Chelsea? 892 Posted August 3, 2013 Share Posted August 3, 2013 Because he doesn't play in midfield, he's been shifted out wide, so how can he have the abillity to the main man when he's in an additional position rather than the spine?so we don't really know if he can run a game for Chelsea. He seems a bit slow in decision making for Chelsea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbara 15,149 Posted August 3, 2013 Share Posted August 3, 2013 Just kidding dude, i got what you mean.I'm not talking about his work rate, about that i have no doubts, receiving little or a lot of balls he always run, passes and defend. Since the time where he stole Ganso's place he started to press high, in that game Mano made him press like never before where he tackled good balls that ended in really dangerous plays. I agree that he defend and press well, but not enough to play as a DLP, this, without count that the way to defend is different. Do you think that he would already be good to go pairing with L. Gustavo in a match against Spain? Or Bayern? I'm talking about big games where we will need him all around... In other games he can alreary boss the midfield playing deep.About his apearence in Brazil games on the CC, i disagree. Not that he played bad, he showed his guns at key moments that won matches, the problem is that he also disapeared a lot in the playmaking trequartista role. Felipão even tryed Neymar in the middle behind Fred with Oscar and Hulk on the sides... He does't show so much as he could and does when he plays deeper with more space where he receive the ball without being with his back to the goal. I agree to say that he has the talent and the physical conditions to take the role (both trequartista and DLP). But... Just not yet.No I don't because I'm one of the fans who think moving him to the DLP position is a waste.I never meant as a DLP but as a CAM, winger or the most advanced midfield in the 4-3-3... Oscar has to play near the box, he has to at least have freedom to move forward to score his goals, assist, play 2-1 with the other AM, etc...imo he played in the 4-3-3 position in Brazil during CC, as the most advanced midfield player with Hulk, Fred and Neymar ahead of him as the strikers... He was clinical in the position, but of course he has plenty to improve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea? 892 Posted August 3, 2013 Share Posted August 3, 2013 But even then he's playing more number 10 role as in directly behind the striker, he's not in the Paulinho role.we can't nit pick positions. A slightly different position shouldn't change a player from world class to mediocre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jcar92 66 Posted August 3, 2013 Share Posted August 3, 2013 But even then he's playing more number 10 role as in directly behind the striker, he's not in the Paulinho role.I know, by middle i meant between Neymar and Hulk. If you're talking about the other post, is that i think that he is a DLP(didnt had the training needed) and not a number 10 trequartista ( he can, but also have to adapt to play at his best there). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jcar92 66 Posted August 3, 2013 Share Posted August 3, 2013 No I don't because I'm one of the fans who think moving him to the DLP position is a waste.I never meant as a DLP but as a CAM, winger or the most advanced midfield in the 4-3-3... Oscar has to play near the box, he has to at least have freedom to move forward to score his goals, assist, play 2-1 with the other AM, etc...imo he played in the 4-3-3 position, as the most advanced midfield player with Hulk, Fred and Neymar ahead of him as the strikers... He was clinical in the position, but of course he has plenty to improve.i respect your opinion all right. =DBut i disagree as him being a waste as DLP. Being there don't mean he can't go up front. Barbara, see Schweinsteiger, Lampard, Xavi or even Paulinho... They go up front with really danger... Assisting or scoring. Do you think that all those players are a waste there? Do they have the quality to do the Playmaker 10 role? Of course(less Paulinho), but they simply play their best there... Oscar drop deeper alone himself to take the play a lot, you could see this in the olimpics all the time. The DLP playmaker is a truly rare and important player... We have Mata, Hazard and KTB already for the Cam and winger positions.For me Brazil plays with the 4-2-3-1 with hulk and Neymar coming back and helping the midfield to create the play. Barbara and mediator 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stingray 9,441 Posted August 3, 2013 Share Posted August 3, 2013 Tremendous player, he will be one of the best in 4 years time I know he will. Just wondering where Mourinho will play him, I think he will start playing him and De Bruyne deeper rather than on the wings. Mata maybe the best in terms of attack, but Oscar isn't as limited as Mata, Oscar can run games and always make himself available and much less vulnerable, he pretty much has everything in his locker. Oooow are you back man? Kojo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jusek 2,031 Posted August 3, 2013 Share Posted August 3, 2013 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYcKBpLb2Iw James 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Mikel OBE 4,920 Posted August 3, 2013 Share Posted August 3, 2013 Tremendous player, he will be one of the best in 4 years time I know he will.Just wondering where Mourinho will play him, I think he will start playing him and De Bruyne deeper rather than on the wings.Mata maybe the best in terms of attack, but Oscar isn't as limited as Mata, Oscar can run games and always make himself available and much less vulnerable, he pretty much has everything in his locker.KOJO BACK!!! Kojo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milan 17,957 Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 Blue Armour 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meetdoscar 335 Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 Future captain or vice Blueisthecolor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbara 15,149 Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 I don't think he has the personality to be either. But I do hope he stays a long time with us yuvala and Chelsea? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea? 892 Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 Don't see oscar as a #10, I think he's more a midin a 433. I don't think he's creative for Chelsea at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meetdoscar 335 Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 Personality is on the pitch and on the pitch he gives 100 percent like lamps, steven G, RVP for arsenal, just to name a few Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLion. 21,491 Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 Personality is on the pitch and on the pitch he gives 100 percent like lamps, steven G, RVP for arsenal, just to name a fewErm... I don't know if you're new to the Premier League, but, urhhhh.... there's no easy way of saying this, so I'll just come straight out with it... Chelsea? and Stingray 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stingray 9,441 Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 (edited) Erm... I don't know if you're new to the Premier League, but, urhhhh.... there's no easy way of saying this, so I'll just come straight out with it... Edited August 8, 2013 by Stingray Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meetdoscar 335 Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 Erm... I don't know if you're new to the Premier League, but, urhhhh.... there's no easy way of saying this, so I'll just come straight out with it...RVP at 28 years old? Oscar is 21 if you want to give a clear picture why not use RVP at 21 years old I bet by that age he would have only made it to the chelsea under 21 teams. I still don't understand why some chelsea fans underrate their own players. Oneiroi and Strike 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChelseaNZ 2 Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 Think Oscar can do really big things for the club, only think I worry about is the congested midfield Chelsea seems to be creating! Hopefully they can all get time! Let me know what you think of my article!http://www.undisputedsports.com/2013/07/chelsea-youth-to-shine-bright/ Bir_CFC 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbara 15,149 Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 It wasn't a good match from him imo... he was out of position and added little to the match.I would have loved him to have played where Lamps played though. I think 4-3-3 suits him the best and the third man in the midfield is where I think he can both tackle and help defensively and also contribute offensively. Chelsea? and Jcar92 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meetdoscar 335 Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 Wasn't a good match for most of the players but you could still see him tracking back to help iva on the right wing also making clearances and if the ref had his eye glasses on he would surely have given a penalty for ramos sloppy tackle on him in the box. Barbara 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea? 892 Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 It wasn't a good match from him imo... he was out of position and added little to the match.I would have loved him to have played where Lamps played though. I think 4-3-3 suits him the best and the third man in the midfield is where I think he can both tackle and help defensively and also contribute offensively. I thought oscar was a creative force but he's not. He's a box to box guy that has potential to turn into the next lampard. Oscar is a shoot first guy, he has as much creativity has Ramirez and Lampard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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