Footballover 222 Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 Belgiannutt,Look, I understand where you are coming from and I will probably won't be able to change your mind but I will explain myself and we will agree to disagree at the end.Personally, I never got the feeling that Torres is being lazy or not working for the team. Doesn't matter how shit he was, I didn't have the feeling he is doing a "Balotelli" on the pitch, walking or something like this. Yes, he was bad, again, no doubt about it, but IMO he never gave up and I understand if you don't agree with me, it's legitimate.My last post was exaggerated but it was just because I can't stand people that call him cancer or whatever, it's just wrong. I'm no "Torres lover" and I think he has to go, but yet again, you are not really trying to understand my point. Torres is not a "special" player for me because of his great football achievements for us, far from it. Actually, as everyone agree, he was shit for us and will always be remembered as such, but I will never forget how happy I was when he scored against West Ham or when he scored that goal agains Barcelona (and if you say you were not buzzing after that goal you are lying). He is a special player because I will remember him and all the controversy that surrounded him.And again, I think he didn't embarrassed us, I truly don't. I don't care how shit a player is if he really tries on the field, if he runs and if he wants to be better. And again... you may not agree with me, but that's ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Tomo 21,751 Posted August 26, 2014 Popular Post! Share Posted August 26, 2014 Most of you are utter ignorant morons, and I'm really sorry to put it this way, but you just are. You really should be ashamed of yourselves because this is no way to treat a person and more importantly - a Chelsea player. This guy gave what he could most of the times he played for us and even though he had really difficult times as a blue, he never gave up. He even repaid us a little bit with real huge amounts of joy and happiness, and if there is one fucking person here that denies the fact that his goals at Nou Camp and Amsterdam were absolutely immense for us and that they are probably up there with the best goals we ever celebrated, he should be banned from being a Chelsea fan or something... I mean, we all know that Torres is a failure and that he and Chelsea never clicked from day one, but no one will ever forget how happy we all were when he finally scored that goal agains West Ham, or any goal at his enduring unsuccessful Chelsea career... For me he will always be a special player and I will never hate him like some of you apparently do.If there is someone you should really be pissed on is the man who decided to bring Torres to Chelsea, because he was the one who made this mistake, he and his fellow idiots of our board who payed 50 fucking million (!!!) pounds for a player that was already on his way down.So don't be so hard on Torres because he never ashamed our shirt and our club, he was and still is just a player that is not good enough for us, and this happens in football.The thing what you don't seem to get is its not Torres being shit that bugs people it's his attitude, funny how there's so much animosity towards Torres but Sheva and Ba are widely respected with the Chelsea faithful despite there underwhelming times, have you ever wondered why?and using his goal at the Nou Camp as a defence pisses me off, no one seems to acknowledge RAMIRES GOT THE GAME CHANGING GOAL or BOSINGWA YES BOSINGWA made a crucial interception that prevented a two on one vs Cech, no its all Torres apparently despite twice nearly undoing 170 minutes off hardwork for us.Does Bosingwas interception means he should escape criticism for his catastrophic 4 years? does Ramires goal mean we should let him off his bad form the last year?No to both those answer's, but hey Torres can be as shit ss he wants because we owe him for scoring a goal, the sheer amount of excuses for this guy another question, where were you when Kalou was getting shit? CHOULO19, Belgiannutt, Madmax and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! bababoom 4,478 Posted August 26, 2014 Popular Post! Share Posted August 26, 2014 Torres in the PL for Chelsea2010/11 - 14 apps 1 goal2011/12 - 32 apps 6 goals2012/13 - 36 apps 8 goals2013/14 - 28 apps 5 goalsTotal - 110 apps 20 goalsFuck me, didn't think it was that bad Barbara, Belgiannutt, Las7 and 6 others 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 Belgiannutt, Look, I understand where you are coming from and I will probably won't be able to change your mind but I will explain myself and we will agree to disagree at the end. Personally, I never got the feeling that Torres is being lazy or not working for the team. Doesn't matter how shit he was, I didn't have the feeling he is doing a "Balotelli" on the pitch, walking or something like this. Yes, he was bad, again, no doubt about it, but IMO he never gave up and I understand if you don't agree with me, it's legitimate. My last post was exaggerated but it was just because I can't stand people that call him cancer or whatever, it's just wrong. I'm no "Torres lover" and I think he has to go, but yet again, you are not really trying to understand my point. Torres is not a "special" player for me because of his great football achievements for us, far from it. Actually, as everyone agree, he was shit for us and will always be remembered as such, but I will never forget how happy I was when he scored against West Ham or when he scored that goal agains Barcelona (and if you say you were not buzzing after that goal you are lying). He is a special player because I will remember him and all the controversy that surrounded him. And again, I think he didn't embarrassed us, I truly don't. I don't care how shit a player is if he really tries on the field, if he runs and if he wants to be better. And again... you may not agree with me, but that's ok. PERHAPS you shouldnt have called MOST OF US IGNORANT FUCKING MORONS ,,,, samzilla, couris, iseah100 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherry33 234 Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 "the fact that his goals at Nou Camp and Amsterdam were absolutely immense for us"What ? His goal at Amsterdam yes but at Nou Camp ? His goal didn't change anything. We would have still gone through if he didn't score that goal and there was only about 2 minutes left to play. Immense my ass.Of course it was immense, fuck man, 95% of us were certain he would miss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
svajo 153 Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 Torres in the PL for Chelsea2010/11 - 14 apps 1 goal2011/12 - 32 apps 6 goals2012/13 - 36 apps 8 goals2013/14 - 28 apps 5 goalsTotal - 102 apps 20 goalsFuck me, didn't think it was that bad now you can see why people call him "special" bababoom and seanptmiller 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrus 422 Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 he works hard most of the timeIt's slowly becoming a new legend - or a new way to say that Torres is not as bad as he looks.I can remember only 3 matches form last season when he really worked hard and tried to do his best, but I can name at least 10 games where he was walking instead of running when we went to attack, ignoring his companions, going back before our attack was finished - and I'm not even talking about his attempt/score percentage here.If every game he looked like he is realy trying I'm sure this thread would've run differently. Tomo and The Skipper 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 Torres in the PL for Chelsea2010/11 - 14 apps 1 goal2011/12 - 32 apps 6 goals2012/13 - 36 apps 8 goals2013/14 - 28 apps 5 goalsTotal - 102 apps 20 goalsFuck me, didn't think it was that bad Im sure he has played 110 PL games.For perspective Eto'o got nine in twenty one, 11 behind with over 80 games behind, and that is a Eto'o that's a shadow of his former self. bababoom, ulsterchelsea and Barbara 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballover 222 Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 PERHAPS you shouldnt have called MOST OF US IGNORANT FUCKING MORONS ,,,,Yeah, perhaps I shouldn't have Sorry, long day...The thing is that I truly understand what people like Tomo are saying, but you know, it's now like I hate Bosingwa or Ramires, I do critisize them (and Torres) but I don't feel hate towards them, like many of the fans do towards Torres. The goal at Barcelona is not an excuse, it's just a way for me to try and explain my point of view about this player and the way I feel about him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myself 793 Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 The thing what you don't seem to get is its not Torres being shit that bugs people it's his attitude, funny how there's so much animosity towards Torres but Sheva and Ba are widely respected with the Chelsea faithful despite there underwhelming times, have you ever wondered why?and using his goal at the Nou Camp as a defence pisses me off, no one seems to acknowledge RAMIRES GOT THE GAME CHANGING GOAL or BOSINGWA YES BOSINGWA made a crucial interception that prevented a two on one vs Cech, no its all Torres apparently despite twice nearly undoing 170 minutes off hardwork for us.Does Bosingwas interception means he should escape criticism for his catastrophic 4 years? does Ramires goal mean we should let him off his bad form the last year?No to both those answer's, but hey Torres can be as shit ss he wants because we owe him for scoring a goal, the sheer amount of excuses for this guy another question, where were you when Kalou was getting shit?people are defending a striker because he scored a goal.. wow Look, I understand where you are coming from and I will probably won't be able to change your mind but I will explain myself and we will agree to disagree at the end.Personally, I never got the feeling that Torres is being lazy or not working for the team. Doesn't matter how shit he was, I didn't have the feeling he is doing a "Balotelli" on the pitch, walking or something like this. Yes, he was bad, again, no doubt about it, but IMO he never gave up and I understand if you don't agree with me, it's legitimate.My last post was exaggerated but it was just because I can't stand people that call him cancer or whatever, it's just wrong. I'm no "Torres lover" and I think he has to go, but yet again, you are not really trying to understand my point. Torres is not a "special" player for me because of his great football achievements for us, far from it. Actually, as everyone agree, he was shit for us and will always be remembered as such, but I will never forget how happy I was when he scored against West Ham or when he scored that goal agains Barcelona (and if you say you were not buzzing after that goal you are lying). He is a special player because I will remember him and all the controversy that surrounded him.And again, I think he didn't embarrassed us, I truly don't. I don't care how shit a player is if he really tries on the field, if he runs and if he wants to be better. And again... you may not agree with me, but that's ok.PERHAPS you shouldnt have called MOST OF US IGNORANT FUCKING MORONS ,,,,WOW,,,,,,,,, this is the FIRST TIME i haven't seen you POST like,,,,,,,,,, this! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 Yeah, perhaps I shouldn't have Sorry, long day... The thing is that I truly understand what people like Tomo are saying, but you know, it's now like I hate Bosingwa or Ramires, I do critisize them (and Torres) but I don't feel hate towards them, like many of the fans do towards Torres. The goal at Barcelona is not an excuse, it's just a way for me to try and explain my point of view about this player and the way I feel about him.I never hated Bos or Ram .. inover 30 years of supporting Chelsea I dont think I have ever despised a player as much as I do Torres , Even Bogarde wasnt as bad as we got him for free and no one else would have taken him .. I did lose all respect for Joe Cole when he went to Liverpool .. You can keep your affection for Torres but dont expect many to share your views Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bababoom 4,478 Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 Milan-Torres, it waits for a response from Chelsea: the situation 26/08/2014 - 23:53Gianluca Di MarzioMilan, all on Torres. Always chosen to replace the Spaniard Mario Balotelli.The first tip that wants Galliani is precisely El Nino, but only on loan. The high engagement is an obstacle to a possible purchase outright, instead, the player would prefer. Milan have launched a kind of ultimatum to Chelsea, that in the coming hours will have to make a decision. Torres wants to change the air, Milan can be a solution, but only - for now-for one year. The most reliable alternative is, for the moment, Roberto Soldado.Hot hours, AC Milan in the first hunting tiphttp://gianlucadimarzio.com/milan/milan-torres-si-attende-una-risposta-dal-chelsea-la-situazione/ I don't know what i would do if Torres declines the loan offer... stroey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 people are defending a striker because he scored a goal.. wow Fair enoughChris Sutton, Chelsea Legend. Myself 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bababoom 4,478 Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 If Torres goes out on loan do you guys think it'll be Destro who comes in? i have a feeling it'll be someone out of the blue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 Fair enough Chris Sutton, Chelsea Legend.he only stayed a year though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myself 793 Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 If Torres goes out on loan do you guys think it'll be Destro who comes in? i have a feeling it'll be someone out the blue.I really really hope its either Hiueng Min Son or Jay Rodriguez. bababoom, kellzfresh and Barbara 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bababoom 4,478 Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 I really really hope its either Hiueng Min Son or Jay Rodriguez.Jay is out till october i think, pretty risky signing imo. The only place to be 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myself 793 Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 Jay is out till october i think, pretty risky signing imo.It would be.. but it would still be a better signing than Welbeck Barbara and bababoom 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cholo 428 Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 Hiueng Min Son WhatsTheMatic? and TheIceMan 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myself 793 Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 Very good point you've got there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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