YouNameIt 1,511 Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 Amazing performance by El Nino today! Im just pissed at del Bosque for not giving him more playtime during the other matches...And btw, how come Torres won the Golden Boot? What do they look at secondly when several others have the same ammount of goals scored? Was it because he scored in the final? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 4,400 Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 He won the Golden boot in what.... 184 minutes did someone say? Not much more he coulda done in that time yet no ... this is Talk Chelsea lol he'll just get abused for 3 goals and 1 assist in 184 minutes. The Rising Sun and susu 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 4,400 Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 Amazing performance by El Nino today! Im just pissed at del Bosque for not giving him more playtime during the other matches...And btw, how come Torres won the Golden Boot? What do they look at secondly when several others have the same ammount of goals scored? Was it because he scored in the final?He got 3 goals and 1 assist in less minutes than Mario Gomez. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouNameIt 1,511 Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 He got 3 goals and 1 assist in less minutes than Mario Gomez.What about Alan Dzagoev (Russia) and Mario Mandzukic (Croatia)? They both had 3 goals in less minutes than Gomez. Guess they had no assists then and Gomez had one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 I don't think you are alone, i don't think it was convincing either.But why take anything away from what he accomplished? Fact is he won the Golden boot, few players have accomplished that, and did really well in the opportunity he was given.Not taking away the goals and what he did but the amount of people having a wankfest over Torres just because of the trophies he has won this year is just embarrassing. He may have won all those trophies but it still doesn't hide the fact that he blows hot and cold at the moment and is still nowhere near his best. He scored 2 against a rubbish Ireland side(no disrespect to them) and 1 against an Italy who have already given up and people are treating it like he scored the winning goal in a World Cup final against Brazil, Argentina or something. TorontoChelsea, Peace. and Justin_3d 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 4,400 Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 Well yeah... you worked it out lol. And he did it in the final and won the trophy so good on him! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 4,400 Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 Not taking away the goals and what he did but the amount of people having a wankfest over Torres just because of the trophies he has won this year is just embarrassing. He may have won all those trophies but it still doesn't hide the fact that he blows hot and cold at the moment and is still nowhere near his best. He scored 2 against a rubbish Ireland side(no disrespect to them) and 1 against an Italy who have already given up and people are treating it like he scored the winning goal in a World Cup final against Brazil, Argentina or something. Players get judged on trophies. I'd rather win trophies like Torres than be like Le Tissier or Shearer. Torres contributed in every trophy they won regardless of the circumstances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 Players get judged on trophies. I'd rather win trophies like Torres than be like Le Tissier or Shearer. Torres contributed in every trophy they won regardless of the circumstances.Then why exactly Kalou and/or Bosingwa never seem to get much love as compared to Torres? Can we say that they are better players than Shearer, Le Tissier etc? Waterfall and EBH 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 4,400 Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 Kalou is shit but when he looks back on his career, he'll be happier than Shearer and Le Tiss i bet. Kalou got his move to Chelsea, good on him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 Kalou is shit but when he looks back on his career, he'll be happier than Shearer and Le Tiss i bet. Kalou got his move to Chelsea, good on him.Torres has been shit too then in his Chelsea career. Done greatly at Liverpool but won nothing there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jype 6,398 Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 Happy for his personal success, (and hoping he can carry some of that into next season), but yeah, 3 goals aren't too much to shout about.He played less than 200 minutes in the whole tournament and still managed to get 3 goals and an assist. If he was that prolific in the league for the whole season it would amount to over 50 goals in total. I agree that it's still way too early to claim he's all of a sudden back to his best after scoring a couple goals because we've all been down that road before and have ended up disappointed every single time but ffs, there's not much more he could have done with so little playing time and to win the golden boot despite starting as a substitute in all but one match is somethings exceptional.I'll admit I've recently been one of his biggest criticizers but today I'll be getting my first tiny piece of that humble pie. If he continues that form when the season starts, I'll have a larger slice. samzilla 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,571 Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 Torres Played 189 Minutes.Dzagoev Played 253 Minutes.Mandzukic Played 270 Minutes.Gomez Played 282 Minutes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy. 2,742 Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 so do all the Torres haters love him now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 4,400 Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 Torres has been shit for us because of 2 reasons. 1) Shit players around him2) Not enough attention to what he does without always looking at his goal ratio. Fernando Torres is class, he's had a great career but has struggled since 2009. He's 28. Kalou can't and has never been good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Armour 4,439 Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 He played less than 200 minutes in the whole tournament and still managed to get 3 goals and an assist. If he was that prolific in the league for the whole season it would amount to over 50 goals in total. I agree that it's still way too early to claim he's all of a sudden back to his best after scoring a couple goals because we've all been down that road before and have ended up disappointed every single time but ffs, there's not much more he could have done with so little playing time and to win the golden boot despite starting as a substitute in all but one match is somethings exceptional.I'll admit I've recently been one of his biggest criticizers but today I'll be getting my first tiny piece of that humble pie. If he continues that form when the season starts, I'll have a larger slice. Admirable, but still misleading like you said. What will happen next season is uncertain, but there should be no excuses for failure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 Torres has been shit for us because of 2 reasons.1) Shit players around him2) Not enough attention to what he does without always looking at his goal ratio.Fernando Torres is class, he's had a great career but has struggled since 2009. He's 28. Kalou can't and has never been good.IF he really is that class as most people say, then he sould have been able to adapt to the situation/circumstances of the team in recent times. Right now, it's just annoying that we seemingly have to cater everything to his need for him to succeed. Would be happy to get rid of him and get someone like Falcao in, who is a much more all rounder striker than Torres is! Peace. and Justin_3d 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Armour 4,439 Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 so do all the Torres haters love him now?Seriously, there are NO haters, just skeptics and they (including myself) remain skeptical. Jype and DDA 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 4,400 Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 Fact is he looks fit, he looks confident, he looks composed, he is making the right runs, his touch is good, his finishing is good, his passing is good and his link up play is good and he's won 3 big trophies in 6 weeks.If he's not confident now, he never will be. With Hazard, Mata and Ramires and possibly Hulk, Marin and de Bruyne, he must score more, seriously.We've seen what he's done with Spain in 184 minutes with creative players. Melanicus and Azpinator 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin_3d 1,140 Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 Wow makes a goal against a defeated Italy with one less man, and suddenly he is the 8th wonder of the world!50 mill price tag nowhere near met.He still got more to prove. Tomo, Amblève., bababoom and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,571 Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 I hope he will show the same attitude and passion for chelsea next season in the league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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