Unionjack 7,531 Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 Fairish. I say that because, for me, if Oscar fails to deliver this season it will be because he isn't good enough, not because he's bottled it.I've long held a different view to yours. For me it is no more than an excuse to blame Oscar's woes on too much football, too little rest and truncated preseasons. While the lad is undoubtedly the best number 10 we have he is, in my opinion, simply not good enough to hold down that role for team hoping to be be competitive at the very top of the game.By the way I have never accepted the widely held view that Oscar is consistent before Christmas and inconsistent after it. I see him as inconsistent all the time, it's just that by Christamas coaches tire of waiting for things to improve.In fact this whole consistent/inconsistent argument is one of the great myths of football. All players are inconsistent, all the time. It is just that with some players, players like Oscar I suggest, their contribution is only good enough when they are at the very top of their game. David Silva has good games and bad games but, even when he's bad, it's clear that he's a top quality number 10. That is barely true of Oscar even when he's at the top of his performance range.Hes right ya know.Its not like I dont like the lad and Im not in a rush to get rid of him as we need depth. But I'd love us to get someone that could make a difference for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iseah100 5,612 Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 Where is HE!?!?!?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,570 Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 Where is HE!?!?!?!Off to Juve iseah100 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolhead23 1,147 Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 Where is HE!?!?!?!Wasn't he injured and Jose had already mentioned he wouldnt feature in the City and West Brom games ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 Where is HE!?!?!?!Mourinho said he's still injured in his presser on Friday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionjack 7,531 Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 Ive not seen owt about what this injury is. Has anyone else?Guess it must be muscular. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 Going find it even tougher to force his way in after what I think is our strongest front three behind Costa.CostaHazard Willian Pedro stroey and Stats 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionjack 7,531 Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 Going find it even tougher to force his way in after what I think is our strongest front three behind Costa.CostaHazard Willian PedroMaybe not even Willian with a bit of luck and a call from Mou? iseah100 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iseah100 5,612 Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 Going find it even tougher to force his way in after what I think is our strongest front three behind Costa.CostaHazard Willian PedroIf we get Pogba then he's gone. Special Juan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockwork 1,794 Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 If we get Pogba then he's gone.Doesn't he become more valuable to keep though. Pogba comes we switch to 4-3-3 most likely right? Who are the alternatives to Cesc and Pogba? Ramires and RLC? Definitely would be wise to do everything to keep him.Based on merit I have no doubt Oscar can displace Cesc, unless Mou does a Flipe Luis to him. Oscar and Pogba are much more balanced duo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAB 1,030 Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 It would be stupid to let him go without signing another playmaker/winger besides Pedro if we don't want to go back to having zero options on the bench. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John1611 77 Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 He's "injured"...and no one knows what the injury even is? And all this amidst the Pogba rumours....raises my eyebrow. Juventus crave Oscar; they definitely would be more willing to let Pogba go providing that our man goes to them. The board knows this too because Jose came out and complained about Allegri openly talking about Oscar this summer. As much as I don't want it to be true, an oscar + cuadrado + cash deal is a possibility. It would be difficult though because Oscar said that he wants to stay. Well, time should tell I guess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oscar 441 Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 Juventus needs Oscar playing in the diamond behind morata and dybala with marchisio, stuararo and perrerya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nono 791 Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 I hope he comes back quickly and we can put the Pogba rumours to bed. Letting Oscar go for Pogba is vomit inducing for me. cadenza666 and mikeholiday 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Oscar is a favorite of Mourinho. The latter has already mentioned his faith/confidence in Oscar so many times and he's not just going to let him go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheva. 5,373 Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Juventus marchisio, stuararo and perreryaDamn imagine going from Pirlo, Vidal, Pogba to this. After getting to CL final too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Oscar is a favorite of Mourinho. The latter has already mentioned his faith/confidence in Oscar so many times and he's not just going to let him go.Just like Mata, Torres, Filipe Luis, Luiz etc, when Jose said he counted on them? I think if there's a really good offer for Oscar he will be sold, he is not exactly a guy who cannot be replaced easily considering the fact there are many number 10s out there and also deeper midfield players who could come in for us to go to a 4-3-3 possibly. Its is interesting, don't see Pogba coming here at all though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 2,702 Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 I hope he comes back quickly and we can put the Pogba rumours to bed. Letting Oscar go for Pogba is vomit inducing for me.Why exactly? Pogba is a better player, with far less limitations in his game, all the while being younger. Saying that though, if Oscar continues to play the way he did in that first half against Swansea... He is well on his way to being top 3 at his position in the world. For all the downs we've had to start the season, that one half of play against Swansea might have been the best half of football I've seen from a Chelsea player in a long time. This coming from someone who is very critical of Oscar in general. BlueLion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadenza666 221 Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 would like to keep Oscar and Willian but if Juve come calling much much rather Willian is sold than Oscar. even a poor Oscar would never miss that chance presented on a plate by Pedro today and his end product is better... Willian is going to end up in the direction of Ramires. bethos1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Just like Mata, Torres, Filipe Luis, Luiz etc, when Jose said he counted on them? I think if there's a really good offer for Oscar he will be sold, he is not exactly a guy who cannot be replaced easily considering the fact there are many number 10s out there and also deeper midfield players who could come in for us to go to a 4-3-3 possibly. Its is interesting, don't see Pogba coming here at all though.Oh come on. You know the situation is different with Oscar compared to those you mentioned there. Mourinho has, on numerous occasions, said Oscar is his No.10, will get better and be an important player in the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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