coolhead23 1,147 Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 How to beat ChelseaAccording to the Atletico Madrid managerAtletico Madrid boss Diego Simeone has explained to Juventus how to stop Champions League opponents Chelsea.The Old Lady will travel to London later this month on their return to Europe’s premier club competition.And after thrashing Chelsea 4-1 in the recent European Super Cup tie, Simeonehas revealed their game plan.“The players followed my orders to perfection,” the former Lazio and Inter midfielder stated. “Branislav Ivanovic on the right can be surpassed, Mikel plays horizontally, Gary Cahill and David Luiz never participate in the construction of the game.“So we opted to press heavily, even doubling up and tripling up on FrankLampard, Eden Hazard and Juan Mata – opting to neglect the others.“It was a risk that paid off. Juventus can do the same, even if boss Antonio Contedoesn’t need my advice.“He’s a winner, like Manchester City’s Roberto Mancini, as well as the greatest of them all – Jose Mourinho.”http://sillyseason.com/football/premier-league/chelsea-fc/articles/how-beat-chelseaMaybe this was just one off .... but it makes sense. Interesting review from the opposition manager (not an reliable site though) Thoughts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 So he noticed that anyone with pace can surpass Branna? Ok its confirmed, hes a fucking genius. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 perhaps RDM should tell Diego how to beat Barcelona Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 Everything that he said makes sense. Aggressive pressure on our midfield has often worked for the opponents, because we are often static and slow in that department, hence the frequent backpasses to goalkeeper, who has no other option but to hoof it and we naturally lose the ball without DD. To counter it we should start exploiting the spaces left in the final third by their high press more effectively, which other teams often do against us when we go further up - a quick pass to the striker/attacking midfielder/winger and quick combinations in front of the backline without giving them chance to properly recover.That is the reason why I think Mikel and Lampard pivot isn't a permanent solution - Lampard, when under pressure, can't hold onto the ball and opts for the safe backpass... while Mikel, who can hold on, plays mostly horizontally or not quick enough directly, so the opponents can drop back and anticipate the forward pass, in which case we need to start playing positional attack again, which hinders our quick new attacking players in a congested area and tempo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FormerRussianSpy 163 Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 The bits about Mikel playing horizontally and Lampard folding when pressed are spot on, but I'm more than sure that Robbie would've noticed those problems too. Onwards and upwards boys... no reason to dwell on a game where the lack of fight and care in our players played as big a role as the tactics of the opposition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capriccioso 2,545 Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 Let them press.We'll play Ramires up front and hoof it up to him. His speed will exploit the gaps they leave behind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amblève. 4,995 Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 The primary reason we lost was our attitude. If the players gave a single fuck it would've been a completely different game, and I doubt Simeone would be talking now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 Don't get this Simeone guy, he states obvious facts and makes out hes fucking Einstein. Tell me what midfielders don't play a safe pass/loose the ball when pressured heavily by two or more players, they all either do the safe thing or end up loosing the ball. Hes just done the logical thing and pressurized our team, which most teams try to do now since Barca and Spain have came to prominence doing it. NOT LIKE HES FUCKING CAME UP WITH THE IDEA HIMSELF, WHAT A DICKHEAD. Anyway its not like hes tactically masterminded how to beat Barca (despite having 10 men and being 2-0 down at the Nou Camp) or win the CL final despite being second best in the whole game..... is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 Doesn't take a genius to work out what Atletico Madrid did really. Their game plan was pretty simple and our non-show on the day just made it all the more easier for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 The primary reason we lost was our attitude. If the players gave a single fuck it would've been a completely different game, and I doubt Simeone would be talking now.You miss the point. This game was one of many in the last ~2 years. We often look lost against big teams with established game plans. Too often I've heard commentators saying we play without purpose or direction, I don't like to hear that but I can't disagree with it either. I don't think it's solely about attitude, and even if it is, then our players' mentality is too complacent. We get to point A again, because we haven't had a manager who's had a chance to establish his style. And somewhy when we hit a rocky patch, it's really bad and hard to get out of. Our team has been too inconsistent in the last few years, we can play either brilliantly or terribly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
termninja 5,290 Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 perhaps RDM should tell Diego how to beat Barcelona Nah, only Chelsea can do that The way to beat Chelsea is to get their players disinterested in the match. That's how Athletico beat us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 Do you really have to put that up?!! :rant: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheva. 5,373 Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 "Branislav Ivanovic on the right can be surpassed" So true, so sad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 http://www.football-italia.net/24751/simeone-how-beat-chelseaOk nevermind, looks what Simeone said was real. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
termninja 5,290 Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 Do you really have to put that up?!! :rant: That's how you beat Chelsea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amblève. 4,995 Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 You miss the point. This game was one of many in the last ~2 years. We often look lost against big teams with established game plans. Too often I've heard commentators saying we play without purpose or direction, I don't like to hear that but I can't disagree with it either. I don't think it's solely about attitude, and even if it is, then our players' mentality is too complacent. We get to point A again, because we haven't had a manager who's had a chance to establish his style. And somewhy when we hit a rocky patch, it's really bad and hard to get out of. Our team has been too inconsistent in the last few years, we can play either brilliantly or terribly.I agree with your point about our game plan.But as I already said, I highly doubt it would have been the same game if our players really cared about winning. Scenes like the one in which Cahill just let the opponent slip away without even really bothering about that we could concede another goal finish me off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warnie_666 1,081 Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 You could see the commentators harping on the attitude of Chelsea players. They constantly pointed out that even though it is a friendly of sorts Chelsea players dont seem too interested while on the other hand Atl. madrid look like they r up for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 I agree with your point about our game plan.But as I already said, I highly doubt it would have been the same game if our players really cared about winning. Scenes like the one in which Cahill just let the opponent slip away without even really bothering about that we could concede another goal finish me off.Think that was Ivanovic, not Cahill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 perhaps RDM should tell Diego how to beat Barcelona Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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