Ilkay Gundogan

[The Skipper 20,593]

  On 30/01/2014 at 16:08, CHOULO19 said:

We've just bought a central midfielder and we have MVG and possibly Romeu returning next season. I really doubt we will be targeting another CM in the summer.

Kroos is a different type of player to those you've mentioned.

[Stingray 9,441]

  On 30/01/2014 at 17:04, The Skipper said:

  On 30/01/2014 at 16:08, CHOULO19 said:

We've just bought a central midfielder and we have MVG and possibly Romeu returning next season. I really doubt we will be targeting another CM in the summer.

Kroos is a different type of player to those you've mentioned.

Indeed, I saw him (Kroos) shine as an AMC. I thought he did much less well as a CM tbh .... He can play there of course, but it seems another square peg, round hole thing to even consider buying him as a pure CM.

[yuvala 2,167]

  On 30/01/2014 at 17:07, Stingray said:

Indeed, I saw him (Kroos) shine as an AMC. I thought he did much less well as a CM tbh .... He can play there of course, but it seems another square peg, round hole thing to even consider buying him as a pure CM.

Yea he really does much better in advanced positions.

[Jase 43,479]

  On 30/01/2014 at 14:47, Belgiannutt said:

True but he's one of the best, available, dlp and Dortmund play the way we play so he'd fit our system like a glove.

Inclined to agree but not worth getting if he's gonna get injured more often than not.

[Spike 12,049]

Check 'em.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2558494/Ilkay-Gundogans-father-puts-United-alert-claiming-Borussia-Dortmund-star-ready-leave.html

[Mufassir08 2,400]

Injuries..............................

[The Skipper 20,593]

  On 14/02/2014 at 10:28, Mufassir said:

Injuries..............................

He's not going to be injured for the rest if his career is he? Yeah he's had a bad year of injuries but that doesn't mean he won't get over it.

People are overstating his injuries IMO.

[Mufassir08 2,400]

  On 14/02/2014 at 10:29, The Skipper said:

He's not going to be injured for the rest if his career is he? Yeah he's had a bad year of injuries but that doesn't mean he won't get over it.

People are overstating his injuries IMO.

Mate Back injuries can be tricky........

[The Skipper 20,593]

  On 14/02/2014 at 10:32, Mufassir said:

Mate Back injuries can be tricky........

Of course they can be but people are acting like he'll never get over them which I think isn't true.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

If those injuries can significantly reduce his price tag, then it might be worth a risk. He really can be world class if he shakes them.

[Mufassir08 2,400]

  On 14/02/2014 at 10:39, The Skipper said:

Of course they can be but people are acting like he'll never get over them which I think isn't true.

That's the thing,What if he does not properly recover from his chronic back problems?Maybe its the pessimist in me speaking but he wont do us much good if he is injured every other week.

[Reddish-Blue 2,432]

  On 14/02/2014 at 10:39, The Skipper said:

Of course they can be but people are acting like he'll never get over them which I think isn't true.

I'm sure he'll get over the injuries because he's 23..but if he has spinal problems, then that's a serious concern for the future

[Spike 12,049]

  On 14/02/2014 at 10:54, Mufassir said:

That's the thing,What if he does not properly recover from his chronic back problems?Maybe its the pessimist in me speaking but he wont do us much good if he is injured every other week.

If it makes you feel any better, Kaka was almost paralysed when he broke his back as a teenager.

[Toli 977]

  On 16/02/2014 at 01:06, Spike Spiegel said:

If it makes you feel any better, Kaka was almost paralysed when he broke his back as a teenager.

you cant compare one player to another. futhermore, kaka wasnt even playing top football back then, while Gündogan is playing top football. its like comparing somebody from your normal life having a back injury to a profssional football player. and kaka didnt have the same injury as Gündogan

back injuries are really bad though. they can always come back and it takes often long time (as you can see with ilkay) to recover from them. some players suffer their whole careers after this sort of injuries.

[Jase 43,479]

On the left...

[Vybz Kartel 1,613]

Would rather get Toni Kroos than him

[Beepu 1,714]

If he can get over his back problems then I would chose him over Kross all day.

[didierforever 7,349]

we already have matic, gundogan gives us nothing special. kroos will be a much better option to play alongside matic.