OhForAGreavsie 6,076 Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 How come Loftus-Cheek, Solanke and Izzy Brown get mentioned and Boga doesn't?I've been impressed with this kid since I saw him against Barcelona away in a CL game. He ran the show and danced through Barca's players with ease. Wonderful talent.Agreed, 'Jed' was brilliant in that game, which was not in CL but the NextGen by the way, but we can only guess that the lack of first team buzz about him is due to worries about his tactical awareness, fitness and form. He should surely make the tour(s) this summer. Let's hope he gets the chance to impress again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Colored Sky 1,807 Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 How come Loftus-Cheek, Solanke and Izzy Brown get mentioned and Boga doesn't?I've been impressed with this kid since I saw him against Barcelona away in a CL game. He ran the show and danced through Barca's players with ease. Wonderful talent.Those Barca fans who saw that match still talk about him. He was 16 back then But seriously, he's the biggest talent out there. From quality point of view as well as physical as well as his movements. When he's in his full flow he looks like a first team player somehow still trapped in the development league. He has so much of a readiness to play in the senior football already, I think he wouldn't have to adjust. Of course tactically he is still lagging behind but so are many of the young players. Even RLC is not there defensively. All of them have to progress but it's natural. I'm sure Eden Hazard wasn't anything good in the tactical thing when he was 18. Hell, he wasn't even good when he joined here at 21.Immaculate talent, freak physique. There was one action yesterday when Boga had the ball glued to his feet for 60-70 yards, during that time he was assaulted by many players from different angles but he still kept going. It's ridiculous how strong he is on his feet. That's why I always give the edge over others young offensive players who are often too week for seniors. Jeremie is by far stronger than Cuadrado for example. I'm sure that with couple of months he would be much more ready for the Premier League than Juan Cuadrado.Boga already showed against senior players in the pre-season how strong he is and that he belongs to the senior level. Cuadrado would fall off at least 3 times in that action.https://youtu.be/PSUVFghgqQg?t=48sHe'd do the job now but really don't know where his future lies. The best for him would probably be if he'd be released in the summer, many big clubs would be after him with chance to play at the highest level. You know, loans are good, but player, especially as talented as him, can progress much faster when playing at the high level.He can go on loan but after one loan there will be another etc. One loan, ok, but you know that he's going on carousel of loans. It's sad story. Doubt that he's going to be with the first team next season. He is homegrown, he doesn't have any more business in the development leagues. I really would root to make it anywhere but Chelsea. I fear that Mourinho, if he's going to include some youngsters, they all will be English and also the biggest of them (so for example no Jay Dasilva and Charlie Colkett but RLC and Solanke/Brown). Jeremie should search for happiness somewhere else. You just know that we're going to sign Douglas Costa or other Enner Valencia, so we will have two average/decent players for two spots. Of course instead of those two we should have one of supreme quality and the other supreme youngster.I doubt that we will have player as talented and as "first-team looking" like him for the long time in the Academy yet the situation seems doomed. Ryan Fong, The Chels and The Skipper 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bouletje 82 Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 Seen him play a couple of games and only saw the second half yesterday, he was great, it's like seeing hazard play. Shame tho he's been having some bad luck with injuries. Also his physical prescence is starting to worry me, with the style he and hazard share, i'd rather see him not bulking up any further than this, imo he appears heavier and slower already than hazard. And that's something a player with that style of play can't have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Colored Sky 1,807 Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 Seen him play a couple of games and only saw the second half yesterday, he was great, it's like seeing hazard play.Shame tho he's been having some bad luck with injuries. Also his physical prescence is starting to worry me, with the style he and hazard share, i'd rather see him not bulking up any further than this, imo he appears heavier and slower already than hazard. And that's something a player with that style of play can't have.But he has just mindblowing acceleration from standing position. His style of play is just like Hazard's - full of stops, burst, stops, bursts.So many young players are struggling with physicality that I'm hugely relief that this guy is already there from physical point of view. It's good that he's such a beast in standing on his feet.Mourinho hasn't promoted any offensive player yet in his career. So far only 6'2" defenders/midfielder. I'd love if Jeremie would change that. I think that if Jeremie was a player in the opposition club then Mourinho would take time to figure out how to stop him. The same happened with Sterling, Januzaj or Kane from recent time. So Jose actually can acknowledge that young kid can be quality, dangerous player. Why he can't see that in our own youngsters though ?Nah, I think (hope ?) that they really put a deep thoughts about it like Jose said, like Emenalo said, like Neil Bath said (Academy director). They put a deep thoughts and try to find the solutions. Neil Bath said that the goal is to bring a 1 player each year. For sure he didn't say that because that's his wishful thinking but rather a conclusion with the board, the owner, the manager etc. They all have the same aim , at least I want to believe in that somehow. They already included a couple of those players on the Champions League list so maybe that's the phase 1 of this process. Again, that's my hope.But forking them out on loan is not the best solution. Many of them would thrive in playing with better players, on the same wavelength. Loans can be very harmful. I just hope they figure the whole things out so we won't lose this golden generation. Stats 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Styles 9,790 Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 I love coming in this thread and seeing the picture in the opening post because I was there that day! Paid a fiver to watch the kids batter Wolves I think it was. Good times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shakez 755 Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 Only thing im worrying about is his injury track-record. Hope he sets the world on fire and doesn't end up like Thiago Alcantara. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iseah100 5,612 Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 Only thing im worrying about is his injury track-record. Hope he sets the world on fire and doesn't end up like Thiago Alcantara.Reminded me of Nike[emoji25] [emoji174] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 Reminded me of Nike[emoji25] [emoji174]Weirdest thing ever, just as I was reading this Thiago scored for Bayern! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ulvhedin 526 Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 Wonder how will Musonda react to this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 Wonder how will Musonda react to thisI heard he made some negative online comments. He won't make it hereunder Mourinho with that attitude. Mourinho trusts character as much as talent and if a young player is not as patient as Azpilicueta it'll be hard for him under Mourinho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 Wonder how will Musonda react to thisI heard he made some negative online comments. He won't make it hereunder Mourinho with that attitude. Mourinho trusts character as much as talent and if a young player is not as patient as Azpilicueta was, it'll be hard for him under Mourinho. nyikolajevics 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILoveLamp 270 Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 Wonder how will Musonda react to thisI imagine that is what his recent outburst online was about....disappointing to see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shakez 755 Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 Wonder how will Musonda react to thisWe'll it is kinda strange. Jeremie was very up and down this year, with Musonda outshining him on several occasions. Boga got subbed off at half-time not that long ago in favour of Musonda (no injury). But yeah, Mourinho sticked with the same players he was pointing out at the beginning of the season (pre-season). You can actually compare it with the KDB and Mata situation, if they don't fit his profile chances are big that he won't feature them no matter how they perform. It is unfair though, Musonda played his heart out in most games. Was very versatile/consistent(played as an 8, N10, right and left winger at roughly the same level), never injured, wasn't shy too defend (unlike Boga), but still went unnoticed by Mourinho. There are arguments to be made for Charlie Colkett as well. Anyway, it doesn't really matter if Boga got the nod against Sunderland. Both will mostly likely go on loan anyway, and then we will see who will develop into a top player. Jeronimo123 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ulvhedin 526 Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 We'll it is kinda strange. Jeremie was very up and down this year, with Musonda outshining him on several occasions. Boga got subbed off at half-time not that long ago in favour of Musonda (no injury). But yeah, Mourinho sticked with the same players he was pointing out at the beginning of the season (pre-season). You can actually compare it with the KDB and Mata situation, if they don't fit his profile chances are big that he won't feature them no matter how they perform. It is unfair though, Musonda played his heart out in most games. Was very versatile/consistent(played as an 8, N10, right and left winger at roughly the same level), never injured, wasn't shy too defend (unlike Boga), but still went unnoticed by Mourinho. There are arguments to be made for Charlie Colkett as well. Anyway, it doesn't really matter if Boga got the nod against Sunderland. Both will mostly likely go on loan anyway, and then we will see who will develop into a top player. Yeah, don't know what Colkett and Musonda have to do to get some recognition from Mou Jeronimo123 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Colored Sky 1,807 Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 We'll it is kinda strange. Jeremie was very up and down this year, with Musonda outshining him on several occasions. Boga got subbed off at half-time not that long ago in favour of Musonda (no injury). But yeah, Mourinho sticked with the same players he was pointing out at the beginning of the season (pre-season). You can actually compare it with the KDB and Mata situation, if they don't fit his profile chances are big that he won't feature them no matter how they perform. It is unfair though, Musonda played his heart out in most games. Was very versatile/consistent(played as an 8, N10, right and left winger at roughly the same level), never injured, wasn't shy too defend (unlike Boga), but still went unnoticed by Mourinho. There are arguments to be made for Charlie Colkett as well. Anyway, it doesn't really matter if Boga got the nod against Sunderland. Both will mostly likely go on loan anyway, and then we will see who will develop into a top player. Pff Boga played fantastic for U21 as a 16 years old. He was up and down this season but when he's up he is the best player and looks the most senior player on the pitch by a mile. He decided to turn and we've won UEFA Youth League. He is just special talent and deserves special treatment and it's bizarre thing at it's finest that he only now get the nod. Up until December he was unplayable and I think he should then got his reward.And btw remember that RLC wasn't with the first team last summer. Mourinho hasn't mentioned him at all until he pulled him of the hat before Champions League game.I have an idea how you develop kids without compromising the results. And I think you have to be unfair with some of them and choose the best of the bunch, 1 or 2 and develop them, and not try to promote everyone of them at the same time. Therefore it's UNFAIR for Musonda but it's FAIRER for Boga to finally get his debut as his special talent and 3 years of youth performance deserve.They should all get the debuts but when Izzy Brown debut is belated by 5 months (?) since he has sat on the bench for the first time, you have the picture about youth approach. Stats and The Skipper 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pHaRaOn 2,131 Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 Jose already worked with Boga in pre-season. So, no wonder he decided to give him his debut first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stats 7,147 Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 So happy about this. For a long while he has been my favourite youth player. He plays like Hazard and I view him in the same way as in everytime I watch Boga I get a thrill and anticipation that he is going to pull of something exciting. He is under the radar in the football world but he has the talent to become a quality player. Hopefully it is at us. If it was not for his injuries I reckon he would have progressed even further. In the summer when he took part in the first team friendlies, he was arguably our best player so glad to see he has finally been rewarded after all his years excelling through the youth teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shakez 755 Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 Pff Boga played fantastic for U21 as a 16 years old. He was up and down this season but when he's up he is the best player and looks the most senior player on the pitch by a mile. He decided to turn and we've won UEFA Youth League. He is just special talent and deserves special treatment and it's bizarre thing at it's finest that he only now get the nod. Up until December he was unplayable and I think he should then got his reward.And btw remember that RLC wasn't with the first team last summer. Mourinho hasn't mentioned him at all until he pulled him of the hat before Champions League game.I have an idea how you develop kids without compromising the results. And I think you have to be unfair with some of them and choose the best of the bunch, 1 or 2 and develop them, and not try to promote everyone of them at the same time. Therefore it's UNFAIR for Musonda but it's FAIRER for Boga to finally get his debut as his special talent and 3 years of youth performance deserve.They should all get the debuts but when Izzy Brown debut is belated by 5 months (?) since he has sat on the bench for the first time, you have the picture about youth approach.Yeh, Boga is very talented and im glad he got the nod. At his day he is better equipped to play in a Mourinho team than Musonda, altough he is pretty lacks in pressing and defending (a bit lazy). I hope both of them get a good loan, and they both develop towards their potential. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rom2013 446 Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 Pff Boga played fantastic for U21 as a 16 years old. He was up and down this season but when he's up he is the best player and looks the most senior player on the pitch by a mile. He decided to turn and we've won UEFA Youth League. He is just special talent and deserves special treatment and it's bizarre thing at it's finest that he only now get the nod. Up until December he was unplayable and I think he should then got his reward.And btw remember that RLC wasn't with the first team last summer. Mourinho hasn't mentioned him at all until he pulled him of the hat before Champions League game.I have an idea how you develop kids without compromising the results. And I think you have to be unfair with some of them and choose the best of the bunch, 1 or 2 and develop them, and not try to promote everyone of them at the same time. Therefore it's UNFAIR for Musonda but it's FAIRER for Boga to finally get his debut as his special talent and 3 years of youth performance deserve.They should all get the debuts but when Izzy Brown debut is belated by 5 months (?) since he has sat on the bench for the first time, you have the picture about youth approach.I totally agree. We should choose 3 players now to bet on them in the next 2 years, the others will need to wait or go on loan and prove they are good enough out of here. We can't have all of them. For example we have Solanke and Bamford... we can't have both. we need to choose one right now. We have Boga, Musonda and Izzy... In reality only 2 of those should have a chance, but a real chance.I would bet on Boga, Loftus and one of the CF. THe others will need to wait or try to do it out of here.Ake couldn't do it, he needs to go. He doesn't have the phisical habilities to play hwere he is supposed to play.From what I saw... Boga is clearly the most talented player between all the kids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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