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I agree that His stats are poor and he has a not performed to his level last year but the scenario is different this time , we have a manager who is trying to change the system to help him and it's working , before that he was forced to play in that specific Drogba role and though we found out in his first 5 apps , it aint going to work , but we kept pushing him to adjust himself , and he tried but he's not muscular enough for that role and holding the ball has never been his strong side so he failed . And your argument that he's only scoring against the weaker teams , LOL WHAT ABOUT MESSI AND FALCAO ? They play in the easiest league in the whole planet <_<

What are you talking about mate? Seriously?

Firstly, La Liga is not the easiest league in the world. In my opinion, it's on the same level as the English Premier League. If you can come up with any stats or reasonable argument that suggests it's not on a similar level to the EPL then go ahead, be my guest.

Secondly, I'm not quite sure what you're getting at, but are you implying that Torres is better than Messi? :blink:

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Firstly, La Liga is not the easiest league in the world. In my opinion, it's on the same level as the English Premier League.

LOL seriously ? Everyone knows La Liga is simply a two-horse race. In the EPL, you have six legitimate world-class teams that can beat any team in the world: City , United , Liverpool, Chelsea, Arsenal and Tottenham. So while people get to watch two El Clasico clashes in La Liga yearly, but with so much talent and class at the top half of the table in the EPL, there's always noteworthy clashes nearly every weekend in EPL.

P.S : I never said Torres is better than messi =P

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Just compare the two league tables and it tells you a different story.

What story does it tell then?

Comparing leagues from two different tables will only get you so far. Compare how many teams from both leagues are still in the Champions League and Europa League, and also what happens when English teams play Spanish teams. English teams definitely do not dominate against Spanish teams.

People seem to think that La Liga isn't as great as the EPL because it's not as 'fast-paced' and because it's always a two horse race. But let's face it, the EPL is also a two horse race with maybe a third club having a chance of winning the title. And that's the exact same as La Liga. Atletico being that third club, who are actually ahead of Real Madrid and sit in second place.

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LOL seriously ? Everyone knows La Liga is simply a two-horse race. In the EPL, you have six legitimate world-class teams that can beat any team in the world: City , United , Liverpool, Chelsea, Arsenal and Tottenham. So while people get to watch two El Clasico clashes in La Liga yearly, but with so much talent and class at the top half of the table in the EPL, there's always noteworthy clashes nearly every weekend in EPL.

P.S : I never said Torres is better than messi =P

Do you really think any of those six teams can win the EPL? Like I said, it's also a two horse race just like La Liga. With maybe a third club in with a chance of winning the title.

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I would rather watch Stoke vs Everton then Real Madrid vs anyone other then Athletico Madrid or Barca.

Well, that's your preference. But just because you would prefer to watch Stoke vs Everton, it does not mean La Liga is not on the same level as the EPL.

Some notable Real Madrid results so far this season:

Draw with Valenca, loss to Getafe, loss to Sevilla, loss to Real Betis, loss to Celta Vigo.

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Do you really think any of those six teams can win the EPL?

Yes , I do :)

The latter scored a hattrick against European champions.

He scored that against our weak side , we are in the Europa league with Atleti , lets see if he could even snatch a goal against us =P

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Yes , I do :)

He scored that against our weak side , we are in the Europa league with Atleti , lets see if he could even snatch a goal against us =P

Well if you really think that Arsenal, Tottenham or Liverpool could win the Premier League then there's no point in arguing with you.

He scored that against our weak side? What are you talking about?

Chelsea's starting line-up vs Atletico:

Petr Cech; Ashley Cole, David Luiz, Gary Cahill, Branislav Ivanovic; John Obi Mikel, Frank Lampard ©; Eden Hazard, Juan Mata, Ramires; Fernando Torres

Now other than Terry missing, in what way is that our weak side? It's not very different from the usual starting 11 we put out now.

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He scored that against our weak side , we are in the Europa league with Atleti , lets see if he could even snatch a goal against us =P

At that time we were 1st in the league. Not only did he do that against European champions, but against the leaders of the EPL.

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Well if you really think that Arsenal, Tottenham or Liverpool could win the Premier League then there's no point in arguing with you.

He scored that against our weak side? What are you talking about?

Chelsea's starting line-up vs Atletico:

Petr Cech; Ashley Cole, David Luiz, Gary Cahill, Branislav Ivanovic; John Obi Mikel, Frank Lampard ©; Eden Hazard, Juan Mata, Ramires; Fernando Torres

Now other than Terry missing, in what way is that our weak side? It's not very different from the usual starting 11 we put out now.

At that time we were 1st in the league. Not only did he do that against European champions, but against the leaders of the EPL.

Fuck my english , I meant if we had a better manager than RDM (Respect to him ) we would have never let the Super Cup slips from our hand . Oh well i dont want to create another controversy here but my point is RDM was tactically poor , Atleti goals came from counters , wtf our fullbacks were doing so high up on the pitch ? we did so many tactical mistakes on that particular match , tbh in the whole RDM reign

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Fuck my english , I meant if we had a better manager than RDM (Respect to him ) we would have never let the Super Cup slips from our hand . Oh well i dont want to create another controversy here but my point is RDM was tactically poor , Atleti goals came from counters , wtf our fullbacks were doing so high up on the pitch ? we did so many tactical mistakes on that particular match , tbh in the whole RDM reign

So RDM's lack of tactical awareness somehow takes away from Falcao's talent and ability? This makes no sense.

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