The Benitez Thread

[Heisenberg 1,824]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EVcljkmvCI&feature=g-all-u

[The Skipper 20,609]

This people have pretty much made it clear they do not care about the team.

Wrong. People are booing Rafa because they care a lot, they're just showing it in a different way.

[Laylabelle 9,536]

The moans about us in the past from him dont bother me.Thats what other managers do! The plastic flags have been talked about loads of times by other fans,commentators etc.No issue really.At the time it was mind games!

What bothers me is the way the situation has been delt with.The fact he was linked it summer..then we signed RDM and poof here he is!The board are the ones who should be booed!No one wanted him but there wasnt exactly much options it seems!Pep was never gana come in at this time and who knows if at all...limited choice really

[Ryan Fong 2,776]

The moans about us in the past from him dont bother me.Thats what other managers do! The plastic fans have been talked about loads of times by other fans,commentators etc.No issue really.At the time it was mind games!

What bothers me is the way the situation has been delt with.The fact he was linked it summer..then we signed RDM and poof here he is!The board are the ones who should be booed!No one wanted him but there wasnt exactly much options it seems!Pep was never gana come in at this time and who knows if at all...limited choice really

This.

Jose has made tons of nasty comments, did you ever see him apologizes?

If you are still furious about this manager saga, blame the board. AND support the team, AND the manager regardless.

[Fulham Broadway 17,339]

Liverpool were the first to wave plastic flags -eat your words Benitez

https://twitter.com/st3preece/status/200205214643523584/photo/1

[Manuf 1,448]

This.

Jose has made tons of nasty comments, did you ever see him apologizes?

If you are still furious about this manager saga, blame the board. AND support the team, AND the manager regardless.

have you ever seen Jose managing Liverpool or Barcelona?

[Backstreet09 499]

Stop hating Benitez , he said those words when he was managing our RIVALS lol and he's way better than RDM tactically . We finally got a clean sheet after 10 games and against the defending champions who also have the best strike force in EPl , so i think that is some kind of a achievement =P

[Jype 6,398]

Stop hating Benitez , he said those words when he was managing our RIVALS

How does that change anything? Of course he wasn't going to say anything good about Chelsea when he was managing a rival club but why even get involved then? I understand why he sometimes used to slate our players (calling Drogba a diver for example) but there was absolutely no need to insult the fans. He could have gone on to do his job in a professional manner but instead he chose to try and make himself more popular with the scousers by saying the things they wanted to hear and because of that he will always be a cunt as far as I'm concerned.

Anyway, he is the Chelsea manager now and while I don't exactly like him, I am willing to give him a proper chance. However, if he fucks up that chance, I will be among the first to call for the cunt's head on a platter.

[Backstreet09 499]

How does that change anything? Of course he wasn't going to say anything good about Chelsea when he was managing a rival club but why even get involved then? I understand why he sometimes used to slate our players (calling Drogba a diver for example) but there was absolutely no need to insult the fans. He could have gone on to do his job in a professional manner but instead he chose to try and make himself more popular with the scousers by saying the things they wanted to hear and because of that he will always be a cunt as far as I'm concerned.

Anyway, he is the Chelsea manager now and while I don't exactly like him, I am willing to give him a proper chance. However, if he fucks up that chance, I will be among the first to call for the cunt's head on a platter.

I remember we fans did something that made him say that , every action has a reaction lol

[poojam 10]

Some Angry fans Calling Abramovich A ''C***'' Because Di Matteo was Sacked. ''AND'' They Said that Abramovich Must Leave Because The way He Treated Di Matteo A Chelsea Legend.! Look I Was A Bit Pissed off From What Happened But Please if Di Matteo is A Chelsea Legend What The Hell is Roman Abramovich to Chelsea. And now You Got Fans Saying They Wont's Chelsea to Lose Games.?????

Di Matteo is Walking Away with His Head Held high With A ''fa Cup'' and ''Champion League'' Title under His Belt and With A few Million in His Pocket.!!

there's always a brighter tomorrow my season starts now!! CHELSEA NEEDS US to fight with the club NOT to leave and let Chelsea fend for themselves to be killed by rivals. ''ha ha''

[Kez 2,727]

I'm going to refer to Rafa as the fat one, in a light hearted manner of course. I'm bored of the Rafa protests already. I was pissed off when he got the job but I'm over it now, Roman doesn't actually give one tiny fuck what the fans think he's clearly shown that.

I actually think we're going to have a good season either way though you know he'll be gone in 6 months so just grin and bare it!

[Fulham Broadway 17,339]

I'm going to refer to Rafa as the fat one, in a light hearted manner of course. I'm bored of the Rafa protests already. I was pissed off when he got the job but I'm over it now, Roman doesn't actually give one tiny fuck what the fans think he's clearly shown that.

I actually think we're going to have a good season either way though you know he'll be gone in 6 months so just grin and bare it!

Agree K, doesnt help the results at all but I understand the sentiment

Quality Booooage yesterday

[super_frank8 186]


You'll have to count me as part of the 'minority' who wanted to support the players on the pitch and the work Robbie did, instead of abusing the guy who (like it or not) is in charge of the team now.

The guy who has to go in to work tomorrow and try and make a team out of guys who almost certainly heard some of the abuse he got.

I understand emotions were running high, but hopefully the fans who did abuse him got it out of their system and can maybe get back to supporting the players on the pitch in the next home game.

Roman got the message - he actually already knew and still did it because he figured it would be best for the club going forward. He also probably expected the booing and the banners (poor arts and craft skills from the fans who wanted to protest Rafa - apparently the only thing they hated more than Benitez was Art Attack).


Now this is where I don't understand so many of you constantly going back to the same nonsensical raptures of 'we're not supporting the team if we're not supporting Rafa'

Let me ask you something...

How many times have you actually gone & sat/stood in the crowd at The Bridge?

Because from the evidence you have provided me with, you clearly don't understand nor appreciate the actual dynamic & experience of being at a live football fixture - pouring your heart & soul into the team you unconditionally love above all others in existence; entirely regardless of results/style/image/players/MANAGER or anything else that ultimately doesn't actually affect who you affectionately call 'your team' at the end of the day.

I will never stop supporting this football club, no matter what, & I will never hold another club in the same regard, no matter what; so long as blood runs through my veins. When you have dedicated every single last drop of your passion & allegiance definitively to a single club - & that single club only - it is a contract of integrity that you take to the fucking grave my friend. An unbreakable bond. An undying vow. An eternal love. A lifelong commitment - with greater sanctity than that of marriage or any other mutual agreement of the sort.

If we bought Anton Ferdinand & hired Andre Villas-Boas to work in some twisted hybrid partnership with our obese hispanic food expert, & were simultaneously relegated, whilst losing to Liverpool 6-5 in the 123rd minute of the Champions League final to a 'ghost goal' that didn't actually cross the line - & it all happened within a week - I would still 100% support the same club I do today.

However, supporting the club doesn't mean blindly accepting decisions you do not agree with. It is a mutual agreement for a reason, because you have given your heart (as well as your hard earned money) to the club, consequently the club are expected to take your best interests into consideration & listen to what you want too; or at the very least they are expected to know what will cause complete & utter disrepute amongst the masses. That is why the events at Stamford Bridge unfolded, because we - as the fans who have taken up this life-long commitment & essentially allow the club to exist & function as it does - have been failed by the club; & thus the contract has been breached once again. Therefore we have a right to voice our issues with this by any means we may see fit. We are what enables the club to exist in the first place, & are the only way it will continue to expand as exponentially as it has done, so they owe you the right to at the very least consider what & how you as a fan may feel about the decisions that they make.

So of course when we believe such a grave injustice has been committed, it is more than our place to make our genuine honest thoughts known. The reason we possess & voice these feelings, is because we do in fact care - & care so much that we simply refuse to sit on the sidelines & watch as the name of the club we love is being desecrated in such a manner. & how else are we supposed to make such thoughts abundantly clear to those who need to hear them - besides singing at the top of our lungs in the stands at The Bridge - the place where it matters the most. To be perfectly honest with you, in reality I'm really not that bothered about RDM being given the boot, he had a poor run of results & it comes as no surprise to me given past evidence that Roman has sacked him sooner rather than later. What does bother me however is who has been chosen to replace him. It is only in a single cataclysmically shocking action that this almost universal disrepute lies - & that is in the appointment of the one they call 'Rafa'.

What so many of you don't seem to be able to grasp with all of this 'you're not getting behind the team' bullshit is that RAFA IS NOT PART OF THE FUCKING TEAM & HE NEVER WILL BE. Not in my eyes, & not in the eyes of any True Blue - as was demonstrated so valiantly yesterday. He has disgraced this football club with words that have only come from his mouth & his mouth only - how long ago it was said is completely irrelevant - because the fact is that he said it. Insulting the club that you adore & cherish is an unforgivable act of blasphemy that is NEVER forgotten, no matter what. He has shown his true colours on multiple occasions as anyone who was around in the Mourinho days can attest, & so he is a proven cunt of the highest degree; & thus deserves to be treated as such. Any Chelsea fan who respects themselves & their club would be entirely disillusioned with such an appointment, & evidently there are plenty who have made that clear to the world already. What has been said in the past, doesn't mean it doesn't apply in the present - history is forever - & Rafa's words will always be remembered by the Chelsea faithful; no matter what he achieves.

& it is ridiculous that you think that this treatment will somehow affect the morale of our players, either directly or indirectly, because they fucking know that they're not the ones that we're pissed off at. Maybe Torres is the exception to that due to his sheer lack of efficacy & performance, but that is more frustration rather than unbridled animosity, & even so I'm still completely behind him in hoping he does somehow return to his former glory. The players aren't the ones we are shouting at, & I'm sure that they have managed to deduce that themselves purely from the nature of the chants. We will still cheer their names & herald their achievements as the champions that they are, because they are the ones who will actually make the difference on the pitch. But supporting them, the actual team, is vastly different to supporting the manager who has been found guilty of such disgusting discrimination directly towards THE FANS, PLAYERS, & LEGENDS OF THIS CLUB. You're kidding yourself if you think anyone in the dressing room is really going to give half a flying fuck about a manager who notoriously refuses to invest himself in a personal connection with the players on any level - I'm pretty sure they would be joining in if they were in the crowd with us.

You can try to make the point that Roman's decisions are Roman's decisions & ultimately we all just have to deal with that. But he simply cannot get away with undermining our clubs very own integrity & morals by appointing the most despised Spaniard on Fulham Road as our manager. Not without being made fully aware of the consequences.

& sure, we're used to the hierarchy making choices without actually consulting fans, at the end of the day you have to live with that no matter what - but it sure as hell doesn't mean you have to be quiet about it.

[lengthwise 17]

hehe, thats great!

[Tomo 21,751]

looking at the reaction of few people around here you might get an impression it's 1984.

It might aswell be 1984 the amount of fans at all clubs who can't get with the times, even one's who weren't born "back in the day" are pining for that era.

[Manuf 1,448]

It might aswell be 1984 the amount of fans at all clubs who can't get with the times, even one's who weren't born "back in the day" are pining for that era.

i'm talking about Orwell's book..

[Tomo 21,751]

Roman doesn't actually give one tiny fuck what the fans think he's clearly shown that.

If he "gave a fuck" what we think, Ancelotti would not have turned up, so no double with 103 goals. Also if "he gave a fuck" what we thought, Ranieri would never have got sacked, meaning consequently no Mourinho.

He does what he thinks is best and right for the club, no fans will complain if Rafa delivers success, infact we will probably all backtrack and pretend we never said anything bad about him in a similar way we do with Ashley Cole now. He may have said not nice things about us in the past but boy we gave it back to him and then some.

[super_frank8 186]

If he "gave a fuck" what we think, Ancelotti would not have turned up, so no double with 103 goals. Also if "he gave a fuck" what we thought, Ranieri would never have got sacked, meaning consequently no Mourinho.

He does what he thinks is best and right for the club, no fans will complain if Rafa delivers success, infact we will probably all backtrack and pretend we never said anything bad about him in a similar way we do with Ashley Cole now. He may have said not nice things about us in the past but boy we gave it back to him and then some.

You're a fool if you think Roman doesn't give a fuck about what we think. He ultimately does, because he wants the same success for the club that we as fans desire - & in the end we are the ones who keep the gate receipts rolling & the merchandise from the megastore flowing, along with TV rights & all sorts of other global intiatives. As 'supporters' of this club, we are indeed quite literally supporting the club in both moral & financial aspects. Roman may be a business tycoon, but he has shown that he loves football too, else he wouldn't have invested 10 years & countless millions into the club - & in order for his business model to succeed & flourish the way that he undoubtedly wants it to - HE NEEDS US. & therefore he cannot expect us to blindly accept the choices we do not agree with.

What you don't seem to understand is that this situation is not by any means the same or even remotely similar to those you have outlined above. We are talking about a man who is universally hated by the Chelsea faithful, an enitrely depolorable individual who has had the unthinkable audacity to publicly & directly insult players & legends as well as the club & it's most committed fans - & has now somehow been deemed deserving of being appointed as our manager. It is nothing to do with RDM being sacked (for me at least) because I do somewhat understand Roman's logic & appetite for progress & success & RDM had failed to cut the mustard this month - so that wasn't a big surprise. However, what I cannot fathom for the life of me is why he has chosen this overweight rambling piece of shit that he should (by now most definitely) be well aware is regarded by Chelsea fans as nothing more than bottom-of-the-barrel scum, at best. THAT is what we are pissed off about.

Success is irrelevant in this situation when our pride & integrity has been shattered & defiled - & by constantly indicating that the results are what we should be supporting - you really are showing your true colours as a supposed 'fan'. Of course we want the team to do well, to succeed in every way possible - however, if that somehow translates to you as 'supporting the manager we hate' - well myself, & I would imagine the majority of others, are simply not willing to sacrifice our own beliefs & principles just for that.

I think some of you are far too quick to forgive those who do not deserve it...whether that indicates that your allegiances are not what you claim them to be or if it is simply a case of being a more recent supporter who isn't quite able to comprehend this issue - I can't be sure. But suggesting that these are all enitrely hollow words that I will be 'back-tracking' on? Possibly meaning to suggest that I am the spineless 'fan' you seem to be? Well good luck with that mate... I live & breath for this club - you will never see me singing Rafa's praises no matter what he does.

[Tomo 21,751]

@super_frank8, I was making the point theat Kez made about the owner not giving a fuck what we think, which is why i put it in inverted commers.

The end of the day he will do what he thinks is right for the club like you said whether that means agreeing with us or not, because if he listened to the majority off us in 2009, he would stayed well away from Carlo. Ultimately he will do what he thinks makes us successful and is quite often proven to be right, who was prepared to give AVB more time? well in hindsight if he did he would have cost us the CL.

[VIALLI 9]

What was going through Romans head sacking Roberto for Rafa. I will never understand it.