Oscar

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It'll be very interesting to see what we do with him this summer.

Replace him if we want to go the next level, to win the CL and dominate big games.

The only weak link out of our front 5 is Oscar.

Cesc, Matic, Eden, Costa all are to top quality, Willian for me too but some will disagree.

Would not mind him as a squad player but If some team bids £30M + for him, we need to consider selling him due to FFP.

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I think Jose will sell him if the right offer comes through. Whore him to PSG..

[LAM09 7,043]

I think Jose will sell him if the right offer comes through. Whore him to PSG..

Better to use him as a bargaining tool for Pogba.

[Parky 739]

Better to use him as a bargaining tool for Pogba.

Good point. Im sure Juve still remember his great goal against them in the CL game.

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Scoring a few screamers won't get you far. At the moment, Coutinho is just a flashy player with little end product.

Go back a few pages - it's a long thread - and the same folks are saying the odd goal and assist from Oscar isn't enough and doesn't make good prospect...

Compared to Coutinho, Oscar is very very rounded as he's got the defensive side of his game down to exactly what his manager wants. Coutinho is really poor defending and with any physical contact? He's been very poor lately actually, despite a couple of goals in between - went missing several time esp in tough matches. A bad game by Oscar doesn't cost you the game as he's going to do his hard work.

At São Paulo an internacional in Brazil Oscar was far more creative and the concern back then was whether he'd ever become a competitive player - mourinho has addressed that beautifully.

Grass is definitely greener on the other side. (Carzola Mata...

liverpool has one really good player and Coutinho ain't it.

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Silva, Cazorla, Ozil, Mata, Eriksen........ And then there's Spain.

Sigurdsson as well

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Go back a few pages - it's a long thread - and the same folks are saying the odd goal and assist from Oscar isn't enough and doesn't make good prospect...

Compared to Coutinho, Oscar is very very rounded as he's got the defensive side of his game down to exactly what his manager wants. Coutinho is really poor defending and with any physical contact? He's been very poor lately actually, despite a couple of goals in between - went missing several time esp in tough matches. A bad game by Oscar doesn't cost you the game as he's going to do his hard work.

At São Paulo an internacional in Brazil Oscar was far more creative and the concern back then was whether he'd ever become a competitive player - mourinho has addressed that beautifully.

Grass is definitely greener on the other side. (Carzola Mata...

liverpool has one really good player and Coutinho ain't it.

Who is then? Coutinho has been Liverpool's best player by far and been much better than Oscar this season. Coutinho has been the shining light in an average season for Liverpool and has stepped up in the absence of Suarez and Sturridge for most games. You mention he has been poor recently. He was their best player against QPR and even the game they lost against Hull, I heard he was Liverpool's best player by far and caused Hull plenty of problems. On top of that Oscar has been worse than Coutinho this season and far too inconsistent. Bar the defensive side which Coutinho has actually improved on Coutinho is better than Oscar in most aspects of his game. You put Oscar in Liverpool's team and there is no way he would be able to do what Coutinho does imo as he does not have the same creativity, flair, skill. Coutinho has massively improved his technique as well this season. Just look at some of the goals he has scored.

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Who is then? Coutinho has been Liverpool's best player by far and been much better than Oscar this season. Coutinho has been the shining light in an average season for Liverpool and has stepped up in the absence of Suarez and Sturridge for most games. You mention he has been poor recently. He was their best player against QPR and even the game they lost against Hull, I heard he was Liverpool's best player by far and caused Hull plenty of problems. On top of that Oscar has been worse than Coutinho this season and far too inconsistent. Bar the defensive side which Coutinho has actually improved on Coutinho is better than Oscar in most aspects of his game. You put Oscar in Liverpool's team and there is no way he would be able to do what Coutinho does imo as he does not have the same creativity, flair, skill. Coutinho has massively improved his technique as well this season. Just look at some of the goals he has scored.

Sterling for me.

Coutinho is responsible for good plays as well as many of the goals they concede. no thanks.

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Who is then? Coutinho has been Liverpool's best player by far and been much better than Oscar this season. Coutinho has been the shining light in an average season for Liverpool and has stepped up in the absence of Suarez and Sturridge for most games. You mention he has been poor recently. He was their best player against QPR and even the game they lost against Hull, I heard he was Liverpool's best player by far and caused Hull plenty of problems. On top of that Oscar has been worse than Coutinho this season and far too inconsistent. Bar the defensive side which Coutinho has actually improved on Coutinho is better than Oscar in most aspects of his game. You put Oscar in Liverpool's team and there is no way he would be able to do what Coutinho does imo as he does not have the same creativity, flair, skill. Coutinho has massively improved his technique as well this season. Just look at some of the goals he has scored.

Coutinho did nothing in the first half of the season. Oscar did nothing in the second half of the season. They both still have a lot to prove. Coutinho can be fantastic, but he can also look very ordinary (though his technique always allows him to produce one moment of beauty).

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Sterling for me.

Coutinho is responsible for good plays as well as many of the goals they concede. no thanks.

I am a big fan of Sterling but this season he has been outshone by Coutinho. Sterling by his standards has been below par this season. Any Liverpool fan will tell you that. Coutinho will get their POTY.

Coutinho did nothing in the first half of the season. Oscar did nothing in the second half of the season. They both still have a lot to prove. Coutinho can be fantastic, but he can also look very ordinary (though his technique always allows him to produce one moment of beauty).

He has been much better than Oscar though. His performance against City was top class. Right now, there is not even a debate imo of who has had a better season out of the two. Coutinho has been fantastic.

[Tomo 21,751]

I am a big fan of Sterling but this season he has been outshone by Coutinho. Sterling by his standards has been below par this season. Any Liverpool fan will tell you that. Coutinho will get their POTY.

He has been much better than Oscar though. His performance against City was top class. Right now, there is not even a debate imo of who has had a better season out of the two. Coutinho has been fantastic.

He hasn't all season tho, the first half of the season he was complete rubbish and if he wins their POTS it says more about Liverpools season than it does his.

One of the most overrated player's I have seen, he is a flashy one in five player that makes Joe Cole look like the model of consistency.

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He hasn't all season tho, the first half of the season he was complete rubbish and if he wins their POTS it says more about Liverpools season than it does his.

One of the most overrated player's I have seen, he is a flashy one in five player that makes Joe Cole look like the model of consistency.

Yeah, he started of slow but when BR found a formula with how to play with Liverpool, he started to shine and perform. I don't think he is overrated at all. I use to be critical of him but when I have watched him I just think he is a superb little player. You just have to look in the Sterling thread when I was arguing with Nike about how inconsistent Coutinho is. That was a few months ago. Now I change and say he is carrying Liverpool and he has a lack of quality around him. Coutinho was Liverpool's best player by far in the City game at Anfield. Ripped them apart. Best played in the 2-2 game against Arsenal. Best player on the field in our COC 1st leg game against them. He also has scored some fantastic goals this season.

Coutinho has added genuine quality to Liverpool. Where you think Coutinho is overrated, that is how I feel about Oscar. I think he is a decent player but is made to look good because of the quality players around him. The games where I have mentioned where Coutinho performed excellently, I have never seen Oscar perform like that. That is a fact, not an exaggeration.

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I am a big fan of Sterling but this season he has been outshone by Coutinho. Sterling by his standards has been below par this season. Any Liverpool fan will tell you that. Coutinho will get their POTY.

He has been much better than Oscar though. His performance against City was top class. Right now, there is not even a debate imo of who has had a better season out of the two. Coutinho has been fantastic.

Disagree. It's easy to back Coutinho because of his superior form in the second half of the season, but like Tomo already said, he was rubbish in the first half of the season. Same as Oscar in the second half, but he doesn't have Oscar's level of defensive contribution and work rate to fall back on. Even in his improved showings in the second half of the season, his form fluctuates. Not strange, he's 22.

Coutinho's a very aesthetically pleasing player, but the majority of his moves lack purpose. Again, he can pull off one or two wonderful dribbles/passes/shots in a overall average performance, and suddenly his average performance magically turns into a good or great performance. Not that I'm saying he's incapable of producing top performances, he clearly is.

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Disagree. It's easy to back Coutinho because of his superior form in the second half of the season, but like Tomo already said, he was rubbish in the first half of the season. Same as Oscar in the second half, but he doesn't have Oscar's level of defensive contribution and work rate to fall back on. Even in his improved showings in the second half of the season, his form fluctuates. Not strange, he's 22.

Coutinho's a very aesthetically pleasing player, but the majority of his moves lack purpose. Again, he can pull off one or two wonderful dribbles/passes/shots in a overall average performance, and suddenly his average performance magically turns into a good or great performance. Not that I'm saying he's incapable of producing top performances, he clearly is.

Agree to disagree then but if you asked me what I look for from a no.10 out of the two, I would take Coutinho all day long. Coutinho may not have the same defensive work which I think is a little overrated comparison anyway however Oscar does not have Coutinho's creativity or dribbling skills. I just have not been impressed with Oscar this season and even for the games where we have said he done well, for instance the game against United couple weeks back people said he had a good game for doing that pass which was delightful but apart from that he does not really influence the game. I just think we need a better no.10 because Oscar is way too inconsistent.

His form may go up and down but like I was saying earlier, you put Oscar into Liverpool's team and I don't see what he will add. Not because he is a bad player but he is not a player I see who can make a real difference unless he is surroudned by quality players. Coutinho on the other hand, if he had better players around him, he would have more goals and assists to his name.

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I find it amazing how out of the MAZACAR *cringes* trio, after so much debate throughout the years and projections on which player had the most talent, which player would go on to be a Chelsea legend, which player had the most upside and in 2/3 years would take the EPL by storm, it is Hazard who is left standing.

Obviously Oscar hasn't left yet, but the writing has been on the wall for months now. We need an upgrade on him because frankly he's holding us back in the big games, ins't technically solid, and has gone MIA for the 2nd half of the season for now 3 years running. From being ok, in his first season.To being the 'chosen one' upon JM's arrival, to being a weaker link in the team (not saying he's trash) but yall know what i mean.

How things change man.