termninja 5,290 Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 oh I misunderstood you then. Sorry No problem, I enjoy when people quote me and challenge my posts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 From the very beginning I thought we should always play Mazacar. All I needed was watch two Eden's matches and I was a gone.I agree, we don't need to be to rigid, but those natural rotating happens better then the players already know each other, when there's chemistry.I can't to see the team playing to be honest.We need to see Mourinho's hand in the team again, then we can have a more reasonable convo about formations, tactics and positions.He might even surprise us He always surprises meYeah we should wait and see what Jose's system will be. Right now, we don't even know if he's going to stick with 4-2-3-1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZOS 580 Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 Neymar requested the shirt, slightly odd, I know; but I think most people know that Oscar's more deserving of it.neymar is a cunt! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouNameIt 1,511 Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 I guess our strategy here would be to score more goals than the large amount that we will inevitably concede I dont understand why you would assume a formation like that would make us concede a large amount of goals. Please explain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif 6,006 Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 Oscar actually reminds me of in-prime Sneijder a lot. Hopefully next season we see a game or 2 in a 4-3-1-2 formation and deploy Oscar behind 2 strikers (Lukaku/Torres/Whoever comes in.) I think he'd have lots of fun in a formation like that. Barbara 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 anyone counting how many MOTM for Brazil?! I've honestly lost count already... 5-7 in a row?watching him dictate Brazil's game is such a joy. He's turning into a really cerebral creative mid! And scores too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbara 15,149 Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 Oscar actually reminds me of in-prime Sneijder a lot. Hopefully next season we see a game or 2 in a 4-3-1-2 formation and deploy Oscar behind 2 strikers (Lukaku/Torres/Whoever comes in.) I think he'd have lots of fun in a formation like that. I guess - but I'm not sure because I didn't watch the match - that's how he's playing or Brazil now, behind Hulk and Neymar.But I'd actually have to watch Brazil playing to be sure of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stingray 9,441 Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 I, for one, don't think Eden is the best playing #10, I like him better in the LW.The memories of his first games in EPL last season are so vivid in my mind. I was completely fascinated. I remember tons of plays and while that might be common for you guys, my memory sucks big time, so the fact I still remember some assists, some goals from the first five rounds, it's remarkable for my standards.Well .... That was a time he played amc ... A 10. It IS his best position. He needs the ball a LOT to perform. I also believe he can switch the flank/central role with Mata. That is a brilliant combo as we have seen. I fear for Oscar at 10 in Chelsea to be frank. He will be brilliant at it - i however believe Hazard will be more brillant at it sooner, thus cementing that poition in alternation with Hazard.I see him as an 8 ..... World class 8. Barbara 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbara 15,149 Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 Well .... That was a time he played amc ... A 10. It IS his best position. He needs the ball a LOT to perform. I also believe he can switch the flank/central role with Mata. That is a brilliant combo as we have seen. I fear for Oscar at 10 in Chelsea to be frank. He will be brilliant at it - i however believe will be more brillant at it sooner, thus cementing that poition in alternation with Hazard.I see him as an 8 ..... World class 8.I prefer Eden as a 7 but you know him better than I, so you're probably right about the 10. Stingray 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stingray 9,441 Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 I prefer Eden as a 7 but you know him better than I, so you're probably right about the 10.Well he shines as a Aml, will be world class as a 10. The way Mata and Hazard switch is an asset, not a liability. So 10-7 all the way! Barbara 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atholy 1,293 Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 Don't know if it's a repost... but still rather funny! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbara 15,149 Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 that's not even his # Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atholy 1,293 Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 that's not even his #My god lamps was having a bad when they did that shoot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Joe Cool 388 Posted June 17, 2013 Popular Post! Share Posted June 17, 2013 I dont understand why you would assume a formation like that would make us concede a large amount of goals. Please explain.Well for a few reasons. Firstly, with a back three like that, either it would have to stay really narrow or spread out and leave massive gaps. If it stays narrow, then it will get destroyed by any team with competent wide players. Now, in defense, you could say that Hazard and Schurrle could help out, but honestly, neither are well equipped to be wingbacks as they aren't too good at defending. Therefore, any overload onto either side from opposition wingers and sidebacks would leave us horribly exposed. If the back 3 spreads out a little more, then that gives more space for opposition centre-forwards to run onto, and Terry, who's legs are quite fucked, would have massive amounts of difficulty dealing with any quick centre-forward.Just look at the 3 in defense formation that Juventus uses. Lichsteiner and Peluso are more side backs than anything and their back three consists of 3 very solid and smart centre-backs. A back three consisting of one centre-back (who has absolutely no pace on him anymore) and two sidebacks with no defensive cover from the wings would get absolutely crushed. TrippingStep, The Skipper, RedWhite&BLUE and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teignman 441 Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 Also, are you a teacher as well? Because I must say as one myself, your didactic is flawless. I understood you so perfectly! I love that you brought the formations. It's easier to understand like that and I worship the ground Pirlo walks on, so using him as an example is pretty great as well.I feel accomplished with this post. Where do I save it? Liking it is definitely not enough.now do you speak Portuguese at all, or you were just trying to be nice to me?I know my English isn't that bad, but I'm so clueless about the lingo in some areas that it hurts.I'm glad that you found my post so useful. No, I am not a teacher, but I appreciate the complement.P.S. Sim, eu falo um pouco de Português, but I was also being nice to you. Barbara 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbara 15,149 Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 I'm glad that you found my post so useful. No, I am not a teacher, but I appreciate the complement.P.S. Sim, eu falo um pouco de Português, but I was also being nice to you. it helped a lot. I bookmarked the page so every time I need a refresh I'll come back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nono 791 Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 Lol. I am trembling. Not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouNameIt 1,511 Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 Well for a few reasons. Firstly, with a back three like that, either it would have to stay really narrow or spread out and leave massive gaps. If it stays narrow, then it will get destroyed by any team with competent wide players. Now, in defense, you could say that Hazard and Schurrle could help out, but honestly, neither are well equipped to be wingbacks as they aren't too good at defending. Therefore, any overload onto either side from opposition wingers and sidebacks would leave us horribly exposed. If the back 3 spreads out a little more, then that gives more space for opposition centre-forwards to run onto, and Terry, who's legs are quite fucked, would have massive amounts of difficulty dealing with any quick centre-forward.Just look at the 3 in defense formation that Juventus uses. Lichsteiner and Peluso are more side backs than anything and their back three consists of 3 very solid and smart centre-backs. A back three consisting of one centre-back (who has absolutely no pace on him anymore) and two sidebacks with no defensive cover from the wings would get absolutely crushed.You obviousley forgot that infront of these 3 defenders, there would be Luiz and another capable DM.Of course the 3 defenders would be played widely and not narrow. Luiz and another DM would cover it quite well enough (unfortunatley we dont have this "other one" at the moment though).Azpi---------Terry---------Cole------Luiz------------DM----------The way the formation would work is that we would keep more possession aswell as dominate the midfield ALOT more than we have seen Chelsea done lately, which has been one of our biggest issues tbh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 You obviousley forgot that infront of these 3 defenders, there would be Luiz and another capable DM.Of course the 3 defenders would be played widely and not narrow. Luiz and another DM would cover it quite well enough (unfortunatley we dont have this "other one" at the moment though).Azpi---------Terry---------Cole------Luiz------------DM----------The way the formation would work is that we would keep more possession aswell as dominate the midfield ALOT more than we have seen Chelsea done lately, which has been one of our biggest issues tbh.Sucidal, too many gaps in between the channels and lines. A 2 man strike force would have a field day, just doesn't work, especially with Terry there, who although might be position all astute lacks in pace. A ball over the top and it's game over. If you're going to play 3 at the back you need a narrow back 3, not a wide one. Ambitious, but just wouldn't work. Any team deploying that would get eaten alive. The only place to be, Joe Cool and OneMoSalah 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 You obviousley forgot that infront of these 3 defenders, there would be Luiz and another capable DM.Of course the 3 defenders would be played widely and not narrow. Luiz and another DM would cover it quite well enough (unfortunatley we dont have this "other one" at the moment though).Azpi---------Terry---------Cole------Luiz------------DM----------The way the formation would work is that we would keep more possession aswell as dominate the midfield ALOT more than we have seen Chelsea done lately, which has been one of our biggest issues tbh.Jesus even an Italian side from the 60's playing that formation would concede at least 5 goals a game. 3 at the back with two wing backs and a center back would be so so so so so so so so stupid, no offence. Joe Cool 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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