Rmpr 8,977 Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 How do you know we haven't started looking at players in other positions? There could be moves in place that are dependent on other teams finishing their seasons, but also on where we finish the season.This deal might be nearer completion simply because it's one of the few deals that can be completed early, a bit like the Marin deal.As for the price, Man United signed a winger who has one England cap, no Premier League experience and no Champions League experience for a fee reported to be around £15 million. It's still a lot of money, but after the transfer deals our club has done in the last two years I'm kinda inclined to trust them on this one.I agree, but when they wanted to sign a winger they didnt go buying a stiker who cuts inside every freaking time... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blu35_army 551 Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 Mata is a good crosser. i always confuse,,why Di Matteo or even Rafa didn't try him as a pure winger.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 Mata is a good crosser. i always confuse,,why Di Matteo or even Rafa didn't try him as a pure winger....1. Mata is better through the middle.2. Mata does not have burning pace.3. Mata does not have the acceleration to constantly weave past his man like Hazard or Moses does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TorontoChelsea 4,064 Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 1. Mata is better through the middle.2. Mata does not have burning pace.3. Mata does not have the acceleration to constantly weave past his man like Hazard or Moses does.I would add:1) Even when Mata is played as a winger, he comes through the middle2) Mata is terrible defensively which is easier to deal with in the middle of the pitch. On the wings, it isolates the wingback too much.3) The middle is the most important offensive position in setting up the attack and Mata is our best player for that. Moving him to the wings would de-emphasize his role. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Severinb 309 Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 He is better than Sanchez. Alexis is shit this year very frustrated to watch. If Schurle could be on same level as Pedro, that would be brilliant and worth. But Schurle is very uncomplete winger. He cant cross realy and we need one winger to do that. This team has many uncomplete players. Mikel is too slow for dm, Rambo is technicaly too bad for CM, Mata is very weak, Oscar too, Azpi cant cross etc...I dont want another winger who is not that. If Schurle cant work with and for team, but only cut inside and shoot I dont realy see why we need him for the money. But on the other hand, how many wingers are available realy?How can you say schurrle is better than sanchez you must be blind. We wanted him for more than 30mil barca wanted him and about every other club! Schurrle does not even attrack that maney teams and he has not got the amount of skills sanchez has. Just because he has had a bad season at the best club in the world does not make a player who has had an ok to average season at leverkusen beter. And you will soon see that the constant shooting from schurrle will be frustating too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Williams 166 Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 Definitely don't love this signing, but it could be worse. We needed some quality depth in the winger department (only hazard and moses play well there).I was really hoping to get de bruyne back this season, I had visions of a 4-3-3 with ramires-oscar-de bruyne and mata-lukaku-hazard.Like that would ever happen anyway...But even with our 4-2-3-1, I think the team would be a lot better with de bruyne to cover all the AM (he could play on the left, right, or centre with no trouble) and then use the 22 million to put towards a really quality pivot player, like vidal quality or something close, or a towards CB or striker.I'm sure everyone else has said the same thing pretty much or at least thought it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndersonBLUE 819 Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 Bit gutted about this signing really, we need central midfielders not another attacking mid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santiago. 1,500 Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 Bit gutted about this signing really, we need central midfielders not another attacking mid.We need a striker who can be deployed out wide. He fits the bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndersonBLUE 819 Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 We need a striker who can be deployed out wide. He fits the billI know he can play a striker role, but he is more of an inside forward, maybe chelsea bought him to bulk up the squad - 6 men for the front 3 (Hazard, Mata, Oscar, Moses, Schurrle, Marin) but thought they would wait until a Manager came in at least Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santiago. 1,500 Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 I know he can play a striker role, but he is more of an inside forward, maybe chelsea bought him to bulk up the squad - 6 men for the front 3 (Hazard, Mata, Oscar, Moses, Schurrle, Marin) but thought they would wait until a Manager came in at leastI have my doubts that Marin will be here next season. Would rather we continue with Piazon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 How can you say schurrle is better than sanchez you must be blind. We wanted him for more than 30mil barca wanted him and about every other club! Schurrle does not even attrack that maney teams and he has not got the amount of skills sanchez has. Just because he has had a bad season at the best club in the world does not make a player who has had an ok to average season at leverkusen beter. And you will soon see that the constant shooting from schurrle will be frustating too!I meant for current season. Obviously Sanchez was better talent, but this season he was awful. Probably Barca doesnt suit him and he is doing bad because of it, but his play is frustrating like Moses. He does some tricks and flair but makes terrible decision in the end.And for our team Schurle would be better than Sanchez. How can you imagine us playing with Mata, Hazard and Sanchez who are all 1,70m? Its ridiculous we would be weakest team in PL. Because of that I would pick Schurle ahead of Sanchez, he had better season and fits team more. Also Sanchez is recovering from bad season, I want players who are confident to lead the team next year. Schurle is after all german, they will always put 110% in game. And if Mou realy comes, there is no doubt that he will order Schurle to do exactly what he expects from him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Fong 2,776 Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 Mata is a good crosser. i always confuse,,why Di Matteo or even Rafa didn't try him as a pure winger....I think simply because no one is better than Mata in the middle...not only in Chelsea, probably in EPL as a whole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backstreet09 499 Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 I have my doubts that Marin will be here next season. Would rather we continue with Piazon.Yeah man, what's with Piazon? He looked awesome in the pre-season, even scored a goal against AC Milan. He's an wonderful talent, would even keep him in the squad, but a premier league loan would be perfect for him to get games and continue his development in a pacy way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
English Freak 456 Posted April 20, 2013 Share Posted April 20, 2013 I meant for current season. Obviously Sanchez was better talent, but this season he was awful. Probably Barca doesnt suit him and he is doing bad because of it, but his play is frustrating like Moses. He does some tricks and flair but makes terrible decision in the end.And for our team Schurle would be better than Sanchez. How can you imagine us playing with Mata, Hazard and Sanchez who are all 1,70m? Its ridiculous we would be weakest team in PL. Because of that I would pick Schurle ahead of Sanchez, he had better season and fits team more. Also Sanchez is recovering from bad season, I want players who are confident to lead the team next year.Schurle is after all german, they will always put 110% in game. And if Mou realy comes, there is no doubt that he will order Schurle to do exactly what he expects from him.Sanchez just doesn't fit in at Barcelona, they don't play to his strengths.He hasn't been allowed to play his favoured RW position...where he has done well.Schurrle has had the better season because he plays in his favoured LW/LF position.I just think if you want a more explosive player out wide, go with Sanchez....but if you want a team player, go with Schurrle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted April 20, 2013 Share Posted April 20, 2013 Sanchez just doesn't fit in at Barcelona, they don't play to his strengths.He hasn't been allowed to play his favoured RW position...where he has done well.Schurrle has had the better season because he plays in his favoured LW/LF position.I just think if you want a more explosive player out wide, go with Sanchez....but if you want a team player, go with Schurrle.Sanchez's favoured position is in the hole (think Second Striker), where he played that one season for Udinese.A lot of people seem to think that since Sanchez is fast, very good at dribbling and has a high work rate that makes him a winger. He is not a proper winger. There is no such thing anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddish-Blue 2,507 Posted April 20, 2013 Share Posted April 20, 2013 Why? He gets more minutes in the lead up to a World Cup, in a team that will be in the Champions League.We get a winger/striker that we need and in a year's time we recall De Bruyne. In the meantime we use Mata and Oscar in the number 10 spot. Ideally we'd have all of these players around but this serves our immediate needs better and is a good use of resources over the long-term isn't it?I'm just worried that Dortmund might take KDB away from us...they've built a strong, young team...Damn....if only Watford can get promotion (assuming Zola stays as manager)...that way we could loan out De Bruyne in the EPL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted April 20, 2013 Share Posted April 20, 2013 If only Mertens would be bigger player, I would take him in a heart beat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted April 20, 2013 Share Posted April 20, 2013 If only Mertens would be bigger player, I would take him in a heart beat.He is very tenacious though, that sort of makes up for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted April 20, 2013 Share Posted April 20, 2013 Mata is a good crosser. i always confuse,,why Di Matteo or even Rafa didn't try him as a pure winger....Dude, AVB already tried that, and he sucked there. Mata is an old school n.10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted April 20, 2013 Share Posted April 20, 2013 About the topic's subject, whats the point of this signing? I thought Moses and Marin were enough... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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