Asier Illaramendi

[Gilvorak 3,734]

Not good enough for us IMO. Better players out there.

Is he even better than Romeu?

[Leif 6,006]

Linked with him.

We've been 'linked' with Gomez, Dzeko, Falcao, Cavani, Rooney, Lewandowski, Aspas, Higuain and Jovetic just this year though and it's not really a link when it's just posted as a rumour to garner views for a newspaper who make the majority of their stories up.

In the exact same position as Asier Real Madrid have also been 'linked' with Benat, Vidal, Pogba, Kondogbia, Toure etc. and just signed Modric not long ago.

[OneMoSalah 8,783]

We've been 'linked' with Gomez, Dzeko, Falcao, Cavani, Rooney, Lewandowski, Aspas, Higuain and Jovetic just this year though and it's not really a link when it's just posted as a rumour to garner views for a newspaper who make the majority of their stories up.

In the exact same position as Asier Real Madrid have also been 'linked' with Benat, Vidal, Pogba, Kondogbia, Toure etc. and just signed Modric not long ago.

Well anyway. Lets just say that Illaramendi is a quality player and if he moves on this summer big clubs will want him. (Madrid, Arsenal, Chelsea, etc.)

[JDY 1,290]

Well it is a forum after all which is all about opinions. Just because you disagree doesn't mean you're correct.

I backed literally every single stat up

Or perhaps you're massively suppressing?

- I didn't say I was correct, I just disagreed with you, like you disagreed with me.

- Yes, backed up without context. Comparing him to players who are playing in different roles this season (the only fair comparison based on his season with Sociedad was Khedira). He was not playing as a DLP for Sociedad, but showed potential that he could have the right attributes to be a good one (which he demonstrated with Spain with his style akin to Busquets/Carrick). Some of the stats were also wrong.

- Maybe I am, but I'm only calling it as I see it, just like you are. Like I said, clearly we have been watching a different player, because our opinions couldn't be more different.

[OneMoSalah 8,783]

Anyway Leif, your post you put up there......

Having the technique to pass well is one thing. Having the brain to pass well is a whole other and more important thing.

Well that is odd because I'd say he was the glue in that Spanish U21's team, he was always making himself available and playing passes at the right time, dribbling at the right time, timing when to pass and when not to pass well etc. I'm pretty sure thats using his brain isn't it?

He doesn't think ahead. His football brain is naive and young. He doesn't think "I should tackle this player with this technique". It's just "Tackle him" like he's a cyborg.

What the fuck?

No offence but that is a ridiculous statement on its own. When you tackle someone you don't think about the technique, you think about trying to get the ball.... not where is the ball going to go or will they get the ball back... you just try and get the ball... sure some players tackle someone and the ball goes to their team mate but I have serious doubts they do the tackle knowing their team mate will get the ball. Name me one player who intentionally tackles someone so their team mate gets the ball from the tackle?

[Gilvorak 3,734]

Wasn't Romeu the fulcrum of the Spanish side before his injury?

Illara is obviously a good player but you simply can't ignore the system he's playing, the players supporting him and the quality of the opposition he's facing.

Lets see how he performs in the upcoming CL before crowning him the next Busquets/Redondo or whatever.

[Leif 6,006]

@,

Before I reply - How many games of his have you watched? Not being a dick, genuinely curious. Just like he may have made a good impression on you in 1 game Cavani likely made a bad impression on many vs. Spain. I just need to know so I can gauge how to reply.

[JDY 1,290]

Wasn't Romeu the fulcrum of the Spanish side before his injury?

Illara is obviously a good player but you simply can't ignore the system he's playing, the players supporting him and the quality of the opposition he's facing.

Lets see how he performs in the upcoming CL before crowning him the next Busquets/Redondo or whatever.

That was Javi Martinez in the tournament where Mata was named MVP.

We are not talking about just this tournament, but his season for Real Sociedad, where is role was different to that for Spain. But I agree, I'd like to see how he fairs in the CL.

[OneMoSalah 8,783]

Wasn't Romeu the fulcrum of the Spanish side before his injury?

Illara is obviously a good player but you simply can't ignore the system he's playing, the players supporting him and the quality of the opposition he's facing.

Lets see how he performs in the upcoming CL before crowning him the next Busquets/Redondo or whatever.

No. Romeu has played like 5 times for the Spanish u21s. Romeu is an actual holding MF player as well in comparison to Illaramendi who is not.

@,

Before I reply - How many games of his have you watched? Not being a dick, genuinely curious. Just like he may have made a good impression on you in 1 game Cavani likely made a bad impression on many vs. Spain. I just need to know so I can gauge how to reply.

I watched the Spanish u21s games he participated in the Under 21s European Championship.

[Gilvorak 3,734]

@,

Before I reply - How many games of his have you watched? Not being a dick, genuinely curious. Just like he may have made a good impression on you in 1 game Cavani likely made a bad impression on many vs. Spain. I just need to know so I can gauge how to reply.

That's actually an excellent point so many posters are quick to point out you shouldn't judge a struggling player on a couple of games at International level but then go on to claim a player is the best thing since Yeezus based on a 4/5 game tournament.

[Gilvorak 3,734]

That was Javi Martinez in the tournament where Mata was named MVP.

We are not talking about just this tournament, but his season for Real Sociedad, where is role was different to that for Spain. But I agree, I'd like to see how he fairs in the CL.

I know that lol.

Alot can change in a couple of months in football but I'm almost certain Romeu was first choice for Spain before his injury. I could be wrong though.

Anyway, this is a pointless argument/debate. We won't sign him.

[LukakutoStamford 779]

massively overrated player not worth his release clause

[Leif 6,006]

I watched the Spanish u21s games he participated in the Under 21s European Championship.

So you've only seen him play in probably the best U21 team in history and not his club games against top opposition yet.

That U21 team would make Marin look like the German Messi he was tipped by some fools to be originally and make Moses literally look like the original Moses and score without even touching the ball.

It has to be added that had Romeu not suffered his injury he would have been playing ahead of Asier no doubt or splitting the playing time 50-50 at most. Romeu was an absolute wall for the U21 side when he was playing.

Why concern ourselves with the back-up option to who was the original starting-option for the U21 side before his injury?

[OneMoSalah 8,783]

So you've only seen him play in probably the best U21 team in history and not his club games against top opposition yet.

That U21 team would make Marin look like the German Messi he was tipped by some fools to be originally and make Moses literally look like the original Moses and score without even touching the ball.

It has to be added that had Romeu not suffered his injury he would have been playing ahead of Asier no doubt or splitting the playing time 50-50 at most. Romeu was an absolute wall for the U21 side when he was playing.

Why concern ourselves with the back-up option to who was the original starting-option for the U21 side before his injury?

I hardly doubt Romeu would have started if he was fit, hes not even better than Malaga's Camacho who never even started at DM. The fact the U21s played without a natural DM player just shows that they obviously rate Illaramendi better than Camacho (who is a better player than Romeu).

How can you even say Romeu was a wall for the U21s? hes played 10 times and I'm pretty sure he was used as a center back as opposed to a holding MF a few times. He didn't even start a lot of those games either, Javi Martinez played ahead of him when he was eligible for the U21s.

[lucio 5,418]

romeu was great for spain u20 in the same world cup oscar starred in. but im pretty certain camacho would of gone ahead of him even if he was fit. camacho is a fine player.

[Christo191 173]

More news from L'Equipe as Arsenal are interested in signing Asier Illarramendi of Real Sociedad. The club asking for €12m -W.

[lucio 5,418]

More news from L'Equipe as Arsenal are interested in signing Asier Illarramendi of Real Sociedad. The club asking for €12m -W.

would be a bargain for that price

[Christo191 173]

for Arsenal!