Closed Bayern Munich v Chelsea

[Styles 9,790]

Kalouda

[BOSS 372]

Do u mind telling me what Schurrle offers as CF that Lukaku doesnt?

Absolutley stuipid. He was ready to score a hattrick against United with WBA, but not to face Bayern in a rather meaningless game. Oh the logic...

I rate Lukaku but the reason why i said he isn't ready for Bayern is because he hasn't started a single game. I really think you guys underrated Schürrle he did quite well vs United.

But Schurrle up front is?

People are really starting to overstate this "Lukaku isn't ready" thing.

Lukaku is a great player but i think he should have played more games to start vs Bayern. Did you really think Schürrle was bad vs United? If so please explain to me why he was bad.

Also, how is Essien capable of playing in the DP against Bayern?!

Lampard played 3 games in a row, as good as he is he still needs some rest imo.

[JayC 171]

Lukaku is a great player but i think he should have played more games to start vs Bayern. Did you really think Schürrle was bad vs United? If so please explain to me why he was bad.

He touched the ball only thirteen times in the first half. He was supposed to be used as a simple weapon to stretch our defence so Hazard could get into pockets of space. He was clueless at it and as a result we dominated possession and our defence was not stretched - we even pushed our full backs well forward and he could do nothing. He had no clue what he was doing and ended up being simply another line of defence. I was going to say it in Nish's analysis thread - but I'll say it here instead since I'm on it - Mourinho did not get it right - his tactics failed badly. You should hope he doesn't get it so wrong against Bayern.

[hjperdeath 2,226]

^ completely disagree . He was one of the main reasons along with the defense due to which United couldn't score.

[JayC 171]

^ completely disagree . He was one of the main reasons along with the defense due to which United couldn't score.

I know for a fact if you asked Mourinho in secrecy - did his tactics with Schurrle work, he'd tell you no. Watch the game again if you don't believe me.

[Pacquiao 1,834]

He touched the ball only thirteen times in the first half. He was supposed to be used as a simple weapon to stretch our defence so Hazard could get into pockets of space. He was clueless at it and as a result we dominated possession and our defence was not stretched - we even pushed our full backs well forward and he could do nothing. He had no clue what he was doing and ended up being simply another line of defence. I was going to say it in Nish's analysis thread - but I'll say it here instead since I'm on it - Mourinho did not get it right - his tactics failed badly. You should hope he doesn't get it so wrong against Bayern.

you are so delusional! LOOOL

Mourinho 1 Moyes 0

Enough Said.

[hjperdeath 2,226]

I know for a fact if you asked Mourinho in secrecy - did his tactics with Schurrle work, he'd tell you no. Watch the game again if you don't believe me.

Did watch the game. 10 times, 11, if you count only the second half. no one knows what Mourinho had in his mind. As you said Hazard to drop into pockets, could be far from correct. Schurrle doesn't need to do that. That's what a false 9 usually does. Just cause he's a midfielder, people tend to believe he is a false 9 cause he started in the #9 role. He did absolutely nothing a false 9 does. If there's anything about stretching defense done by Chelsea, then it was against Juventus. Hazard did to some extent, but we failed miserably. In the Bundesliga, whenever Schurrle's played as the forward, he's mainly used to disrupt play, especially in the flanks due to his immense work-rate. That's why he was chosen against United, to break down what happened on either flanks. If he was indeed used to stretch the defense, then it would be stretched inward, not towards the sides. However his action area's point to the opposite.

Welbeck and Evra had problems dealing with him on their left.

[BOSS 372]

He touched the ball only thirteen times in the first half. He was supposed to be used as a simple weapon to stretch our defence so Hazard could get into pockets of space. He was clueless at it and as a result we dominated possession and our defence was not stretched - we even pushed our full backs well forward and he could do nothing. He has no clue what he was doing and ended up being simply another line of defence. I was going to say it in Nish's analysis thread - but I'll say it here instead since I'm on it - Mourinho did not get it right - his tactics failed badly. You should hope he doesn't get it so wrong against Bayern.

The problem wasn't Schürrle it was the counterattacking moments that were ruined because we failed to make easy passes. Our pass to leave defensive areas was horrible.

The reason why Schürrle touched the ball only thirteen times is because he didn't get enough balls. You dominated possession because we failed to make easy passes.

Even Mourinho agrees with me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owASMH6NcxQ

Go to 1:33

So if basically any one of you disagree with me you disagree with the Special One

[JayC 171]

Did watch the game. 10 times, 11, if you count only the second half. no one knows what Mourinho had in his mind. As you said Hazard to drop into pockets, could be far from correct. Schurrle doesn't need to do that. That's what a false 9 usually does. Just cause he's a midfielder, people tend to believe he is a false 9 cause he started in the #9 role. He did absolutely nothing a false 9 does. If there's anything about stretching defense done by Chelsea, then it was against Juventus. Hazard did to some extent, but we failed miserably. In the Bundesliga, whenever Schurrle's played as the forward, he's mainly used to disrupt play, especially in the flanks due to his immense work-rate. That's why he was chosen against United, to break down what happened on either flanks. If he was indeed used to stretch the defense, then it would be stretched inward, not towards the sides. However his action area's point to the opposite.

Welbeck and Evra had problems dealing with him on their left.

With all due respect. I've been analyzing football a lot longer than you. You're wrong. I've said my piece, you yours. Let's leave it at that - people can make their own mind up.

[hjperdeath 2,226]

With all due respect. I've been analyzing football a lot longer than you. You're wrong. I've said my piece, you yours. Let's leave it at that - people can make their own mind up.

And in my opinion, I've been analyzing for a much longer time.not just English, but multiple leagues at the same time. You're wrong. You've said your piece, I've said mine. fine then, lets leave it at that.

[JayC 171]

you are so delusional! LOOOL

Mourinho 1 Moyes 0

Enough Said.

What the fuck are you doing?

Pointless poster number three. Why do these people never make a point?

List: Bushman, Kojo, Pacquiao.

"hahha Oh lol"

;/

[zolayes 14,489]

I know for a fact if you asked Mourinho in secrecy - did his tactics with Schurrle work, he'd tell you no. Watch the game again if you don't believe me.

you know for a FACT ,,,,what a bullshit statement that is ,,,That is just YOUR misguided RED eyed view.. like your match prediction of a Manure win

[JayC 171]

And in my opinion, I've been analyzing for a much longer time.not just English, but multiple leagues at the same time. You're wrong. You've said your piece, I've said mine. fine then, lets leave it at that.

No, you really haven't.

This simple tactic I pointed out is a Mourinho favourite - I think you'd know that, knowing more than me? Anyway yeah. I'm done with analyzing - people always think they know more than they actually do. It's why I hate discussing it - with anyone to be honest. No offence to you at all.

[BOSS 372]

What the fuck are you doing?

Pointless poster number three. Why do these people never make a point?

List: Bushman, Kojo, Pacquiao.

"hahha Oh lol"

;/

I just made a point check my post above ^

Y U NOT REPLY TO MY POST?

[Pacquiao 1,834]

What the fuck are you doing?

Pointless poster number three. Why do these people never make a point?

List: Bushman, Kojo, Pacquiao.

"hahha Oh lol"

;/

because i could pick holes in almost every point you make, the last time i made a point to you, you had no response and replied with 'I'll answer fair statements not tripe.'

enough said! All i know is Mourinho will make Moyes his B***h just like what he done with Fergie!

[hjperdeath 2,226]

No, you really haven't.

This simple tactic I pointed out is a Mourinho favourite - I think you'd know that, knowing more than me? Anyway yeah. I'm done with analyzing people always think they know more than they actually do. It's why I hate discussing it - with anyone to be honest. No offence to you at all.

I have been for 5 years now. 16 years old as of this date. Done part-time scouting for various low league clubs. Don't say something you don't know about.

That is Mourinho's favorite? WOW. So done. Definitely. People always think they know more than they actually do.

[georgecostea 6]

3-1 for us at finish

[JayC 171]

because i could pick holes in almost every point you make, the last time i made a point to you, you had no response and replied with 'I'll answer fair statements not tripe.'

enough said! All i know is Mourinho will make Moyes his B***h just like what he done with Fergie!

I'm not interested in talking to biased fans, with idiotic views. I quote and talk to people who's opinion I value. This is not you.

I have been for 5 years now. 16 years old as of this date. Done part-time scouting for various low league clubs. Don't say something you don't know about.

That is Mourinho's favorite? WOW. So done. Definitely. People always think they know more than they actually do.

At least 17 years less than me.

Oh and you should look into the simple 'stretching' tactic I mentioned. Ronaldo was used in it a lot under Mourinho.

[hjperdeath 2,226]

At least 17 years less than me.

Oh and you should look into the simple 'stretching' tactic I mentioned. Ronaldo was used in it a lot under Mourinho.

After telling that it's Mourinho's favorite , I barely think so.

And on the stretching tactic. Ronaldo plays on the wings, Schurrle played up front. While playing on the wings he cuts inside. if its Higuain or Benzema , they shift towards the right to avoid an overload. Ozil takes up the left, and Di Maria moves into the #10 area with full-backs pushing up in both sides. That's barely stretching. Mourinho has not once used the idea of having his forwards or in this case a winger drag away defenders to allow others to penetrate. Their tactics are built around, good movement, fast counter-attacks and perfect role-switching.

There is barely an stretching of opposition involved in their play.

[Kojo 4,676]

Rupert was banned for starting arguments about Benitez and Torres, however he never insulted anyone once he was clever.

Jay C has been starting arguments and derailing almost every thread, now he's having an argument about the United match in the Bayern vs Chelsea thread, and he has insulted people calling them idiots. Yet this guy doesn't even get a ban? Where the fuck is the logic in this, please do something here.