Wrong priorities

[Muzchap 8,966]

Ah, yes. ENGLANDS BRAVE LION MR CHELSEA CAPTAIN LEADER LEGEND CAN DO NO WRONG, HE HAS 2, NO 52 IF HE WANTS, SEASONS LEFT IN HIM. The 'its JT he can do what he likes' argument makes as much sense as Tottenham fans' arguments last season when we requested to move the FA Cup tie. It consisted basically of "WE ARE TOTTENHAM SUPER TOTTENHAM FROM THE LANE FROM THE LANE WE ARE TOTTENHAM SUPER TOTTENHAM FROM THE LANE FROM THE LANE."

He has declined massively, and he will quickly turn into a liability a la Carragher in a year or so. We missed a huge trick by not getting shot of him for 40 million in 2010, that is an enormous sum for anyone, let alone a defender. 40 million pounds for a 29 year old centre back, we should have taken it then and there and lol'd all the way to the bank. We could have gotten Modric for that money. Or 4 great young centre backs. Anything we wanted really. That was before PSG turned up and made it harder to compete.

Modric? Fuck off he's nothing compared to JT...

So he's declining, from World Class to just Class...

It's not just the work he does on the pitch it's in the dressing room etc - we always play better when he's around.

40 million is fuck all to Roman, I'm glad you're not in charge of the club we'd be fucking relegated!

[Liquidator 5,176]

So because he has a great history we should keep playing him despite being bad?

Alright then, lets call back Zola!

What a stupid thing to say. I am not saying we should play him week in week out but he is still a good defender and still good enough to play in this team. Cahill and Luiz struggle to play together and it is likely that ivanovic will be playing right back more often with Bosingwa gone. Some people on this thread are like spoilt children saying how we need lots more signings. Yes we need one or two but you seem to think that as soon as Terry is in decline one of our best ever players should just be sold in an instant. He is still a good player but it looks like Terry is becoming a scapegoat figure because he is not as good as he once was

[Term-X 7,891]

So because he has a great history we should keep playing him despite being bad?

Alright then, lets call back Zola!

It was a power move from City, politically charged, nothing good could have come out of it for 'brand Chelsea'.

[Justin_3d 1,140]

What a stupid thing to say. I am not saying we should play him week in week out but he is still a good defender and still good enough to play in this team. Cahill and Luiz struggle to play together and it is likely that ivanovic will be playing right back more often with Bosingwa gone. Some people on this thread are like spoilt children saying how we need lots more signings. Yes we need one or two but you seem to think that as soon as Terry is in decline one of our best ever players should just be sold in an instant. He is still a good player but it looks like Terry is becoming a scapegoat figure because he is not as good as he once was

I don't think Terry should be sold, likewise Lampard.

Those two can continue to be good for quite some time.

But I don't agree that they should be playing every game when they are not as good before.

If they want to stay till they retire, they should follow the Schole, Giggs model.

[Tomo 21,733]

Terry never had any intention on going to City, he was using their interest as a bargaining chip in talks for a new contract.

[Hutcho 8,443]

People can criticise Terry all they want and say he is in decline (which he is but he is still a very good defender) but we shouldn't forget that nobody, arguably in the history of the club, has put themself on the line week after week for the club like he has

AMEN... All this hate for JT is crazy, proved today he is still our most solid reliable defender... yes he doesn't have blistering pace, but i am a hell of a lot more confident with him in our defence than anyone else. And i am glad we told man city to fuck off when they offered 40 mil. Proves we have player loyalty, and JT is truly a LEGEND.

[OneMoSalah 8,778]

At this rate Lampard will be our defensive midfielder for the next 8 years....

[Tricky 301]

Drop JT? Despite the fact that every manager (including International) pick him as first choice? Comfortable on the ball, great reader of the game, puts his heart and soul into every game. Yeah... Hell drop him because a few guys on a forum say he has lost it.

Is he as good as four years ago? No, but hey neither was Drogba yet you all cream your jeans about the guy. He is solid and reliable and shall probably play fewer games this year (rightly) but he won't be benched.

I've though DM was a problem for a while. We have a wealth of CM talent but none are cut out for the role. Meireles is a disaster, Mikel is to slow and predictable, lamps is to old to play every game and it remains I be seen if Essien can get back to his former self (with a preseason behind him - finally). Ramires is to light weight and lacks the ability to play with his back to goal / pick a pass.

My thoughts? Flog Meireles, start using Romolu more and lower your expectations, this is a transition period we are not going to be competing for the PL title this year.

[zolayes 14,489]

I don't think Terry should be sold, likewise Lampard.

Those two can continue to be good for quite some time.

But I don't agree that they should be playing every game when they are not as good before.

If they want to stay till they retire, they should follow the Schole, Giggs model.

both Terry and Lampard need to rested more ,,,,that way we use their experience for longer. JT was never the fastest but he is a great

defensive organiser

[SeB 1,281]

- mikel isnt player who can pressing opponent

- he can't marking opposition player movement

- sometimes he looks not even can covering the space/area in midfield, becasue his mobility very lacking

he like just there to fill position

I left the other points but those 3 shocked me:

Can you name me any team in the world, any defensive animation in the world where the defensive minded player is responsible to come out and instigate pressing ? You wont ever find that. In the double pivot that's Lampard's role to instigate the pressing, like Khedira with Germany. Not Mikel or Schweinsteiger for god's sake !

I think you have to watch again the 3-1 lost to Manure last season: Meireles in front of the defense, Rooney had all the space in the world. Mikel came on in the last 20mn, we barely see Rooney. Despite him scoring hands of goals before and after this game

In the double pivot, Mikel's first task is to cover Lampard, not the defense like in 4-3-3. Due to the lack of defensive contribution from Mata, Hazard etc... we're overcrowed in midfield zones and Mikel cannot mark/cover more than one space (I start to think that if Mikel manages to mark 3 players at the same time, maybe he'll get some consideration). Mikel often faces situations where he knows that every positionning choice he'll make won't prevent the dangerous situation to go on

I don't deny Mikel's game was weird yesterday but that's not his own fact when we face an atypic team like Wigan. Same system than City last week but Mikel wasn't under pressure. The most of the covering work was expected to be Hazard and Bertrand's even if Mikel had a bit to do as well. He had 2 tackles and 2 interceptions, that's decent considering he wasn't pivotal in the opposition's mind (who didn't aimed specifically on him)

[KonohasOrangeFlash 2,607]

This will be the season Mikel gets found out, with the style of play under RDM last season he was in his element. If Lampard is the first name on the team sheet, week in week out, january won't come quick enough. In a 'title challenging' Chelsea side, Ramires is not a first team player.

Agreed. Lampard needs to be phased out and Mikel isn't the best. Romeu and Ramires need to be tried a lot more in the pivot but RDM is stubborn. Sooner or later we need to bring a player of Witsel/Tiote/M'Vila's quality.

[Strike 7,217]

Agreed. Lampard needs to be phased out and Mikel isn't the best. Romeu and Ramires need to be tried a lot more in the pivot but RDM is stubborn. Sooner or later we need to bring a player of Witsel/Tiote/M'Vila's quality.

the players for the pivot

romeu - young and learning

essien and lampard- old and declining

mikel and meireles - well, they are just hopeless

ramires - apparently he is better on the wing

tells you everything about the problems we are facing.

[Muzchap 8,966]

the players for the pivot

romeu - young and learning

essien and lampard- old and declining

mikel and meireles - well, they are just hopeless

ramires - apparently he is better on the wing

tells you everything about the problems we are facing.

100% agree (ran out of likes today - sorry )

Despite our disagreements on Lampards penalties - this is a great post AND is probably what every CFC fan is thinking.

If I had to send just 1 message to RDM, it would be this one...

[Strike 7,217]

100% agree (ran out of likes today - sorry )

Despite our disagreements on Lampards penalties - this is a great post AND is probably what every CFC fan is thinking.

If I had to send just 1 message to RDM, it would be this one...

disagreements are better than shit posting

the problem here is nobody in the 23-28 age bracket (mikel doesnt count) and thus nobody to truly boss the midfield and drive us forward. lampard is physically incapable now and that's why we need another CM ahead of a striker. cabaye or moutinho would improve this team GREATLY

[Santiago. 1,500]

Why are we not even looking at Sahin?

Because that would actually make sense, and obviously RDM isn't going with that...

[whats-the-mata 10]

Because that would actually make sense, and obviously RDM isn't going with that...

Off topic: but thanks your avatar reminded me to catch up on breaking bad haha!

[SeB 1,281]

Agreed. Lampard needs to be phased out and Mikel isn't the best. Romeu and Ramires need to be tried a lot more in the pivot but RDM is stubborn. Sooner or later we need to bring a player of Witsel/Tiote/M'Vila's quality.

M'Vila :banghead:

I'd keep an eye on Witsel, he's dynamic and likes to go forward. Tiote becames a specific player, I was really happy with his first season because he was able to regain the ball but to distribute and be available at times on the wings to support and cross. His second season he was more Cabaye's complement in the double pivot, after a crappy start of the season I didn't saw his passing game as still as good as the season before.

He may be a player between two roles in MF even if I would question his ability to make the link. He can make the link between the defense and midfield but woudn't be that good with a similar link up role up on the pitch.

But at the moment we have to expect from Hazard or Mata

some abilities to ask deep and organize the play (as would a MF do) for the belgian

the ability to keep the ball and be the one who manages the rythm and not suffer from it: Mata

I've high hopes on Oscar, when he came on he hold several roles in such a short amount of times, that's really encouraging for the future!

[Django 83]

Ah, yes. ENGLANDS BRAVE LION MR CHELSEA CAPTAIN LEADER LEGEND CAN DO NO WRONG, HE HAS 2, NO 52 IF HE WANTS, SEASONS LEFT IN HIM. The 'its JT he can do what he likes' argument makes as much sense as Tottenham fans' arguments last season when we requested to move the FA Cup tie. It consisted basically of "WE ARE TOTTENHAM SUPER TOTTENHAM FROM THE LANE FROM THE LANE WE ARE TOTTENHAM SUPER TOTTENHAM FROM THE LANE FROM THE LANE."

He has declined massively, and he will quickly turn into a liability a la Carragher in a year or so. We missed a huge trick by not getting shot of him for 40 million in 2010, that is an enormous sum for anyone, let alone a defender. 40 million pounds for a 29 year old centre back, we should have taken it then and there and lol'd all the way to the bank. We could have gotten Modric for that money. Or 4 great young centre backs. Anything we wanted really. That was before PSG turned up and made it harder to compete.

You talk so much shit.