🇧🇷 Willian

[Barbara 15,149]

Barbara - do you think that Mou would be willing to try out Oscar in the pivot? That would solve the problem with Mata not playing. On the other hand we would still need some defending I guess.

I don't think it passes through Mou's mind that in order to keep both him and Mata in the team, he'd have to move Oscar to the pivot, so Mata can be the CAM and have one of our wingers in the right wing. I don't think Mata is rated too highly with Mourinho - until he proves otherwise in the pitch (something Oscar already did), so I don't see him moving Oscar so deep because of Mata. If Mourinho decides Mata is better as an AM than Oscar I guess he'd be benched rather than go to the pivot. In addition to the reasons I'm about to explain to you, there's also the fact that it seems that Ramires-Lamps is untouchable under Mourinho for as long as Lamps can play.

There's one thing Mourinho absolutely loves in his players: his defenders being capable of distributing and what he calls 'building' and his attacking players to defend. Based on that I guess we'd never see Luiz in the DM or Oscar in the pivot except for injury issues or during a match when he's ran out of subs. Mourinho prefers a CB that can do the transition and distribute well rather than make this player a DM because it's sort of part of the job description of the DM position to have a good pass, so why waste a CB that has a 'plus' compared to others and make him look trivial or mediocre or just another guy in a position where that's normal?

The same applies to the attack. Why would he move one of his men attacking to the pivot and be average there - as players in the pivot are supposed to have good defensive skills, if he can have a guy with something else in the attack and that can offer him a sudden attack by tackling or intercepting the ball high in the pitch? He's said it many times in the past and since he arrived here, although he didn't touch the Oscar possibility - because nobody asked - he already made it clear that Luiz is a CB in his team and end of the story. The reasoning behind his choice is exactly the one I babbled presented to you. He does the same reasoning with attacking players - I'm trying to force my memory and see if I can remember someone he refused to do that in RM or Inter, but right now the closest case I can remember is Modric, but that's a bad example for many reasons (that we may talk about if you want) one of them being many people consider Modric more a midfielder than an attacking midfielder (I don't).

But I won't deny it's a possibility. I'm not sold at the idea though. Right now I'd say play him as an AM or don't play him at all, but to be completely sure of that I would need (all of us actually, I suppose) to see him playing there a few matches in a row. Felipão may play him there tomorrow - supposing he plays in the first place - as in the training session he was injured he was playing in the pivot.

[DanishBlue 426]

Thanks for the answer I think you are right in most of it which is a shame - I would really hate to leave either Oscar or Mata out of the starting eleven but I guess we will just have to get used to it :/

[pHaRaOn 2,131]

[Special Juan 28,783]

Cool.

[Tomo 21,751]

Thanks for the answer I think you are right in most of it which is a shame - I would really hate to leave either Oscar or Mata out of the starting eleven but I guess we will just have to get used to it :/

I think it's best tbh, as pleasing on the eye as the Mazacar are, we concede far too many goals when the play.

[Barbara 15,149]

I think it's best tbh, as pleasing on the eye as the Mazacar are, we concede far too many goals when the play.

I never made the connection between Mazacar and goals conceded. I'm not sure if it's only them because our backs had some shameful displays last season, but you may have a point. Thanks for pointing it out.

[OneMoSalah 9,108]

Not just Oscar, Hazard and Mata can be blamed for us shipping goals when they play together. Take into consideration how bad the pivot is sometimes, especially when Lampard played there next to Ramires and Mikel was missing from the team in general. Also Luiz's nativity and lack of positional sense in the pivot was clear to see in some games.

[Barbara 15,149]

conceding goals last season all I remember is Ivan against Swansea. nuff said

[OneMoSalah 9,108]

conceding goals last season all I remember is Ivan against Swansea. nuff said

In the Carling Cup? Yeah he had a shocker that night haha.

[Barbara 15,149]

In the Carling Cup? Yeah he had a shocker that night haha.

yep... the Cup match... I felt like literally banging my head on the wall.

[kellzfresh 7,229]

yep... the Cup match... I felt like literally banging my head on the wall.

I actually :banghead: after ivanovic did that

[BlueLion. 21,491]

I actually :banghead: after ivanovic did that

I forgave him.

[Jase 43,479]

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/chelsea-transfer-news-willian-says-2267825

Brazilian star Willian last night claimed he always wanted to go to Chelsea - because they are a “better club” than Tottenham.

Willian joined the Blues in a big money move from Shakhtar Donetsk after a last minute change of heart as he had already had a medical at Spurs.

But Willian, in an interview with Brazilian paper Globoesporte, said: “I always wanted to go to Chelsea. Chelsea presented an offer and it was always my dream to go there.

“Chelsea is a better club than Tottenham in every aspect. I have spoken with my fellow Brazilians at the club, especially David Luiz. I am also happy to play for Jose Mourinho. That was definitive in my decision.”

[CHOULO19 24,332]

Anyone else think he's been talking too much since he arrived? I mean he hasn't even played in a Chelsea shirt yet. He's overdoing it, imo. Needs to be quite and let his football do the talking.

[The Skipper 20,609]

Anyone else think he's been talking too much since he arrived? I mean he hasn't even played in a Chelsea shirt yet. He's overdoing it, imo. Needs to be quite and let his football do the talking.

How has he?

[OneMoSalah 9,108]

Anyone else think he's been talking too much since he arrived? I mean he hasn't even played in a Chelsea shirt yet. He's overdoing it, imo. Needs to be quite and let his football do the talking.

A bit.

Na its only Spurs, fuck Spurs.

[Yeboii 1,844]

Anyone else think he's been talking too much since he arrived? I mean he hasn't even played in a Chelsea shirt yet. He's overdoing it, imo. Needs to be quite and let his football do the talking.

If I would achieve something as prestigious as joining Chelsea in the Premier League I wouldnt stop talking about it either haha

[Barbara 15,149]

Anyone else think he's been talking too much since he arrived? I mean he hasn't even played in a Chelsea shirt yet. He's overdoing it, imo. Needs to be quite and let his football do the talking.

actually many of those quotes reported by different journos in England were all part of one interview for a Brazilian website. So actually he gave one interview for Chelsea TV and then another for Globo Esporte and that's it. From those two interviews many articles were written by many sites, taking different quotes at a time.

I don't see any exaggeration at all.

[meetdoscar 335]

For me, he can talk as much as he wants as long as he is in blue and for blue especially if it improves his english.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

actually many of those quotes reported by different journos in England were all part of one interview for a Brazilian website. So actually he gave one interview for Chelsea TV and then another for Globo Esporte and that's it. From those two interviews many articles were written by many sites, taking different quotes at a time.

I don't see any exaggeration at all.

Still, the "Chelsea is better than Tottenham in every aspect" is just rude and highly unprofessional.