Leif 6,006 Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 @,Before I reply - How many games of his have you watched? Not being a dick, genuinely curious. Just like he may have made a good impression on you in 1 game Cavani likely made a bad impression on many vs. Spain. I just need to know so I can gauge how to reply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDY 1,290 Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 Wasn't Romeu the fulcrum of the Spanish side before his injury?Illara is obviously a good player but you simply can't ignore the system he's playing, the players supporting him and the quality of the opposition he's facing.Lets see how he performs in the upcoming CL before crowning him the next Busquets/Redondo or whatever.That was Javi Martinez in the tournament where Mata was named MVP.We are not talking about just this tournament, but his season for Real Sociedad, where is role was different to that for Spain. But I agree, I'd like to see how he fairs in the CL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 Wasn't Romeu the fulcrum of the Spanish side before his injury?Illara is obviously a good player but you simply can't ignore the system he's playing, the players supporting him and the quality of the opposition he's facing.Lets see how he performs in the upcoming CL before crowning him the next Busquets/Redondo or whatever.No. Romeu has played like 5 times for the Spanish u21s. Romeu is an actual holding MF player as well in comparison to Illaramendi who is not. @,Before I reply - How many games of his have you watched? Not being a dick, genuinely curious. Just like he may have made a good impression on you in 1 game Cavani likely made a bad impression on many vs. Spain. I just need to know so I can gauge how to reply.I watched the Spanish u21s games he participated in the Under 21s European Championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilvorak 3,734 Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 @,Before I reply - How many games of his have you watched? Not being a dick, genuinely curious. Just like he may have made a good impression on you in 1 game Cavani likely made a bad impression on many vs. Spain. I just need to know so I can gauge how to reply.That's actually an excellent point so many posters are quick to point out you shouldn't judge a struggling player on a couple of games at International level but then go on to claim a player is the best thing since Yeezus based on a 4/5 game tournament. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilvorak 3,734 Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 That was Javi Martinez in the tournament where Mata was named MVP.We are not talking about just this tournament, but his season for Real Sociedad, where is role was different to that for Spain. But I agree, I'd like to see how he fairs in the CL.I know that lol.Alot can change in a couple of months in football but I'm almost certain Romeu was first choice for Spain before his injury. I could be wrong though.Anyway, this is a pointless argument/debate. We won't sign him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LukakutoStamford 779 Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 massively overrated player not worth his release clause Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif 6,006 Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 I watched the Spanish u21s games he participated in the Under 21s European Championship. So you've only seen him play in probably the best U21 team in history and not his club games against top opposition yet.That U21 team would make Marin look like the German Messi he was tipped by some fools to be originally and make Moses literally look like the original Moses and score without even touching the ball.It has to be added that had Romeu not suffered his injury he would have been playing ahead of Asier no doubt or splitting the playing time 50-50 at most. Romeu was an absolute wall for the U21 side when he was playing.Why concern ourselves with the back-up option to who was the original starting-option for the U21 side before his injury? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 So you've only seen him play in probably the best U21 team in history and not his club games against top opposition yet.That U21 team would make Marin look like the German Messi he was tipped by some fools to be originally and make Moses literally look like the original Moses and score without even touching the ball.It has to be added that had Romeu not suffered his injury he would have been playing ahead of Asier no doubt or splitting the playing time 50-50 at most. Romeu was an absolute wall for the U21 side when he was playing.Why concern ourselves with the back-up option to who was the original starting-option for the U21 side before his injury?I hardly doubt Romeu would have started if he was fit, hes not even better than Malaga's Camacho who never even started at DM. The fact the U21s played without a natural DM player just shows that they obviously rate Illaramendi better than Camacho (who is a better player than Romeu).How can you even say Romeu was a wall for the U21s? hes played 10 times and I'm pretty sure he was used as a center back as opposed to a holding MF a few times. He didn't even start a lot of those games either, Javi Martinez played ahead of him when he was eligible for the U21s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucio 5,418 Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 romeu was great for spain u20 in the same world cup oscar starred in. but im pretty certain camacho would of gone ahead of him even if he was fit. camacho is a fine player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christo191 173 Posted June 23, 2013 Share Posted June 23, 2013 More news from L'Equipe as Arsenal are interested in signing Asier Illarramendi of Real Sociedad. The club asking for €12m -W. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucio 5,418 Posted June 23, 2013 Share Posted June 23, 2013 More news from L'Equipe as Arsenal are interested in signing Asier Illarramendi of Real Sociedad. The club asking for €12m -W.would be a bargain for that price Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christo191 173 Posted June 23, 2013 Share Posted June 23, 2013 for Arsenal! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zinedine Iniesco 172 Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 The kid has a release clause of around 30 million i believe, but he could very well be worth almost every cent.You have a young much more mobile Xabi Alonso type player.Watching Busquets and Illaramendi in the spanish NT will be orgasmic.DLP's are my favorite players, their tactical nous, their defensive ability, and their long balls are what id like to have been able to do if i were a professional footballer lol.Pirlo,Sahin,Alonso, Illaramendi, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toli 977 Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 The kid has a release clause of around 30 million i believe, but he could very well be worth almost every cent.You have a young much more mobile Xabi Alonso type player.Watching Busquets and Illaramendi in the spanish NT will be orgasmic.DLP's are my favorite players, their tactical nous, their defensive ability, and their long balls are what id like to have been able to do if i were a professional footballer lol.Pirlo,Sahin,Alonso, Illaramendi, etc.illaramendi is not really a DLP. and he isnt playing that for Real Sociedad neither. he is more a DM/B2B for Real Sociedad but not a DLP....also he is definelty no long-range passer. so comparisons between xabi and him are non-existable. he is a good player though, but no "next xabi"- because he plays different than him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zinedine Iniesco 172 Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 WRONG.Look I've seen that you really have problems with defining Player Roles.You have even come to call Modric a DM lol.You have to get your facts straight.Illaramendi first of all is not a DM. He doesn't have the complete traits or abilities a (DM!) Has so please do not call him this.A DM is a Makalele, Lassana Diarra, De Rossi, THESE ARE DM'S.He is not a B2B either, just because you see him progress forwards along the pitch sometimes doesnt mean hes a B2B.He has NOTHING of a B2B, specially not the mobility.A B2B is Yaya Toure, Khedira(he doesnt either but this is what he is, a jack of all trades master of none, and he should not be playing for a Top Club as a starter, this guys is irrelevant), Paulinho.http://www.whoscored.com/Players/87094http://www.whoscored.com/Players/4961(edit) ( Also who scored can sometimes be a bit simplistic about their terms when looking at the positioning map, if it refers to Alonso as a defensive midfielder it does so because he has defensive capabilities, it also adds that he is a centre midfielder, who scored its a good website but it doesnt coin the correct terms, they dont make the contextual errors that you do though. )Please compare every bit of statistic. He is a CDM with DLP Capabilities such as Alonso.Time and Time you have tried to argument with me about many things like about Di Maria, Khedira, Isco, Modric, and Now IllarramendiI appreciate the wanting to discuss, but you are horribly wrong each and every time, and never bother to reply with any valid or resourceful arguments.So get your facts straight before you try to argument with me as you never start correctly, and make tremendous mistakes.Learn your player roles too.Modric a DM?Illarramendi a DM/B2B?Illarramendi not a long range passer? Dear lord now.Ill even give you some videos so that you educate your self about the individual capabilities he posseses.I suggest you never try to argument with me or anyone about tactics as you could confuse others that just want to read others opinions. I have no idea what it is you watch when trying to talk about players. Calling Modric a DM is like saying Ferrari makes jet fighters. Its horribly wrong lol. i cant take you seriously if you make arguments the way you do, and i say this because you try to reply against what i say, and its laughably wrong each and every time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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