Marco van Ginkel

[Chelsea? 892]

Nice to see he ain't here to warm the bench, no way would Jose play him this much if that were his intended use of the kid.

[yuvala 2,167]

[lucio 5,418]

anyone know how he played for netherlands tonight?

[Duppy Conqueror 1,527]

All i know is they were winning 1-0 and Strootman scored.

Edited August 14, 2013 by Duppy Conqueror

[The Skipper 20,609]

anyone know how he played for netherlands tonight?

Played 45 mins in the second half.

[Spike 12,049]

THIS STARTED OUT AS PRAISE FOR VAN GINKEL BUT TURNED INTO A RANT. PROCEED AT OWN RISK.

He looks like a proper number 8 all action midfielder like Lampard, Gerrard, Ballack, Marchisio and Matthaus. Those are the type of players I think about when I think of the 'perfect midfielder'. Players that give 100% every match, that lead by example, that take the game by the scruff of the neck, that man-up and take penalties when they need to be scored. None of these poncey regista types that graze about passing the ball around like it's a hot potato. Xavi, Pirlo, Carrick, Schweinsteiger...all brilliant players in their own right but they can fuck right off as far as I'm concerned. They don't run around and kick people enough for my tastes.

That brings me back to Schweinsteiger. He isn't world class. He isn't a leader. A leader takes it for the team, the good and the bad. For instance in the CL against Chelsea, where was Bastian when it was penalty time? He let Robben walk all over him and waltz right up to the spot to take the personal glory. All Robben wanted was to be the guy that won the match. Bastian should have said fuck that, puffed out his chest and stamped his goddamn authority on the team. You think Lampard, Ballack or Gerrard would let a ponce like Robben walk all over them and demand the penalty? They would have told him to fuck off back to Holland while they smashed that ball into the top corner like a motherfucking leader of men.

[Heisenberg 1,824]

THIS STARTED OUT AS PRAISE FOR VAN GINKEL BUT TURNED INTO A RANT. PROCEED AT OWN RISK.

He looks like a proper number 8 all action midfielder like Lampard, Gerrard, Ballack, Marchisio and Matthaus. Those are the type of players I think about when I think of the 'perfect midfielder'. Players that give 100% every match, that lead by example, that take the game by the scruff of the neck, that man-up and take penalties when they need to be scored. None of these poncey regista types that graze about passing the ball around like it's a hot potato. Xavi, Pirlo, Carrick, Schweinsteiger...all brilliant players in their own right but they can fuck right off as far as I'm concerned. They don't run around and kick people enough for my tastes.

That brings me back to Schweinsteiger. He isn't world class. He isn't a leader. A leader takes it for the team, the good and the bad. For instance in the CL against Chelsea, where was Bastian when it was penalty time? He let Robben walk all over him and waltz right up to the spot to take the personal glory. All Robben wanted was to be the guy that won the match. Bastian should have said fuck that, puffed out his chest and stamped his goddamn authority on the team. You think Lampard, Ballack or Gerrard would let a ponce like Robben walk all over them and demand the penalty? They would have told him to fuck off back to Holland while they smashed that ball into the top corner like a motherfucking leader of men.

What do you expect from van Ginkel ? To be more agressive, to score important goals and be the new Lampard ? You dont find such players everywhere.Give him time he is too young to think as a leader.

[Spike 12,049]

What do you expect from van Ginkel ? To be more agressive, to score important goals and be the new Lampard ? You dont find such players everywhere.Give him time he is too young to think as a leader.

What are you talking about?

[The Skipper 20,609]

What do you expect from van Ginkel ? To be more agressive, to score important goals and be the new Lampard ? You dont find such players everywhere.Give him time he is too young to think as a leader.

He was talking about Schweinsteiger!

[Heisenberg 1,824]

He was talking about Schweinsteiger!

Wuuuuuuuuuuuuuut ?

I thought it was Marco van Ginkel thread, and when I saw "He looks like a proper number 8 all action midfielder like Lampard, Gerrard, Ballack, Marchisio and Matthaus"

I though it was about Marco, sorry @ I'll be more careful next time.

[DDA 9,924]

^ This is why I find it hard to post in here at the moment ^

Even the arguements are a complete mess!

I know it gets better after the season starts...just three more sleeps and it can't come soon enough.

[Jase 43,479]

He's a cross between Lampard and Gerrard and Dutchman Van Ginkel is looking to make a flying start at Chelsea

Mourinho also spoke about van Ginkel in the article and judging by his comments, sounds like he's going to play him a lot this season.

[Bir_CFC 3,455]

I really hope he does well. It'd be nice just to finally see a fresh face in the midfield. I had my doubts with him because the jump from the Eridivisie to PL is a huge one but his perfomance against Real was pleasantly surprising. Sure one match is never indicative of how he'll perform through the course of an entire season but it def got me excited about his role in the team.

[Vybz Kartel 1,613]

His played really well in pre season would be totally unfair if he does not start on Sunday with Rami, Lampard in my view is not yet fit enough to start

[BlueLyon 9,359]

He is way too young to be leader ala Lampard, Ballack etc, but at the moment Strootman is that guy in NT.

If we didnt want De Rossi, why we never made offer for Strootman instead? Ginkel still looks very raw and too young to lead midfield. He is not solution for our midfield this season (hope Im wrong)