Sir Mikel OBE 4,920 Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 yes , i was impressed by either him or paulinho , couldnt tell who was who from where i was watchingAll the good stuff was gustavo, and all the bad outside of that wonder goal was Paulinho Paulinho looks like he wants to be a b2b midfielder rather than a destructive force like Gustavo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dion 2,476 Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 All the good stuff was gustavo, and all the bad outside of that wonder goal was Paulinho Paulinho looks like he wants to be a b2b midfielder rather than a destructive force like Gustavo.Gustavo is a beast. Paulinho's best attribute is his offensive contribution. He is very average defensively. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Mikel OBE 4,920 Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 Gustavo is a beast. Paulinho's best attribute is his offensive contribution. He is very average defensively.Hernanes can do the offensive things better, and can provide just as good of support on the defensive side.i'd play he,gustavo,oscar, and Lucas behind neymar and Fred for the confederations cup. See where that goes Dion 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Styles 9,790 Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 Gustavo is a beast. Paulinho's best attribute is his offensive contribution. He is very average defensively.Really? He looks stiff and looks nothing like an attacking player. I watched him at Club World Cup and a few times for the national team and have never been impressed by him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dion 2,476 Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 Hernanes can do the offensive things better, and can provide just as good of support on the defensive side.i'd play he,gustavo,oscar, and Lucas behind neymar and Fred for the confederations cup. See where that goes I agree with you, Hernanes is miles and miles better than Paulinho. Never rated Paulinho very highly. Hernanes defends better and is a more complete footballer, shoots with both feet, better vision, better pass, better dribble, has european experience etc. He is the closest to a deep-lying playmaker that we have.Really? He looks stiff and looks nothing like an attacking player. I watched him at Club World Cup and a few times for the national team and have never been impressed by him.Yep. He scores a lot of goals for a defensive midfielder. He already scored 2 or 3 goals for our NT and he didn't play a lot of games, like 10 or so. But he's not the type of player who will create the plays, he will make a run from behind, pick up a pass and score. I prefer Hernanes who can both create or finish the chances created. Styles 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Styles 9,790 Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 Yep. He scores a lot of goals for a defensive midfielder. He already scored 2 or 3 goals for our NT and he didn't play a lot of games, like 10 or so. But he's not the type of player who will create the plays, he will make a run from behind, pick up a pass and score. I prefer Hernanes who can both create or finish the chances created.Ramires would be better than Paulinho in that case. More dynamic.Hernanes should be a starting player, he would improve the midfield a LOT. Dion 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dion 2,476 Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 Ramires would be better than Paulinho in that case. More dynamic.Hernanes should be a starting player, he would improve the midfield a LOT.I'd have Ramires for Paulinho's role too. But Paulinho is not much worse than Ramires and he's one of the highlights of Corinthians, which means there's some pressure in Brazil for calling him. Also, there's some interest from agents and powerful people related to Corinthians for him to be played so they can get a better value in a future selling.In any case, I'd have Gustavo (maybe Lucas Leiva, I don't know how he's been playing of lately after recovering from injury) and Hernanes behind Oscar. I don't care if it would be slower, those players can control the midfield better than any other players we have.Edit: probably we should give a chance to Fernandinho and Willian too. Styles 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bir_CFC 3,455 Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 Don't know why Hernanes doesn't get more hype. He's like a Dembele but with actual end product. I think he's a BEAST and would love him at Chelsea. lucio and Dion 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Styles 9,790 Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 Oscar to ESPN Brazil: "Mourinho sent us a message telling us he was coming to Chelsea. I can't wait."Must have been a good message! Milan and Bosnian Blue 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue-in-me-Veins 4,067 Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 Pretty sure he will blossom under JM's guidance. A hard worker for the team AND gifted on the ball. Doesn't get much better than that for JM. Heisenberg 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dion 2,476 Posted June 4, 2013 Share Posted June 4, 2013 Don't know why Hernanes doesn't get more hype. He's like a Dembele but with actual end product. I think he's a BEAST and would love him at Chelsea.Well, I've heard Hernanes is praised as one of the best midfielders in Serie A. If I'm not mistaken he has been linked for a move to Juventus, Milan or Bayern. But ye, I think he's a bit underrated and unknown outside Italy. Heisenberg 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDY 1,290 Posted June 4, 2013 Share Posted June 4, 2013 Oscar does good at his team and at the club.I still find it mind boggling that some members think KDB is better then Oscar.....You say that like Oscar is better by a landslide. Both are good players with fantastic potential, it's not ludicrous to think either player is slightly better than the other. Stingray 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilvorak 3,734 Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 Can see Mou playing Oscar in his preferred #10 role in all the big games with Mata out wide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacquiao 1,834 Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 Can see Mou playing Oscar in his preferred #10 role in all the big games with Mata out wide.I agree i think Oscar or KdB will play a lot as the number 10 next season because of their defensive abilities, and i think Jose will want to sign a RW as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilvorak 3,734 Posted June 7, 2013 Share Posted June 7, 2013 Oscar playing deeper next year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmpr 8,977 Posted June 7, 2013 Share Posted June 7, 2013 You say that like Oscar is better by a landslide. Both are good players with fantastic potential, it's not ludicrous to think either player is slightly better than the other.It actually is, Oscar has a way greater potential than KDB has! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbara 15,149 Posted June 7, 2013 Share Posted June 7, 2013 I think we should be happy to have both. Kevin is awesome and my teddy bear Oscar is amazing. We're lucky to have both and if they fight for the same position in the starting XI it's our gain.I hope both not only live up their potential but surpass it as well.Competition always contributes to development and getting better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilvorak 3,734 Posted June 7, 2013 Share Posted June 7, 2013 It actually is, Oscar has a way greater potential than KDB has!Oscar is clearly the most talented #10 in the League along with Kagawa.Don't let Benitez stupidly playing him out wide fool you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubber bullets 1,183 Posted June 7, 2013 Share Posted June 7, 2013 Oscar playing deeper next year?Possibly, but then Mikel was seen as one of the most exciting prospects in football when he was seen as a number 10 player, and we all know what some Chelsea fans think of him now. I would hate it if trying him there just so we can try and accomodate him in the team (if Jose decides he does not want him as his number 10) meant it would destroy his massive potential. Joe Cool 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilvorak 3,734 Posted June 7, 2013 Share Posted June 7, 2013 Possibly, but then Mikel was seen as one of the most exciting prospects in football when he was seen as a number 10 player, and we all know what some Chelsea fans think of him now. I would hate it if trying him there just so we can try and accomodate him in the team (if Jose decides he does not want him as his number 10) meant it would destroy his massive potential.He could always rotate between a deeper role and his preferred #10. Only way to consistenly get him the games he deserves.Difference between Oscar and Mikel was Obi was told to sit back, clean up mistakes and never venture forward while Oscar could perform in a similar role to Wilshere, Gundogan, Schweinsteiger, Modric etc at their respective clubs.Still can't believe we didn't even attempt to play him even once there the whole of last season despite playing 70 games or whatever. Pathetic.Cavani/Torres/BaSchurrle Mata/Oscar HazardOscar/Lampard De Rossi/RamiresDefenseCan see that being our team next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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