🇪🇸 César Azpilicueta

[Unionjack 7,531]

19 hours ago, MoroccanBlue said:

Oh well I guess that settles it then! 

No worries lads they apologised! Cant wait for the Instagram posts midweek to show how ready they are for United. 

Fuck. Every. One. Of you. 

Honestly cant fathom how you lot can look at yourselves in the mirror after this. 

They will have gone down to Willians and Lluizs restaurant after they got back to tell each other it wasn't their fault. 

Using Edens phrase - I don't care what the manager says I  think I  played well!

[Special Juan 28,141]

I'd buy a RB this summer too, CA just doesn't cut it for me, very average.

[MoroccanBlue 5,382]

6 minutes ago, Mana said:

What has happened to Azpi? WTF. He was one of our great defenders a few years ago, WTF!!!

Can't believe how poor he is this season. WTF!

I can see why Spain never select him to start. Fairly average footballer. 

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38 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said:

I can see why Spain never select him to start. Fairly average footballer. 

Very true unfortunately. Azpi thrives in certain type of tactical systems and clearly Sarriball (or any kind of possession-based tactic) isn't one of them

[Jase 43,479]

With the exception of this season, Azpi has always been a solid and consistent performer for us. It's genuinely crazy how some have become so suddenly dismissive of him.  There are bigger issues to worry about than Azpi at the moment.

[Clockwork 1,794]

28 minutes ago, Jason said:

With the exception of this season, Azpi has always been a solid and consistent performer for us. It's genuinely crazy how some have become so suddenly dismissive of him.  There are bigger issues to worry about than Azpi at the moment.

He is one of the issues though, and his position should absolutely not be safe. As others have there is a reason that Azpi has been seldomly selected for Spain, despite the ample of managers they have had over the years. He just doesn't fit this type of football as a RB.

I think he could still be an effective squad player, but he is absolutely one of the tough decisions the manager has to make. He is getting close to 30, and has played as much minutes as anyone in Europe over the past few years. That has undoubtedly accumulated.  

[Jase 43,479]

Just now, Clockwork said:

He is one of the issues though, and his position should absolutely not be safe. As others have there is a reason that Azpi has been seldomly selected for Spain, despite the ample of managers they have had over the years. He just doesn't fit this type of football as a RB.

Sure but that's assuming we stick with this tiki-taka football and a manager who doesn't quite know how to sort out the defence!

[Clockwork 1,794]

9 minutes ago, Jason said:

Sure but that's assuming we stick with this tiki-taka football and a manager who doesn't quite know how to sort out the defence!

Well i am assuming with Sarri or no Sarri this is the direction the club wants to go. But no doubt it would be the most Chelsea thing to do, and we hire Simeone or a similar manager. 

[Blue Armour 4,439]

2 hours ago, Jason said:

With the exception of this season, Azpi has always been a solid and consistent performer for us. It's genuinely crazy how some have become so suddenly dismissive of him.  There are bigger issues to worry about than Azpi at the moment.

I will admit though, he is a great player and our best defender IMO.

But he is absolutely POOR at organizing the rest of our defense. I would argue that even Cahill would do a better job in that regard. We are lacking someone like JT to organize that back line.

It takes more than 'passion' and love of the club to be a good leader.

[Jase 43,479]

3 hours ago, Blue Armour said:

But he is absolutely POOR at organizing the rest of our defense. I would argue that even Cahill would do a better job in that regard. We are lacking someone like JT to organize that back line.

Azpi is POOR at organizing our defence? Okay, let's not exaggerate things because of what's going on this season. Go back to previous seasons and you will definitely see Azpi organizing defences etc. And do you really think Terry was THE reason we had solid defences in the past because he was shouting and screaming at others? No. Sure, he did organize our defence and all that but he also had capable and reliable defenders, with everyone in back four working as a unit. Is that really the case now? Expecting Azpi to look out for himself and babysit others for 90 minutes every game is a bit much, don't you think? You have Alonso who is just super slow and bad, Luiz who god knows what you're going to get in each game and Rudiger who can be a little suspect at times. Questions should be asked of the others as well, especially when some see the likes of Luiz as a leader!

[communicate 2,703]

7 hours ago, Clockwork said:

He is one of the issues though, and his position should absolutely not be safe. As others have there is a reason that Azpi has been seldomly selected for Spain, despite the ample of managers they have had over the years. He just doesn't fit this type of football as a RB.

I think he could still be an effective squad player, but he is absolutely one of the tough decisions the manager has to make. He is getting close to 30, and has played as much minutes as anyone in Europe over the past few years. That has undoubtedly accumulated.  

I am not sure Azpi is a problem for us. He is not good enough technically and as a passer for a fb which is why he is not starting rb for Spain. For us he is fine, he got destroyed by sterling though 

[Vesper 30,179]

49 minutes ago, communicate said:

I am not sure Azpi is a problem for us. He is not good enough technically and as a passer for a fb which is why he is not starting rb for Spain. For us he is fine, he got destroyed by sterling though 

He has to be upgraded. His race is soon run. Over 20,000 total minutes in last 5 seasons. Will be around 9500 just these last two. He turns 30 in summer. 

Thank god we have Reece James coming in but we need to sell Azpi and buy another RB as well. Maybe keep his as a backup CB. The club blew Azpi out. You cannot play a player in that position that many minutes a year and expect him to keep up WC level past 29, 30.

Azpi is the only remotely WC RB over 28yo. Let that sink in.

No, soon to be 36yo Dani Alves doesn't count. Criminal fraud that FIFA put him on first team all world for 2018. He is shot as a top player.

[OneMoSalah 8,886]

Selling Azpi is a ridiculous idea. No disrespect but you cannot say that he has run his race. The team is struggling, he has shown more than enough at times this season to show he still has plenty to offer (or so I think). Reece James is a big talent but again, not to rush him, he needs more experience firstly.

7 hours ago, communicate said:

I am not sure Azpi is a problem for us. He is not good enough technically and as a passer for a fb which is why he is not starting rb for Spain. For us he is fine, he got destroyed by sterling though 

Sterling would give most players a tough game. What about the 2-0 where he was immense and had Sane in his pocket? Or the countless other big games hes played in where he has been ridiculously good defensively? Offensively he can still improve but his final ball as weve seen over the last few seasons is actually good. Crossing for a false 9 that is 5 ft 8 is hardly ideal. 

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5 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said:

Selling Azpi is a ridiculous idea. No disrespect but you cannot say that he has run his race. The team is struggling, he has shown more than enough at times this season to show he still has plenty to offer (or so I think). Reece James is a big talent but again, not to rush him, he needs more experience firstly.

Sterling would give most players a tough game. What about the 2-0 where he was immense and had Sane in his pocket? Or the countless other big games hes played in where he has been ridiculously good defensively? Offensively he can still improve but his final ball as weve seen over the last few seasons is actually good. Crossing for a false 9 that is 5 ft 8 is hardly ideal. 

Nah I have no problem with Azpi. He is perfectly fine, I am just saying why he is not Spain no 1 rb

[OneMoSalah 8,886]

1 minute ago, communicate said:

Nah I have no problem with Azpi. He is perfectly fine, I am just saying why he is not Spain no 1 rb

Hes not Spains no 1 RB because Dani Carjaval is better. Plain and simple. Maybe not defensively but his physical and technical attributes are very impressive. Always a threat when getting forward. Its nothing to do with Azpi being poor. Defensibdly not many players in world football are as consistently solid as he usually is. Being exposed is difficult for every player.

[Vesper 30,179]

11 minutes ago, communicate said:

Nah I have no problem with Azpi. He is perfectly fine, I am just saying why he is not Spain no 1 rb

Because Carvajal and Sergi Roberto are better players. Its not even close nowadays. Soon Hakimi (if he switches to Spain) and Odriozola will pass him up. He has no future on Spain and soon none here.

[Romans disciples 26]

still one if the best .

 

[Vesper 30,179]

Just now, Romans disciples said:

still one if the best .

 

Naw. He is spent IMHO, his defence is what carried him and that has been extremely poor. Too many minutes. Time to sell, as he isn't good enough now.

[Yeboii 1,844]

He needs a rest, just like Rudiger and Jorginho. 

[Jase 43,479]

4 hours ago, Vesper said:

Naw. He is spent IMHO, his defence is what carried him and that has been extremely poor. Too many minutes. Time to sell, as he isn't good enough now.

Deary me, one poor season and people suddenly want Azpi to be sold, despite having been excellent in all the previous seasons.  He is definitely the victim of his own success and the high standards he set for himself. Remember when Benitez tried to push Terry out in the 2012/13 season? Yeah, it turned out Terry still had a lot of himself to give and went on to win more trophies, including 2 Premier League titles. At worst, Azpi should be kept and be second choice because he still more than good enough to serve as a backup option.