Oscar/Luis to do all the work in building up.

[Sir Mikel OBE 4,920]

In what world was he great? He was easily the worst of all the Brazilians, good assist for Neymar's goal but it was a standard pass and Neymar made it look much better than it actually was. Then he assisted from a corner and suddenly it's a great performance. It was a standard Willian game

He was non-existent in general play and left Oscar/Luis to do all the work in building up.

A standard willian game where he almost equaled his total assists for the league in one match?

Not standard at all.

[Oscar 441]

Difference Danilo vs Ivan.