Marco van Ginkel

[Magic Lamps 11,677]

had a promising first half for milan vs lazio today. Very combative. Switched off for tactical reasons after they conceded 2 goals in 4 mins.

[BlueLion. 21,491]

Get him back in the squad. He can't be any worse than the other options we have right now.

[Daniel1980 1,425]

Get him back in the squad. He can't be any worse than the other options we have right now.

Not sure we need a player who can't stand out even in a below average Milan squad.

[BlueLion. 21,491]

Not sure we need a player who can't stand out even in a below average Milan squad.

He could have one leg and still be better than Mikel, let's be fair.

[Myself 793]

Not sure we need a player who can't stand out even in a below average Milan squad.

You mean a player who just came out of a serious injury and has played about 4 games all season.

Sell Mikel, promote MvG or Ake

[Daniel1980 1,425]

You mean a player who just came out of a serious injury and has played about 4 games all season.

Sell Mikel, promote MvG or Ake

I'd like to agree, but I've seen no evidence that MvG is ready to be promoted. He's 22 already--just a year younger than Oscar--and still barely has any experience and doesn't seem to have much confidence. I don't see MvG having any future at Chelsea unless he steps up and has a very good season at Milan. This is his chance. I hope he grabs it.

[nyikolajevics 2,599]

He could have one leg and still be better than Mikel, let's be fair.

Mikel is a tough DMF, Cornelius is a box-to-box, it's pointless to compare them.. MvG is more like Ramires. Anyway, he was crap today, seriously very weak.

[Reddish-Blue 2,370]

I'd like to agree, but I've seen no evidence that MvG is ready to be promoted. He's 22 already--just a year younger than Oscar--and still barely has any experience. I don't see MvG having any future at Chelsea unless he steps up and has a very good season at Milan. This is his chance. I hope he grabs it.

The Milan loan deal was pointless to begin with...he was basically the sweetener so that we could offload Torres...

He should have been loaned out to a club with a track record of developing/improving youngsters..like one of the Portugal clubs

[Jase 43,479]

I'd like to agree, but I've seen no evidence that MvG is ready to be promoted. He's 22 already--just a year younger than Oscar--and still barely has any experience and doesn't seem to have much confidence. I don't see MvG having any future at Chelsea unless he steps up and has a very good season at Milan. This is his chance. I hope he grabs it.

Should just cancel his loan deal with Milan and send him to somewhere he can develop. Milan are in a mess right now (no thanks to Galliani) and with Inzaghi being under pressure to achieve their targets this season (they haven't won a single league game in 2015), doubt he can afford to integrate young players into the first team when they desperately need the results on the pitch.

[DYC. 7,542]

He's not good enough. He was never good enough. He was never going to play, regardless of his injury. Too raw. People complain about Oscar, Van Ginkel's not even remotely close to his level. A move back to Holland would be best for his career. Ajax would be great if they're still interested. If not them, I'm sure Vitesse would love taking him back. I don't think he'll ever be good enough for this level. Maybe a team like Everton or even Tottenham in the future, depending on how he picks up.

But I'm sure the paycut will be hard to accept. Maybe he'll leave and play for the money. That's not bad either.

[The Mak 4,459]

He's not good enough. He was never good enough. He was never going to play, regardless of his injury. Too raw. People complain about Oscar, Van Ginkel's not even remotely close to his level. A move back to Holland would be best for his career. Ajax would be great if they're still interested. If not them, I'm sure Vitesse would love taking him back. I don't think he'll ever be good enough for this level. Maybe a team like Everton or even Tottenham in the future, depending on how picks up.

But I'm sure the paycut will be hard to accept. Maybe he'll leave and play for the money. That's not bad either.

Just like Matic wasn't good enough in 2011?

I would take MVG over Mikel any day of the week.

[LAM09 6,811]

Another player out on loan wasting away. Not sure what the board are doing in relation to this situation.

[DYC. 7,542]

Just like Matic wasn't good enough in 2011?

I would take MVG over Mikel any day of the week.

Matic was not good enough in 2011. I did like him though. He had a nonchalance in his game I liked, but that's not a good thing at such a level. He left and went on to develop, reaching a high level in a new position, changing his style and playing a completely different role. If you predicted Matic to do that back in 2011, I'd like to talk to you about the lottery and the stock market. I say I don't think he'll ever be good enough, but you can of course never predict these kind of things. That's the fun part about football.

I'd take a bunch of other players over Mikel. Not Van Ginkel, not at this stage in his career.

[Daniel1980 1,425]

Should just cancel his loan deal with Milan and send him to somewhere he can develop. Milan are in a mess right now (no thanks to Galliani) and with Inzaghi being under pressure to achieve their targets this season (they haven't won a single league game in 2015), doubt he can afford to integrate young players into the first team when they desperately need the results on the pitch.

Milan are actually a good team for him to develop. Milan's midfielders are very poor and if MvG is better than average, he'll be played because Milan and Pippo need the results on the pitch. Inzaghi started him against pretty good teams like Lazio and Udinese. If he wasn't so injury-prone, MvG would have gotten plenty of playing time at Milan. Regardless of Milan's current results, it's a club with a great history, so getting some playing time there will show how good MvG is at dealing with pressure. He just needs to do better and impress. So far, he hasn't impressed me at Milan. He's not Chelsea material (at least not yet).

I want an upgrade on Mikel and Ramires, but at least right now MvG isn't the answer.

[didierforever 7,349]

Did people watch the Lazio Milan game?? He was poor. The whole Milan team was poor. Got owned in the midfield through out the game. Grass is greener syndrome.

The way our midfield has been liable this season defensively, we don't need a second hand mid fielder, we have Rambo for the job. We need a first teamed like pogba to solve the problem.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

He's not good enough. He was never good enough. He was never going to play, regardless of his injury. Too raw. People complain about Oscar, Van Ginkel's not even remotely close to his level. A move back to Holland would be best for his career. Ajax would be great if they're still interested. If not them, I'm sure Vitesse would love taking him back. I don't think he'll ever be good enough for this level. Maybe a team like Everton or even Tottenham in the future, depending on how picks up.

But I'm sure the paycut will be hard to accept. Maybe he'll leave and play for the money. That's not bad either.

Brutal, but spot on.

[mccg 1,528]

Probly a loan to some prem team next season or he may catch Jose eye in pre season ,but again big decisions needed to name squad next season our slots nearly filled already, i would like another World Class Cm to go with Fabregas-Matic-Ramires...and have Baker-Rufus-Ake as young lions back up

[Waterfall 893]

Finally starting to get some consistent playing time, and it seems that he's impressed.