Muzchap 8,966 Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 He's a solid player, anything below 10-12 million would be a bargain, not a gamble.Also, what do you mean by "another" gamble..because Lukaku was a long term signing, no one expected him to move from Belgium and immediately make it into Chelsea first team.See my other post above, Kezman, Kalou etc ...For once I want us to have a clinical, deadly striker like Man U have with RvP.Not someone who has potential, will get better etc - I want a 25 goal a season monster Just my opinion though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milan 17,959 Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 Hard to imagine a player who played in the Czech Republic to be playing in England, let alone Chelsea lol. Still weird to see Edin Dzeko, who used to play for Usti nad Labem, which is a town just a few miles from the town I was born in, wearing a Man City shirt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,887 Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 Just because he plays in Holland and Kezman had a good record in Holland then moved here and turned out to be bullshit, doesn't mean Bony will be the same! What I've heard about him is all positive, big strong, pacey, great finisher. Only a matter of time before he comes here I think. His agent stated we were following him and with our link with Vitesse I think we'll get him.Also whats with the hate on Kalou, scored vital goals from the bench, was a decent player overall. The fact we used him as winger when he was a CF didn't help either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 Van Persie, Van Nistelrooy (one of my fav strikers ever) and Suarez all came from this 'shit' Eredivisie. They were shit in england too, right?WTF is wrong with some people. If this Bony came for 20 mio, everyone would say he will be the best, but just because he is worth about 10mio and not known, you all know that he will be bad here. Cmon, it could turn to be better than Falcao or whoever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 Van Persie, Van Nistelrooy (one of my fav strikers ever) and Suarez all came from this 'shit' Eredivisie. They were shit in england too, right?WTF is wrong with some people. If this Bony came for 20 mio, everyone would say he will be the best, but just because he is worth about 10mio and not known, you all know that he will be bad here. Cmon, it could turn to be better than Falcao or whoever.Most its about the quality of player, not league. The most quality strikers will handle any leage, more or less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 Nah, we can do better. Why sign Bony when we've got better options? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 Nah, we can do better. Why sign Bony when we've got better options?which are?Schürrle? Remy? More expensive and offer less. At least little we do not already have in Sturridge. Bony for 8-10m sounds about right. We payed nearly as much for Marin and Bony is by far the better player. Another great vid. The more I watch him the more I like him as a player. His style is kinda unique, a bit more playful than drogs, but no-nonsense as well. You have to check his runs and moves right before he connects with the ball first time, he is so clever he always knows how to create space for himself in advance, that is why he always has the time to outfox the goalkeeper and make the finish even saver. This player is so versatile, he can link up with Mazacar but could also use some long, precise goals from Lamps (if he stays), which would give as an ultimate new weapon as plan B. Imagine, mazacar have not the best day while we need a goal, we can play with Lamps, Moses and Bony and make some old-fashioned Mourinho-style moves which the opponent will naturally not be used to. I know, he has weaknesses that have to be adressed. Sometimes he is sloppy or has a time off (never a game off, he often does score AND assist but rarely does none of these) and he could move and react even faster in the vicinity of the ball. But technically and physically it is all there. He does not have the same coordination problems as Lukaku and as he is not as tall can be more flexible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 My point is, if we're going to sign a striker, let's sign one that will actually lead the team from the get go... For example a Cavani or Falcao. Of course that'd mean us moving Fernando on, but I'd rather that than sign a Bony/Schurrle/Remy to be honest. I'd rather wait till the summer and sign a striker that'll overtake as our number one striker for definite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 How do you know this guy wont be better than Falcao for Chelsea?I can already see that we will go after big moneyplayer and Bony will go either to Lpool, Newcastle, Arsenal and in second season be on of the best strikers in league.Just because he is cheap, doesnt mean he is average.If he continues with scoring goals so fast, he will have more goals than Suarez had wth Ajax three seasons ago. And we all know that Suarez is becoming one of best strikers in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheva. 5,373 Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 My point is, if we're going to sign a striker, let's sign one that will actually lead the team from the get go... For example a Cavani or Falcao.Of course that'd mean us moving Fernando on, but I'd rather that than sign a Bony/Schurrle/Remy to be honest. I'd rather wait till the summer and sign a striker that'll overtake as our number one striker for definite.We can't wait till the summer, we have won many games in-spite of Torres but how long can that go on? recently he has even stopped playing well, which used to be his one saving grace for me, and just does nothing for 90 minutes.And if the Chelsea scouts have seen enough to think Bony is good enough, then i'm fine with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,887 Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 which are?Schürrle? Remy? More expensive and offer less. At least little we do not already have in Sturridge.Bony for 8-10m sounds about right. We payed nearly as much for Marin and Bony is by far the better player. Another great vid. The more I watch him the more I like him as a player. His style is kinda unique, a bit more playful than drogs, but no-nonsense as well. You have to check his runs and moves right before he connects with the ball first time, he is so clever he always knows how to create space for himself in advance, that is why he always has the time to outfox the goalkeeper and make the finish even saver. This player is so versatile, he can link up with Mazacar but could also use some long, precise goals from Lamps (if he stays), which would give as an ultimate new weapon as plan B. Imagine, mazacar have not the best day while we need a goal, we can play with Lamps, Moses and Bony and make some old-fashioned Mourinho-style moves which the opponent will naturally not be used to. I know, he has weaknesses that have to be adressed. Sometimes he is sloppy or has a time off (never a game off, he often does score AND assist but rarely does none of these) and he could move and react even faster in the vicinity of the ball. But technically and physically it is all there. He does not have the same coordination problems as Lukaku and as he is not as tall can be more flexible.What I see in that video is promising, more promising than Lukaku right now. Sign him up Roman! May sound stupid that I'm judging him from a video but his finishing is brilliant, uses strength to knock defenders off balance for some of his goals too. I might watch Vitesse vs Twente tomorrow to see him play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldChelsea 7 Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 very good player should be recruited Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,887 Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 Backwards step IMHOWe need a World Class player not another gamble...Buy good, buy onceBuy cheap, buy twice..Same rule applies here - just ask Newcastle? What do you mean? Remember Newcastle scouts scouted Yohan Cabaye and Pappis Cisse, eventually leading to them being signed for a fee smaller than what they were worth. Going on that their scouts must be very good as Cisse and Cabaye have been very very good for them so I'd imagine by the time they are being linked with Bony he must be a good enough player to lead the line for Newcastle, who are a good team at the moment, with better forwards than we have so surely he'd be worth a punt and good enough for us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waterfall 893 Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 Backwards step IMHOWe need a World Class player not another gamble...Buy good, buy onceBuy cheap, buy twice..Same rule applies here - just ask Newcastle? Let's see....Shevchenko for 30MTorres for 50MHow did these "world class" striker fare? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOSS 372 Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 We need a hungry player with good skill and good finishing and he is exactly that + he is cheap which is a bonus. I would love to see Bony here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzchap 8,966 Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 What do you mean? Remember Newcastle scouts scouted Yohan Cabaye and Pappis Cisse, eventually leading to them being signed for a fee smaller than what they were worth. Going on that their scouts must be very good as Cisse and Cabaye have been very very good for them so I'd imagine by the time they are being linked with Bony he must be a good enough player to lead the line for Newcastle, who are a good team at the moment, with better forwards than we have so surely he'd be worth a punt and good enough for us?Cisse has so far been a one season wonder, Cabaye granted is more consistent.Just don't rate him, would prefer Falcao - price is irrelevant - proven quality is what we need... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheva. 5,373 Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 Cisse has so far been a one season wonder, Cabaye granted is more consistent.Just don't rate him, would prefer Falcao - price is irrelevant - proven quality is what we need...But proven quality does not guarantee success. A lot of proven players have gone elsewhere and not done as well.Really i'd rather gamble with 10m than 60m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzchap 8,966 Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 And if he's shit and City sign Falcao who's not?That's a big fucking gamble!!!Kudos if it works - look like real fucking chumps if it don't... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,887 Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 Cisse has so far been a one season wonder, Cabaye granted is more consistent.Just don't rate him, would prefer Falcao - price is irrelevant - proven quality is what we need...Also Demba Ba, who has scored a lot of goals in the last two seasons in the PL.. Ben Arfa, Tiote and Santon too. Their scouting has been very very good. So I'd imagine they see a decent enough player in Bony to rival Cisse and Ba (who are better than Torres and Sturridge) as will our scouts so he'd probably be good enough for us going on that. We'll have to wait though, I don't think we'll buy Falcao due to FFP. If we were going to we'd have bought him in the summer I reckon.I think Bony could be that player we sign that surprises everyone. If we sign him and he scores at least 10 goals from January on wards I'd be delighted. Especially for the 8-10 million as quoted. Also you're not compared to Drogba unless your good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzchap 8,966 Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 Fine buy himAs long as we are also buying Falcao I don't really give a fuck..Heard it here first - he will be a complete waste of money - I'm happy to stand by my comment.That sums it all up nicely - wont bother again in this thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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