BlueLion. 21,491 Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Moses had good games where his movement did cause problems for the opponents, but he also had games where he was completely ineffective. As the season unfolds, we will find out what his role is, because right now he *is* a fringe player; good option for second half when fullbacks are tired.Same for every player in world football, Messi and Ronaldo included. On a more local scale you can look at games where Torres and Hazard have done absolutely nothing, but as they are megastars, they avoid all criticisms.So, you've all made up your minds based on a handfull games, some in which he's come off the bench in the second half, but I'm the misguided one?! Our attack has been pathetic since Benitez joined and Moses has been part of that (according to the previous poster), so no, I expect far more from him as well as the rest of the team.I hope you are right and I'm the one missing the greatness you see in him, but I just don't see him providing enough quality to become a starter for Chelsea, at least not yet.No, we've made our minds up of the 8 starts and seven substitute appearances he's made this season. If we're going by your logic, are we not allowed to have opinions on players if they have only played a few games? If that's the case I ban you from talking about Frank Lampard, Daniel Sturridge and John Terry, because the three of them have played less minutes than Moses has this season. SeB 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 is he counted as English ? as he doesnt play for England anymoreYes. The home grown applies to him. I think they have to have trained in England for 3 years before their 21st birthday. underdrog 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kieran. 6,317 Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Drop one of the three AMs for Moses every game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzchap 8,966 Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 So, you've all made up your minds based on a handfull games, some in which he's come off the bench in the second half, but I'm the misguided one?! Our attack has been pathetic since Benitez joined and Moses has been part of that (according to the previous poster), so no, I expect far more from him as well as the rest of the team.I hope you are right and I'm the one missing the greatness you see in him, but I just don't see him providing enough quality to become a starter for Chelsea, at least not yet.Our attack has been pathetic since RB joined?Like seriously, how many games you been watching?We have scored 9 goals in 2 games?Our defence is conceding less and our overall shape and organisation have been much better.The loss of Romeu in first 20 mins against Sunderland hurt the team, but we still won!Think you need to go back and watch some matches - or stop drinking heavily... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 The best thing is how he's come in and just done the basics right. Of course it helps that there wasn't much hype because of the excitement we had with Oscar & Hazard, but he's just putting all his feet right.. He's not over thinking, he just does. Gives Azpilicueta/Ivanovic great support, he's not selfish & he's direct. Something we've missing. I like how Rafa's also keeping him fresh by either starting him, then taking him off when the job's done or even bringing him off the bench.Hope Marin makes the same impact soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corner 456 Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 The best thing is how he's come in and just done the basics right. Of course it helps that there wasn't much hype because of the excitement we had with Oscar & Hazard, but he's just putting all his feet right.. He's not over thinking, he just does. Gives Azpilicueta/Ivanovic great support, he's not selfish & he's direct. Something we've missing. I like how Rafa's also keeping him fresh by either starting him, then taking him off when the job's done or even bringing him off the bench.Hope Marin makes the same impact soon.Couldn't agree more.Moses is like a gun. Direct, straight to the point, no nonsense and if you use him correctly he will be lethal. Green Lantern18 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Our attack has been pathetic since RB joined?Like seriously, how many games you been watching?We have scored 9 goals in 2 games?Our defence is conceding less and our overall shape and organisation have been much better.The loss of Romeu in first 20 mins against Sunderland hurt the team, but we still won!Think you need to go back and watch some matches - or stop drinking heavily...Well by the time I wrote my post that was the case. The team has been improving, but we like to talk about individual players instead; it's way more fun. Muzchap 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzchap 8,966 Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Well by the time I wrote my post that was the case. The team has been improving, but we like to talk about individual players instead; it's way more fun.Fair enough As long as we play Moses against teams in red, we'll always have a chance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLion. 21,491 Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 Couldn't agree more.Moses is like a gun. Direct, straight to the point, no nonsense and if you use him correctly he will be lethal.Absolutely. The complete opposite of Gael 'I must nutmeg everybody' Kakuta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,571 Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 Happy Birthday!!!!!!! Wiz Kebbeh, underdrog and Mufassir08 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeboii 1,844 Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 Will be a loss when he goes to the Cup Of Nations Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meetdoscar 335 Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 BEAST!!! MOTM for me was always looking dangerous right from the start and scored exactly the kind of goal I've been expecting from hazard or torres but not seen yet. How much did we pay 4 dis guy???Wat a steal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 Well, this thread is fairly inactive, so Victor must be doing good with team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Styles 9,790 Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 Fast becoming one of my favourite players in the current squad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndersonBLUE 819 Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 I knew he would be great here, rated him at Wigan and do now at Chelsea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Madmax 9,219 Posted December 20, 2012 Popular Post! Share Posted December 20, 2012 Doesn't he make you glad we told Porto to GTFO with their 40m Hulk valuation? Corner, SeB, Sheva. and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheva. 5,373 Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 He had a bad game on Sunday and people were quick to criticize him and especially Benitez for starting him - when he's been good in most other games and was again last night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KonohasOrangeFlash 2,607 Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 Still don't think he's very good yet. Plus side is, he was very cheap and he is surprisingly young. He seems to be growing but there's still quite a way to go if he is to become a key player. Wiz Kebbeh and Henrique 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Styles 9,790 Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 Doesn't he make you glad we told Porto to GTFO with their 40m Hulk valuation?If only we did that with Liverpool/Torres eh? zolayes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 Will be a loss when he goes to the Cup Of NationsSHIT forgot he was off to that with Mikel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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