HNKS 508 Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 People are forgetting we paid £18m for Lukaku. Yes he was young but also unproven and a massive risk. Burak has been immense in the Champions league this season, playing for a Galatasaray. Chelsea have a better squad than Galatasaray, I really think he could do some damage if he joined us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rerererarara 4 Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 not really. I guess you know your best teams don't stand a chance against Benfica or PortoFener was outclassed in every way by us. And Trabzonspor didn't do better some time ago...Overall I think there's less young talent in your league than in ours. Although you have way more cash...btw I remember Yilmaz playing for Trab against us. Looked dangerous but not Chelsea material....I'm talking about the competitiviness of a league.I'm not trying to say the Turkish teams are better than the Portugese teams.Portugese League is mainly dominated by Benfica and Porto.As far as I know these two teams finished the season without losing a single game or so.This is something you can never see in Süper Lig.Trabzonspor is the 4th major club in Turkey it is no surprise they were eliminated by Benfica.Burak Yılmaz increased his skills to %200 since then.He is not the same player anymore.To be honest,Even though i hate them and very glad you made it through the final over them,you eliminated a sh*t fenerbahçe.They got extremely lucky(draws,red cards,weird penalties) through the whole tournament despite their sh*t football and they had their most important players injured in the second leg and yet you could have been kicked out by one goal you know that.Beşiktaş eliminated Braga a few years ago.We beat you at Estadio da Luz in uefa cup.Also we were capable of beating any team on our day (schalke,real,manchester).There are so many examples like that so you can't just say Turkish teams can't stand a chance against Porto or Benfica by looking at one game.Overall,you are right about the young talents and yes Benfica and Porto are more successfull teams compared to Galatasaray and Fener.But the Turkish League has become one of the most competitive leagues in Europe where any team can beat any team while in the Portugese the champions are determined by the games between Porto and Benfica.It's never easy to score 24 or 33 goals in a seaso here.(Drogba scored only 6 in 17 games).I'm bettin Burak could score much more of this number in the Portugese League Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toli 977 Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 People are forgetting we paid £18m for Lukaku. Yes he was young but also unproven and a massive risk. Burak has been immense in the Champions league this season, playing for a Galatasaray. Chelsea have a better squad than Galatasaray, I really think he could do some damage if he joined us.so you comparing an 18-year old supertalent, who was chased by Real Madrid and other big clubs, with a 28-year old guy, who played his first good seaoson in the CL (i think he had 0 goals with trabzonspor). not really a good comparison if you ask me.burak is no chelsea material. he is a good striker, but not good enough for us. we should aim for better players or give the youth (lukaku, feruz) a chance instead of just buying strikers for the sake of it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 People are forgetting we paid £18m for Lukaku. Yes he was young but also unproven and a massive risk. Burak has been immense in the Champions league this season, playing for a Galatasaray. Chelsea have a better squad than Galatasaray, I really think he could do some damage if he joined us.Also, Lukaku was 12m euros rising up to 18m euros, not £18m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
José Mateus 46 Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 I'm talking about the competitiviness of a league.I'm not trying to say the Turkish teams are better than the Portugese teams.Portugese League is mainly dominated by Benfica and Porto.As far as I know these two teams finished the season without losing a single game or so.This is something you can never see in Süper Lig.Trabzonspor is the 4th major club in Turkey it is no surprise they were eliminated by Benfica.Burak Yılmaz increased his skills to %200 since then.He is not the same player anymore.To be honest,Even though i hate them and very glad you made it through the final over them,you eliminated a sh*t fenerbahçe.They got extremely lucky(draws,red cards,weird penalties) through the whole tournament despite their sh*t football and they had their most important players injured in the second leg and yet you could have been kicked out by one goal you know that.Beşiktaş eliminated Braga a few years ago.We beat you at Estadio da Luz in uefa cup.Also we were capable of beating any team on our day (schalke,real,manchester).There are so many examples like that so you can't just say Turkish teams can't stand a chance against Porto or Benfica by looking at one game.Overall,you are right about the young talents and yes Benfica and Porto are more successfull teams compared to Galatasaray and Fener.But the Turkish League has become one of the most competitive leagues in Europe where any team can beat any team while in the Portugese the champions are determined by the games between Porto and Benfica.It's never easy to score 24 or 33 goals in a seaso here.(Drogba scored only 6 in 17 games).I'm bettin Burak could score much more of this number in the Portugese LeagueI remember watching both games between Braga and Besiktas and thinking that Braga was far superior... The referee had a say in those games...In fact I'm not familiarized with your league, but I think you spend way too much money (Gala, Fener) for the end product you get. It's kind of odd that you can't compare the budgets, but we do really step up with fewer resources.You are right about the rest. Benfica and Porto usually dominate the league, but that doesn't mean the other teams are weak... Sporting finished 7th this season and they hadn't a bad team by any way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HNKS 508 Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 so you comparing an 18-year old supertalent, who was chased by Real Madrid and other big clubs, with a 28-year old guy, who played his first good seaoson in the CL (i think he had 0 goals with trabzonspor). not really a good comparison if you ask me.burak is no chelsea material. he is a good striker, but not good enough for us. we should aim for better players or give the youth (lukaku, feruz) a chance instead of just buying strikers for the sake of itSuper talent? He was great in a below average league before he joined us. It was a massive risk for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif 6,006 Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 I don't see why he 'isn't' on the level of certain rival players in the league. You're not magically 'not as good' just because you've played your football in another country. Sure, he may not make the same immediate impact that buying someone from one of the top 4/5 leagues would have, but that doesn't mean he's not as good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waterfall 893 Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 Super talent? He was great in a below average league before he joined us. It was a massive risk for us. Great in a below average league? Hmm... where's this Yilmaz guy coming from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ulsterchelsea 3,221 Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 Who the fuck is he? Ive never heard of him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheva. 5,373 Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 People who say he's good enough for Arsenal/Liverpool, cool, but for sure he'll score many goals there and also score against us. So how isn't he good enough for Chelsea again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HNKS 508 Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 Great in a below average league? Hmm... where's this Yilmaz guy coming from?Also from a below par league yes, but the difference here is Burak Yilmaz has scored a shit ton of goals in the Champions league this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Behemoth 266 Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 20M, are people mental? If we're gonna dish out that sort of cash, we could get Dzeko for the same money and he's 5 times better! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,915 Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 He's had an insane season but i think these rumours are bound to happen because of it. He'll be linked with everyone i suppose. I'd like to see him have 2 or 3 more of these kinds of seasons or maybe join a better league first to see just how good he is. Although that would probably put his valuation up. We need 1 proven guaranteed world class striker who's at the very top level. We have Lukaku and Ba for options already. Hes 27, in 2 or 3 years he'll nearly be 30 so no point.EDIT:Sorry just seen its an old post from March gaha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilvorak 3,734 Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 He's not good enough. Overrated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif 6,006 Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 I want someone to actually highlight what he can't do as a player and explain why he's not good enough for our system please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 Who the fuck is he? Ive never heard of himReally? He's that Galatasaray striker who's scored a lot of goals in the CL this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toli 977 Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 I want someone to actually highlight what he can't do as a player and explain why he's not good enough for our system please.he is technically limited. he wont contribute to our link-up game. with 27/28 he has no experience outside of his country and never has played for a top-club. he played 1 good season in the CL, his first one was awful. for turkey, he hasnt proven himself neither. so we have: a 28-year old player, who has only proven himself in his own country and played one decent CL season...futhermore 4 of his 9 goals he scored against Cluj (who where awful) and 1 against braga (average team). so 5 goals against good teams. surely still a good record, but it doesnt looks special anymore. and before drogba came, the whole galatasaray system was build up on him and here for sure he wont be the center of the game.i dont even know, if you are for real with him or you are trying to troll us...burak is a good player, but nothing more. nowhere NEAR chelsea class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ulsterchelsea 3,221 Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 Really? He's that Galatasaray striker who's scored a lot of goals in the CL this season. nope! Watch very little outside of Chels tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matheradam 4 Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 As there are very few striking options now, I could see Chelsea putting in a bid for Yilmaz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 Im a bit of a late joiner to this thread, but lol at people putting down Yilmaz's goal record to being in the Turkish League.The Turkish league is not the Northern Irish 4th division (no disrespect), its a highly competitive league and one of the best league's in Europe (outside the obvious 4 you can make a case for it being the best). The Portuguese league and Turkish league are similar in terms of the standard and the quality, people thought Falcao might struggle with the step up to one of the big league's, oooppsss.If we lose out on Cavani i would happily take a punt on this guy for £20-25m, 67 goals in 82 games (over the last two season's) is not to be sniffed at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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