Leif 6,006 Posted June 8, 2013 Share Posted June 8, 2013 Just because other say different things from one another, or rather say something different from you, you just jumped the gun and accused these people of not watching the player?! Well "lazy" to "hard working player" is quite a gulf so it's only normal to assume one of them doesn't watch the player.It's like someone who mainly follows Serie A saying "Hazard isn't good at dribbling" and then the next Serie A follower saying "Hazard is very good at dribbling and tricking opponents." Wouldn't you assume the first person clearly doesn't watch Hazard, or at least, doesn't watch enough to make a decent opinion from what they've seen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeboii 1,844 Posted June 8, 2013 Share Posted June 8, 2013 This is why i hate transfer window. Cunt he is, injured my ballack.I would love it if he had injured a rival player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted June 8, 2013 Share Posted June 8, 2013 I'm laughing at how people think he offers nothing but stamina and pace... He was a beast as a number 10 when he had Ibra and Robinho with him. You don't play number 10 if all you offer is "stamina" and "pace".This is what I'm thinking! Isn't he a really talented no10? Or are people holding a grudge because of Ballack? Lmao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif 6,006 Posted June 8, 2013 Share Posted June 8, 2013 Chalobah + Ake = Ball winning players with decent distribution who sit in front of the defence with very occasional runs forward. Not the best finishers, but Chalobah is known to take accurate pops at goal every now and then.KPB = A player who now mainly plays behind the striker while liking to track back and take accurate long shots at goal. When deployed in a deeper, more 'central midfield' role, he can become a 'destroyer' type player who while not the best tackler, will one way or another win the ball back. Incredibly strong, aggressive and often reckless, he could be described as a shit De Rossi in this role but it works. Think Roy Keane actually. That's what he's like when he's central. His passing is underrated and if nurtured could be a genuine candidate for the 'playmaker' some of us want.Mata = A silky player who's now known for efficiency in front of goal and splendid through-balls, flair, above average dribbling and incredible vision amongst the best in Europe. How are #1 and #3 being compared to #2? Regardless if he'd play in one of their positions or not, he's a completely different style of player to anyone we have in the squad currently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif 6,006 Posted June 8, 2013 Share Posted June 8, 2013 Not sure if posted or not but his agent is apparently in London today.Diamanti or Andrea Poli expected to replace him at Milan as they're trying to make the team more Italian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted June 8, 2013 Share Posted June 8, 2013 I know you don't judge players off YouTube videos but please, you can't tell me that an average player who offers only "stamina and pace" can score goals like these? He's got awesome technique. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif 6,006 Posted June 8, 2013 Share Posted June 8, 2013 Some quotes from an AC Milan forum. Boa plays good as an AM when he has someone with high creativity next to him... to play as a classic trequartista he needs to be the one with high creativity, which unfortunately he doesn't have.Boa has next to no vision. He's isn't a thru-ball playing CAM at all. He just uses his strength and unpredictability to get past defenders and shoot (usually into the third tier). If we keep him, he needs to go back to midfield permanently. If we sell him, then we should buy a proper CAM (Honda, Diamanti, Pastore, etc).Prince has been good for us. He has had his moments of awesome and events with us. Will remember him fondly.Had he not have so much injuries in 11/12 we would have seen the best out of him then, he will probably leave with his first season being the one remembered most fondly. I would like him to stay one more season and us throwing the fodder away. Some more creativity in our mid would have done Prince a lot of goodagree with LC though, dude needs to stay in midfield.The rest of quotes or posts on various Milan forums are a split between "I want him to stay for at least another season" and "Let's sell him because we need the money."I don't think any posts are saying they want to sell him just because they want him gone.Everyone on these forums though agree that if he's to play behind the striker at times he needs creativity near him. Hazard on the wing is perfect for that, and I'm sure anyone we play in a deeper role will have decent creativity too.That may not be a problem though if we were to put him in a deep midfield role to start with which seems to be what Milan fans wish Allegri would do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yasser 63 Posted June 8, 2013 Share Posted June 8, 2013 @Number10RoleJose Mourinho: "KP Boateng to Chelsea? We want footballers, not models. Last year he had more haircuts than goals scored." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted June 8, 2013 Share Posted June 8, 2013 Are you describing Prince or Ramires? Might want to read what I said after that...Why the hell are people comparing KPB to Ake? What am I missing here? It's like comparing Romeu to Mata. Ridiculous.Not comparing here. It's the fact that if KPB comes here, he will take up one of the midfield space which Ake can operate in. Having him for CAM will just be nonsensical as well when we've got options there already. It's about him taking unnecessary place in the squad when others can fill in.Well "lazy" to "hard working player" is quite a gulf so it's only normal to assume one of them doesn't watch the player.It's like someone who mainly follows Serie A saying "Hazard isn't good at dribbling" and then the next Serie A follower saying "Hazard is very good at dribbling and tricking opponents." Wouldn't you assume the first person clearly doesn't watch Hazard, or at least, doesn't watch enough to make a decent opinion from what they've seen?Different people made different opinions. Don't go all categorizing everyone into one group. I know you don't judge players off YouTube videos but please, you can't tell me that an average player who offers only "stamina and pace" can score goals like these? He's got awesome technique. So, we are suddenly buying players because they can score the odd screamers and all that? Still doesn't take away the fact his main assets are his stamina and pace. As for your point that he excelled in the No.10 behind Ibrahimovic and Robinho, he didn't exactly achieve that on his own merit. It helps when you have someone like Ibrahimovic upfront doing most of the damage and making him look good. KPB is by no means an out-and-out No.10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif 6,006 Posted June 8, 2013 Share Posted June 8, 2013 One thing not being mentioned much: He's a good leader. I don't mean a 'leader' like Lampard or Terry who are 'nice' on the pitch etc. But he's a 'cunt leader' like Roy Keane (again using this example since they share a few traits) who'll keep his team motivated with or without the armband. It's something we're missing. His 'fuck up the opposition if they dare tackle you hard' mentality will rub off on players, and sure, he'll get a few red cards probably during his time here, but I miss that passion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted June 8, 2013 Share Posted June 8, 2013 @Number10RoleJose Mourinho: "KP Boateng to Chelsea? We want footballers, not models. Last year he had more haircuts than goals scored."I doubt that is a a real quote. Likely to just be another fabricated on Twitter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif 6,006 Posted June 8, 2013 Share Posted June 8, 2013 Err is that Mourinho quote real? It'd seem odd if he's already been asked about Boateng. I don't remember any PC's being held with him involved since the Boateng rumour was announced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif 6,006 Posted June 8, 2013 Share Posted June 8, 2013 Still doesn't take away the fact his main assets are his stamina and pace. Were they not Essien's main assets in his prime? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted June 8, 2013 Share Posted June 8, 2013 KPB is technically weak? I mean he hasn't had the best of seasons last year but to say he's technically weak is something else. On his day he's very clearly one of the best in the Serie A in my opinion.Like I said I don't want him here because we don't need him in our squad but he's world class on his day. I agree he's inconsistent but to say he's just a decent player is massively underrating him.I can literally count on one hand the 'world-class' performances he;s put in as a player. He's incredibly over-hyped for those 4-5 world class performance, especially the ones vs Barca. Yes he's technically weak, meaning he doesn't have great technique in his passing, shooting, tackling..etc .He's so inconsistent that even when fit, he often doesn't make the starting XI of Milan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted June 8, 2013 Share Posted June 8, 2013 So, we are suddenly buying players because they can score the odd screamers and all that? Still doesn't take away the fact his main assets are his stamina and pace. As for your point that he excelled in the No.10 behind Ibrahimovic and Robinho, he didn't exactly achieve that on his own merit. It helps when you have someone like Ibrahimovic upfront doing most of the damage and making him look good. KPB is by no means an out-and-out No.10.If you read my previous posts I actually explain there's no need for him in our squad. I'm just arguing against people saying he's just an average player or poor technically. He's not a traditional number 10, certainly wasn't when Zlatan and Robinho were there... He was more of a trequartista there. My point is - you can't just offer stamina or pace if you play in that role. You need to have good technical ability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif 6,006 Posted June 8, 2013 Share Posted June 8, 2013 I can literally count on one hand the 'world-class' performances he;s put in as a player. I can do the same for Mikel But that doesn't mean he shouldn't be in our squad based on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted June 8, 2013 Share Posted June 8, 2013 KPB would be very good for depth if we could sign him cheap. He's versatile to play anywhere in midfield to be honest, but he might not be content being a squad player if he's come from being an almost-regular at Milan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted June 8, 2013 Share Posted June 8, 2013 I can literally count on one hand the 'world-class' performances he;s put in as a player. He's incredibly over-hyped for those 4-5 world class performance, especially the ones vs Barca. Yes he's technically weak, meaning he doesn't have great technique in his passing, shooting, tackling..etc .He's so inconsistent that even when fit, he often doesn't make the starting XI of Milan. Well I completely disagree, especially regarding his shooting. And that isn't true either, he's played in a lot of positions this season. I think he's clocked around 40 appearances at least, starting majority, so I wouldn't say he doesn't often make the Milan starting XI. Each to their own though! Just reiterate ans clarify again, I think he's a cracking player on his day and he's actually one of my favourite players to watch in the Serie A but that doesn't mean I'm advocating we should get him. I'm just voicing my opinion on those saying he doesn't offer much technically or that all he's good at is basically running! He doesn't fit our squad make up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IliyaDamyanov 43 Posted June 8, 2013 Share Posted June 8, 2013 might be true....from 2012 By Patrick AkotoGhana international Kevin-Prince Boateng could be heading to Real Madrid as a swap deal for midfielder Samir Khedira, reports in Spain has claimed.AC Milan is reportedly keen to prize away Khedira who has been unsettled at the Bernabeu with the ex-Black Stars superstar expected to move to the opposite direction.Madrid boss Jose Mourinho is believed to be a key admirer of the 25-year-old who has put up eye-catching performance for the Italian giant since he joined them.The Spanish giant will test the resolve of the Rossoneri to keep hold of their enforcer if they put in a bid for the ex-Stuggart star.The Portuguese tactician has had excellent working relationshipwith Ghanaian players in the past.He brought midfielder Michael Essien to Chelsea and also swooped for Sulley Muntari from relegated English side Portsmouth when he joined Milan’s rivals Inter.he is world-class player if he play as a CM or AM , not as RW like last season in Milan...Just remember the World Cup in 2010 , Ghana reached the 1/8 finals and lost agaist Uruguay because of Suarez save in 90+....He was the best player for Ghana on this competion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,892 Posted June 8, 2013 Share Posted June 8, 2013 Were they not Essien's main assets in his prime? Essiens main asset was his ability to win the ball back and cover a lot of ground. He and Boateng are about as similar as Drogba and Cech though. Boateng is mostly an attacking midfielder. Hes played on the wing for Milan last season because he doesn't fit a MF role in 4-3-3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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