Oscar

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Think your the one with the knee jerk reaction. 5 goals and 5 assists in the epl was my prediction.

He has 1 goal and 0 assist so far.

I bet you didn't watch the wolfsburg game. Wolfsburg played well against Munich and than something called Lewandowski happened. When the greatest ten minutes of individual brillance happens, hard to win....

But then look at created chances over the season too. Aguero is the only clinical finisher there in that starting 11. KDB made 2 very good passes against Palace.

And I watched all of the game. They were defensively solid but apart from the goal and the Neuer thing I mentioned they rarely did anything going forward. Draxler had a decent shot and yeah that was about it all game. Last season they put in a much better performance all game and were unlucky to lose that. The only thing Wolfsburg done really today was contain them after the goal then they offered nothing going forward. Only 2 shots on target.

When KDB is in the team they over came Bayern on penalties this season in the cup and he made the all important assist for Bendtner. Game ended 1-1.

And please remind me of his role in their 4-1, yes 4-1 win over Bayern last season. KDB the complete star. 2 goals and assist but you came up with a knee-jerk conclusion that because they were unbeaten before today they were going to excel without him. LOL. Don't make me laugh.

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But then look at created chances over the season too. Aguero is the only clinical finisher there in that starting 11. KDB made 2 very good passes against Palace.

And I watched all of the game. They were defensively solid but apart from the goal and the Neuer thing I mentioned they rarely did anything going forward. Draxler had a decent shot and yeah that was about it all game. Last season they put in a much better performance all game and were unlucky to lose that. The only thing Wolfsburg done really today was contain them after the goal then they offered nothing going forward. Only 2 shots on target.

When KDB is in the team they over came Bayern on penalties but he made the all important assist for Bendtner. Game ended 1-1.

And please remind me of his role in their 4-1, yes 4-1 win over Bayern last season. KDB the complete star. 2 goals and assist but you came up with a knee-jerk conclusion that because they were unbeaten before today they were going to excel without him. LOL. Don't make me laugh.

Actually, if u watched the preseason game, Munich was significantly better than Wolfsburg. Than, they decided to play around and kdb assisted to Lord bentner for the goal.

This game, wolfsburg played the same as well. Let munich attack and counter and should of scored 2 goals in the first half.

KDB lost to munich 2 out of 3 games with wolfsburg... they have never beated shalke with kdb and beat them this season 3-0 without him...Maybe you should watch the game munich killed wolfsburg 6-1. If you actually remember the 4-1 game, that was during the time half their team was injured and Wolfsburg just scored and Munich didn't convert. Munich had more shots on goals than, possession and pass accuracy.

Also, last season, Wolfsburg obtained 5 points in their first 5 games.

This season, they got 11..

Last year, was a fantastic season for wolfsburg, but last season, they were playing for their fallen teammate and I bet that helped them and KDB in the season

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Actually, if u watched the preseason game, Munich was significantly better than Wolfsburg. Than, they decided to play around and kdb assisted to Lord bentner for the goal.

This game, wolfsburg played the same as well. Let munich attack and counter and should of scored 2 goals in the first half.

KDB lost to munich 2 out of 3 games with wolfsburg... they have never beated shalke with kdb and beat them this season 3-0 without him...Maybe you should watch the game munich killed wolfsburg 6-1.

That is like me saying they could not score a goal against a newly promoted team and the game ended goaless. They clearly will miss KDB over the season. Draxler is a quality player but is not in KDB league. And the difference is when KDB is in the team they give Bayern more of a match as proved by the game at the beginning of the season and the games last season where KDB had a major impact. You do realise that other than the goal they only had 1 shot on target against a world class team yes but a team who had only 1 natural CB in their team due to their injuries. KDB will continue to get better and prove you wrong. Time will tell.

But in trying to prove Wolfsburg are better off without him is just plain ridiculous.

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That is like me saying they could not score a goal against a newly promoted team and the game ended goaless. They clearly will miss KDB over the season. Draxler is a quality player but is not in KDB league. And the difference is when KDB is in the team they give Bayern more of a match as proved by the game at the beginning of the season and the games last season where KDB had a major impact. You do realise that other than the goal they only had 1 shot on target against a world class team yes but a team who had only 1 natural CB in their team due to their injuries. KDB will continue to get better and prove you wrong. Time will tell.

But in trying to prove Wolfsburg are better off without him is just plain ridiculous.

Wolfsburg last season first 5 games: 5 points

This season first 5: 11 points

They lost to bayern 2/3 during the KDB era. The 4-1 game, munich was crippled if you didn't remember and wolfsburg just converted better than Munich.

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Wolfsburg last season first 5 games: 5 points

This season first 5: 11 points

They lost to bayern 2/3 during the KDB era. The 4-1 game, munich was crippled if you didn't remember and wolfsburg just converted better than Munich.

Yeah and Bayern were crippled today LOL, but battered them.

And regarding the comparison in points, look at Wolfsburg's run after those games last season and look how many games they were winning. I can guarantee you they will struggle to repeat last season's feats this time around. If they do, hands up but I am sure they will not because KDB is a major loss.

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Yeah and Bayern were crippled today LOL, but battered them.

And regarding the comparison in points, look at Wolfsburg's run after those games last season and look how many games they were winning. I can guarantee you they will struggle to repeat last season's feats this time around. If they do, hands up but I am sure they will not because KDB is a major loss.

Munich was cripped today as well, however, they had the best summer and bought adequate cover in COSTA, VIDAL, and KIMMICH who all played today. Also, it was essentially Lewandowski that battered them.....

Wolfsburg were always going to end up the same with kdb or not, 3rd to munich and dortmund.

Were you one of those people that thought Gladbach was going to be third place to this season?

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Munich was cripped today as well, however, they had the best summer and bought adequate cover in COSTA, VIDAL, and KIMMICH who all played today. Also, it was essentially Lewandowski that battered them.....

Wolfsburg were always going to end up the same with kdb or not, 3rd to munich and dortmund.

Were you one of those people that thought Gladbach was going to be third place to this season?

Losing KDB has effectively put too bed any suggestion they had off testing Bayern this season. Either way the games have shown that without KDB they struggled to atatck Bayern.

I never thought Gladbach would be in the top 3/4 tbh after they lost Kruse as Drmic is not as good and plus they lost Kramer back to Leverkusen but yeah I am shocked by their start tbh. Did not see them losing every game, especailly as some of the games they have played have been very winnable. Hope they find some form. Big fan of them.

[Barbara 15,149]

Guys, we have a thread for KdB and one for Bundesliga, suit yourselves, please.

[Rmpr 8,977]

Guys, we have a thread for KdB and one for Bundesliga, suit yourselves, please.

Barbara, your posts are always too rational. Im afraid I will have to ban you!

We want pationate over the top derailed comments like we have been experiencing lately...

[Barbara 15,149]

found this on tumblr today while checking the Chelsea FC tag.

I really enjoyed that tackle. Top quality

[Hybrid Angel 2,130]

Hulk is shite. He has never impressed me in the top level and is very inconsistent. A very average player. Comparing him to a striker with the class of Diego Costa is madness.

[Special Juan 27,424]

Get back to Oscar please, this is quickly getting way off topic.

Thanks.

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found this on tumblr today while checking the Chelsea FC tag.

I really enjoyed that tackle. Top quality

"I really like to tackle." - EMBOABA, Oscar.

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Where that Coutinho again....

Another game, yet, no win again.

I am not even saying this to be petty but you see that when Liverpool have strikers with pace and movement like Sturridge he will thrive. 2 asissts today. They keep Sturridge and Coutinho fit and they excel. But you said that after the Bordeaux game. I am going to ask you where was Oscar today when we needed him to step up? Not there and that is my concern. He does not step up often when the rest of the team are below par.

Last 3 games for City had 1 crucial element....

Silva didn't play in any of them...

The 3 games Oscar played this season, we conceded 1 goal and are 2-0-1

Just based on EPL season, we already conceded 12 goals this year. We will drop points with oscar on the team sheet, but we also will win more games with him as our cam than KDB as our cam

Mate, like I was trying to say before, the theory that when Oscar plays we don't lose is quite poor. When the likes of Hazard and Pedro are not performing to their usual standards, he does not step up and that is my biggest concern. He was better in the second half but as a no.10 no real cutting edge when we need it. We bring on players like Willian and Ramires who can run at the oppostion, then the game changed.

I thought people would change their minds about Oscar after the disasterous couple of games we had without him but I guess it's just impossible for him to please our fans.

I think the issue is that people are comparing him to creative n10s the likes of Silva,Ozil,James.. He's not that type of player and probably never will be.

He leads the pressing in the team and maintains defensive stability. He retains possession, plays small combinations with the other attacking players and helps our star player shine(Hazard). He has a fair amount of goals/assists a season for someone who isnt the focal point of his team. It's no surprise we had players like Eden and Fabregas underperforming while he was not playing. He's a modern day n10.

So he is playing today and they still both underperform? This myth that he brings balance is a load of rubbish honestly. I actually thought Oscar was much better in the second half but still not enough cutting edge. Ironic that he went off and we got both goals. Oscar performed against Maccabi but the fact that people were using that game tosay the likes of Fabregas performed because Oscar returned was ridiculous. They were an awful team and Fabregas would have performed even with Kenedy playing in the no.10 tbh. LIke I said think he improved second half but it is nonsense imo to say that we as a team improve when he returns. I saw no evidence of that today against the worse team in the league this season (along with Sunderland).

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I am not even saying this to be petty but you see that when Liverpool have strikers with pace and movement like Sturridge he will thrive. 2 asissts today. They keep Sturridge and Coutinho fit and they excel. But you said that after the Bordeaux game. I am going to ask you where was Oscar today when we needed him to step up? Not there and that is my concern. He does not step up often when the rest of the team are below par.

Mate, like I was trying to say before, the theory that when Oscar plays we don't lose is quite poor. When the likes of Hazard and Pedro are not performing to their usual standards, he does not step up and that is my biggest concern. He was better in the second half but as a no.10 no real cutting edge when we need it. We bring on players like Willian and Ramires who can run at the oppostion, then the game changed.

So he is playing today and they still both underperform? This myth that he brings balance is a load of rubbish honestly. I actually thought Oscar was much better in the second half but still not enough cutting edge. Ironic that he went off and we got both goals. Oscar performed against Maccabi but the fact that people were using that game tosay the likes of Fabregas performed because Oscar returned was ridiculous. They were an awful team and Fabregas would have performed even with Kenedy playing in the no.10 tbh. LIke I said think he improved second half but it is nonsense imo to say that we as a team improve when he returns. I saw no evidence of that today against the worse team in the league this season (along with Sunderland).

Coutinho

1 goal=46 shots

HAHAHA 2 assists from basic passes where both milner and daniel did all the WORK....

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Coutinho

1 goal=46 shots

HAHAHA 2 assists from basic passes where both milner and daniel did all the WORK....

Still goes down as his though but generally he was one of the better players in the game. They played him as a no.8. Think I read he completed every single one of his passes and was impressive.

But going to Oscar, I hope this myth that you and others put out that the team balance improves when he is in the team, is put to an end. Did you see how vulnerable we looked in the first half?

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Still goes down as his though but generally he was one of the better players in the game. They played him as a no.8. Think I read he completed every single one of his passes and was impressive.

But going to Oscar, I hope this myth that you and others put out that the team balance improves when he is in the team, is put to an end. Did you see how vulnerable we looked in the first half?

You didn't even watch the game and your talking again...

Also the midfield was balanced, once Oscar drop deep to help Matic-Cesc.. Before that, those 2 were getting outrun, outplayed, etc.... Oscar was the best player before he got subbed out...

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You didn't even watch the game and your talking again...

Also the midfield was balanced, once Oscar drop deep to help Matic-Cesc.. Before that, those 2 were getting outrun, outplayed, etc.... Oscar was the best player before he got subbed out...

You did watch the game and let me guess, Coutinho was shit right? Even though most reviews and fans have given him good ratings and compliments?

Oscar was good in the second half, poor in first half. If he was that good he would have stayed on but he did not because he was not offering much offensively. That simple. We got both goals when he came off and that goes against #we don't lose when Oscar plays. I am not saying he was awful but he does not do enough offensively for a player you seem to rate above the likes of KDB. Let's see if he keeps his place against Porto. I think he might be dropped.