The Benitez Thread

[Sheva. 5,373]

This is Fernando Torres FC.

Benetez got the sack at Inter after 6 months and this is the guy to lead our team? He won only 12 of 25 Games with the European Chmpions then....

I'm expecting the worst. I dispise Torres. Lets give him more time he doesn't deserve in our team.

It is not. People just love making everything about Torres, i can't wait till that guy leaves.

[We Hate Scouse 10,286]

It's here, it's there, it's every fucking where, pessimism, pessimism

[Danelka 209]

This is Fernando Torres FC.

Benetez got the sack at Inter after 6 months and this is the guy to lead our team? He won only 12 of 25 Games with the European Chmpions then....

I'm expecting the worst. I dispise Torres. Lets give him more time he doesn't deserve in our team.

Oh yeah, what does Torres think of himself?

It wasn't enough for him to cause a worldwide economic crisis, starting hurricane Sandy, rocketing the oil prices, he even sacked Robbie and appointed Benitez.

When will he stop?

[TheCount 146]

Ok here's a situation...

Being a nice guy, respected etc does not keep you in a job if your boss thinks you are not up to the task.

Happens to millions of people every day and is what happened here.

As you don't have a crystal ball, like me, you have no idea what the future holds.

So you have 2 choices:

1) support CFC as an entity and move on and get behind the team

2) stop supporting CFC

It really is that simple....

Stupid options, we the fans can say and think what we want, in fact if we all have to just agree with everything roman does and get on with it, why even bother having this forum.

Also i didnt say being nice and respected keeps you the job, i said on this forum, for example, RDM was barely in charge when people were going "he's not right for the job" yet this wanker comes and everyones saying "oh well better get on with it" Wtf kind of bollix is that? Double standards that.

No one is asking you to like him.

It would just be nice if we didn't fuck over our players chances to win games by creating a shitty atmosphere.

It won't change Roman's mind either because the guy thinks he's doing the right thing in order to make Chelsea successful. He's not an idiot. He knows how Chelsea fans feel about this guy but in his opinion it was the right move.

Rafa Benitez is Chelsea manager for six months. There ain't a banner in the world that will change that, unless it's one written by Pep Guardiola that says 'I fancy managing a football team again'.

It'll at least show roman that the fans at least unhappy with his decision and he needs us more then he needs Rafa if their was any kind of a boycott of the club, the fans are important we still need to fill the ground buy the shirts etc. Maybe it would do nothing, but why not? We've booed managers not half as bad.

In what way would shouting "Rafa out!" would help/support Chelsea?

You don't have to like him, but shouting things like that instead of encouraging the players during matches doesn't really help.

A game is 90mins, 10 mins of Rafa out and One di matteo before settling into the game wouldnt kill anyone.

[Belgiannutt 3,201]

Why are all these people giving out about not supporting the fat cunt,

De matteo was barely in charge when their was treads calling him out as not being good enough and we need someone eles and he was someone almost everyone liked and respected, and this dickhead comes in who's almost entirely hated by chelsea fans and half the world of football fans and we have to like him? fuck off.

Just because this fat cunt is the manager dont mean jack to me. I support the club and the players and the fans, i support chelsea, and just because i support chelsea means i have to agree with every decision and get behind the clowns that made it and the clown the put in place? no it does not.

Rafa fucking out and shout it from the stands and the terraces lads, tell roman how it is, maybe just maybe if the fans say enough this time, it'll stop or at least help.

Ever stop to think how this would affect the team ?

How this would affect the atmosphere in which our players have to perform?

Just get behind the team. Put the teams best interest in front of your own damaged sense of pride and support the team. That's what a good supporter does. A good supporter doesn't stir things up when the club itself is already in a turmoil.

[Muzchap 8,966]

Stupid options, we the fans can say and think what we want, in fact if we all have to just agree with everything roman does and get on with it, why even bother having this forum.

Also i didnt say being nice and respected keeps you the job, i said on this forum, for example, RDM was barely in charge when people were going "he's not right for the job" yet this wanker comes and everyones saying "oh well better get on with it" Wtf kind of bollix is that? Double standards that.

It'll at least show roman that the fans at least unhappy with his decision and he needs us more then he needs Rafa if their was any kind of a boycott of the club, the fans are important we still need to fill the ground buy the shirts etc. Maybe it would do nothing, but why not? We've booed managers not half as bad.

A game is 90mins, 10 mins of Rafa out and One di matteo before settling into the game wouldnt kill anyone.

Hmm we are called Supporters...

It's not actually our club

The thing with double standards is that they exist everywhere!!!

Roman was a hero a few months ago, now he's a piece of shit?

See the dilemma?

Hence my post is saying, just go with the flow... Chanting at the game will disrupt our players - that's a FACT

[Slam Dunk 1,442]

Oh yeah, what does Torres think of himself?

It wasn't enough for him to cause a worldwide economic crisis, starting hurricane Sandy, rocketing the oil prices, he even sacked Robbie and appointed Benitez.

When will he stop?

[The only place to be 11,313]

It'll at least show roman that the fans at least unhappy with his decision and he needs us more then he needs Rafa if their was any kind of a boycott of the club, the fans are important we still need to fill the ground buy the shirts etc. Maybe it would do nothing, but why not? We've booed managers not half as bad.

He knows we're unhappy and he doesn't care. He's doing what he think is best for the club and when he's done that in the past, I've had some pretty big smiles on my face.

No-one is happy with this situation, but I don't want an even worse one in six months. Roman's long-term plan is to have Guardiola, a world-class young team and a new stadium. He's accepting some short-term discomfort to get there.

[TheCount 146]

Hmm we are called Supporters...

It's not actually our club

The thing with double standards is that they exist everywhere!!!

Roman was a hero a few months ago, now he's a piece of shit?

See the dilemma?

Hence my post is saying, just go with the flow... Chanting at the game will disrupt our players - that's a FACT

I never said roman was a hero, you keep using this example but it simply dosent apply.

I was grateful for his money when he came, i was grateful for his business side to help the club.

But I have NEVER been happy with his input on the football side of it all, all his decision have been muck.

Handing out money to someone who knows better isnt being a legend, a savior maybe but an ill informed and egotistical one at that.

Also the rest of your post is just aload of bollix. Your fine with RDM threads calling for his head from the start but not rafa, strange "fans" we have.

[We Hate Scouse 10,286]

Also i didnt say being nice and respected keeps you the job, i said on this forum, for example, RDM was barely in charge when people were going "he's not right for the job" yet this wanker comes and everyones saying "oh well better get on with it" Wtf kind of bollix is that? Double standards that.

Hardly double standards. Rafa has proved himself as a football manager. Ask WBA fans what they think of RDM, they'll tell you he was nothing special.

The blokes a legend and will always be remembered at the Bridge and I don't agree with the way he was sacked but he was never the man to take us forward.

It'll at least show roman that the fans at least unhappy with his decision and he needs us more then he needs Rafa if their was any kind of a boycott of the club, the fans are important we still need to fill the ground buy the shirts etc. Maybe it would do nothing, but why not? We've booed managers not half as bad.

And what did it achieve? Nothing. In 99% of cases it has made the team play worse and the manager has gone on to be sacked. Great, then what?

A game is 90mins, 10 mins of Rafa out and One di matteo before settling into the game wouldnt kill anyone.

Are you retarded? It would totally destroy the players morale. We'd have no fight or desire to win the game.

It's ridiculous it's childish and it's spoilt.

[Jack Uzzi 54]

TX has a point though. RDM knew the score before he took the job. I think deep down he knew he wouldn't last more than a year anyway, which is why i'm sure he waited to accept a 2 year deal rather than a rolling contract. This doesn't mean RDM doesn't love the club, anyone would've done the same.

Benitez is a better manager than Di Matteo as well, you can't argue against that. Loving the club doesn't make you a better manager, it makes you a more likeable manager. Di Matteo handled the shit this club threw at him with a quiet dignity and grace that we shouldn't forget. Off the field, he was a fantastic representative for the club, when it comes to games however, his flaws were obvious.

That being said, I don't agree that we're in as bad a spell as the club obviously sees it. It's not easy to restructure a CL winning squad and still maintain a high level of success. All we're doing here is postponing transition, and it's been going on for years. The board are the ones that need examining, not the managers.

I won't argue with the fact that Benitez is a better manager than Di Matteo. Although I kind of want to believe that RDM had the necessary skills to be at Chelsea for many years to come. I also want to believe that is something you want to see as a fan: a coach that is supported by the board. Will that ever by the case at Chelsea?

This dismissal is so arbitrary, driving home the message in a very painful way that the decisions at Chelsea are being taken by one person in an irrational manner, without much long term thinking or respect for fans. If Abramovich did not really want to give DM the job, why not already give it to Benitez in the summer. I mean, there seems to be a degree of irrationality within his already irrational decision making. Maybe that makes him insane?

After the next game these things may be forgotten of course. The focus will be on the positive things that Benitez will bring to the job ... but then again, he signed a contract until the end of year, after which there will be another round of trying to bring Guardiola to the club. If those rumours are true, I find it a rather pathetic situation for one person to put himself and his club in.

[magicrico 175]

Oh yeah, what does Torres think of himself?

It wasn't enough for him to cause a worldwide economic crisis, starting hurricane Sandy, rocketing the oil prices, he even sacked Robbie and appointed Benitez.

When will he stop?

Hold on noone is going overboard at all by saying he's dogshit....Cause he is exactly that. Everyone has given him time, too much time. He's performed below par which everyone knows....Does everyone really think that RB appointment has NOTHING to do with Torres at all?

Torres hasn't asked for this to happen but why should he start ANY games for us considering he's been utterly abysmal?

But watch him start every game...It's a joke.

[TheCount 146]

Are you retarded? It would totally destroy the players morale. We'd have no fight or desire to win the game.

It's ridiculous it's childish and it's spoilt.

Do you honestly think who's charge makes a fuck of a difference to the players at this stage?

Everything roman has done has just made sure that listening or not listening to the manager dosent matter.

He could of put anyone in and he put the one man no one wanted. Thats the problem.

[We Hate Scouse 10,286]

Do you honestly think who's charge makes a fuck of a difference to the players at this stage?

Yes. Next stupid question.

[Hutcho 8,443]

Hardly double standards. Rafa has proved himself as a football manager. Ask WBA fans what they think of RDM, they'll tell you he was nothing special.

The blokes a legend and will always be remembered at the Bridge and I don't agree with the way he was sacked but he was never the man to take us forward.

And what did it achieve? Nothing. In 99% of cases it has made the team play worse and the manager has gone on to be sacked. Great, then what?

Are you retarded? It would totally destroy the players morale. We'd have no fight or desire to win the game.

It's ridiculous it's childish and it's spoilt.

Exactly, this is the thing that is extremely important. If we as the fans stop singing in support of the team and start singing in hatred of the manager then that is definitely not a positive for the players, which after all is the most important thing. It also puts them in an awkward position which we strongly want to avoid. At the game supporting the team has to go first. You don't have to be a rocket scientist to work out that we all are not particularly big fans of rafa so really chanting about benitez isn't gonna make people sit up and go "REALLY??? THEY DON'T LIKE RAFA????" Especially when we are playing against Man city which is obviously a huge game for us in the league.

[Danelka 209]

Hold on noone is going overboard at all by saying he's dogshit....Cause he is exactly that. Everyone has given him time, too much time. He's performed below par which everyone knows....Does everyone really think that RB appointment has NOTHING to do with Torres at all?

Torres hasn't asked for this to happen but why should he start ANY games for us considering he's been utterly abysmal?

But watch him start every game...It's a joke.

Yes, he is shit, there is no denial in that.

But it's ridiculous that people think he is the reason every time we lose, or something shit happens to the club.

Just Because we appointed Benitez, who happens to be his former coach, it doens't mean it's because of him.

But I'm courius, which coach would you have appointed? (Excluding Pep, who is on holiday, and impossible names like Mourinho, Klopp, etc.)

[DavidEU 2,023]

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[Milan 17,853]