🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 Daniel Sturridge

[themightyblue 443]

You dont understand what Im saying. Im saying we would be better off selling Torres for ONE SINGLE EURO and keep Danny.

And no, we are definatley not fine in the striker department and ABSOLUTLEY not long term. That just shows how little you know. Torres isnt good enough for us as a second striker. He has a weak personality, we saw that when Drogba was still in Chelsea. Torres HAS to go.

Danny gave us inconsistency? You are just talking out of nothing. Just look at when he was a regular winger. He scored lots of goals, important ones, and he was very effective very often. DESPITE PLAYING OUT OF POSITION. And say what you want about him, just look at how he's played in Liverpool. He is getting regular playtime in a prefered position. Its not strange he is better.

Its the same situation as with Lukaku. Many wrote him off when he played for us, he had a poor touch etc... Well he hardly got any playtime and when he got 5mins everyone expected a Drogba-finals-performance. Just look at him now.

And regarding the RVP comparision, again you are just throwing stuff out there. Clearly clueless...

Everybody know we'd have been better off selling Torres, but we haven't! What's done is done now, having a moan about the same thing over and over again won't change that. Just get over it. Yeah in the long term we have Lukaku, Feruz, Bamford, likely to get a new striker in summer, plus Ba but yet i know little. It's funny how you like to label me clueless but yet have 'selling Danny is our biggest mistake since buying Torres' in your name despite in that period chelsea sacking Rdm, Ancelotti, hiring Benitez etc, but hey i'm clueless.

Of course Torres is good enough to be a striking option for us. 15 goals this season and your telling me he's not good enough to be an option. His problem has always been he's not good enough to be our starting striker's as an option to have he's perfectly fine.

Yeah he did give us inconsistency. He had a fantastic start last season, but tailed off after January and started missing easy chances which led to him getting dropped and not seeing much game time. He's also just started at liverpool and is keen to impress. Judge him once he's settled and got comfortable and then we'll see how truly great a striker he is. Im certainly not shedding any tears about selling Danny, especially after replacing him with Demba

[themightyblue 443]

You really need to stop with the constant insults to decent supporters. You don't seem to be able to post without doing so.

And can we get away from this notion that we simply decided to keep Torres and sell Sturridge. Sturridge's contract was expiring and there were people willing to pay double what we paid for him. That simply isn't the case with Torres (as far as I know).

Extremely childish

[ja1 1,166]

Daniel Sturridge, first 4 goals in just 7 games, £12m. Fernando Torres, first 4 goals in 43 games, £50m.

[ja1 1,166]

Can't believe people are so stubborn when it comes to Sturridge they can't even have a semblance of admittance that it could be a mistake selling him. I don't understand when they say things like ,"I don't care about Sturridge, average player, won't miss him", and then get so blatantly wound up if he even infers anything about Chelsea, or if someone says something positive about himself. They obviously care about him then. Or their pride..

People's reactions to Sturridge going is no different to people commenting on AVB/RDM compared to Rafa, while AVB is doing well, or no different to comments I see a lot about how it was a mistake to loan x and y out and keep so and so. But people just seem to be very bitter about it when it comes to Sturridge.

[ja1 1,166]

Second season in a row he's ripped City apart as well.

[BlueJewel 56]

Sturridge was never trusted by Di Matteo, by the time RDM came to his senses it was over for both him and Sturridge, I remember the West Brom away game, where Torres was useless for 60 minutes, Sturridge was shifted to the centre and Torres was subbed, the dynamics of the game changed completely. He combined almost effortlessly with Mata and could have had a hattrick in 30 minutes had it not been for some great saves by Myhill and one or two bad misses.

Sturridge has so much to his game, his passing, movement and general abilities on the ball are far greater than any English forward of his age, he'll go on to have a very successful career, it's just a shame it wouldn't be at Chelsea.

Chelsea is just to hot for a young talent to develop, Sturridge was even booed by Chelsea fans at the Bridge, the only way the club can develop young talents in the current atmosphere would be to send them on loan at clubs where there's less pressure to succeed, and come back when they're ready to secure a first team position.

[super_frank8 186]

Honestly, I don't think he should have been sold, especially not for what I consider a bargain at 12 mil - but it was inevitable considering that Rafa is somehow still sitting pretty in the dugout & that only means our perplexing persistence with Torres will continue regardless of anything else.

Shame he was never really given his chance to shine despite probably deserving it, at least more so than the 'competition' in his position this season. But yes, what's done is done - & although we're probably going to end up regretting it more than we anticipated - we're just going to have to live with the fact that Danny plays for a different team now.

But as for some of these questions being raised over his ability & talent - if you sat down & watched the entire game today - he was actually genuinely world class for the vast majority of it.

& that's not just because he scored a beastly goal either.

For all the complaints of his selfish mentality & his general inconsistency, he made some absolutely gorgeous passes with the kind of intuitive vision I have rarely seen from him before, whilst his composure & intricacy with the ball was simply outstanding at times.

Possibly most impressive of all however, was the fact that he had been carrying an injury since early in the first half - & yet his intelligent runs & all-round movement tormented the entire City backline relentlessly throughout the match. Not to mention that sumptious strike that left Joe Hart for dead.

A truly awesome performance to continue his rich vein of form at his new club; & I can only see him getting better to be honest. That is slightly worrying seeing as he now plays for one of our rivals...

I think few fans of the beautiful game can deny it is a rather wonderful thing to watch the way he just clicks with Suarez & Gerrard as if they've been playing for seasons together. Hard as it may be for me to admit it, Liverpool looked like a team gunning for the top 4 today - part of that being down to Sturridge's individual brilliance & sudden surge in form - & that has me considerably more worried about our own position due to the fact we also have Spurs, Everton & Arsenal all getting results & breathing down our neck's as well...

Just hope our old boy doesn't come back to haunt us when all is said & done.

[Mr_President 404]

I'm happy for him. He's found a club that listen to him and play him in his proper position and it looks like he will excel there now and in the future.

[The Mak 4,459]

We can say to ourselves that he wasn't up to Chelsea standards or whatever, but the fact is, he's playing brilliantly for Liverpool right now. Whoever says he's not, is clearly blind. I've one of Danny's biggest critics and, I've no shame in admitting it, City could just not handle him today.

And the fact that we sold such a versatile player is ridiculous when you see our "depth". I'd be much more comfortable selling him if we even gave him half a chance at the start of the season, but we didn't. No run of games, nothing. Not even RDM gave him a chance.

This is a scenario where I think we were better off not buying Oscar. Don't get me wrong, I love the lad, and one day he'll be great; but when it was announced that we signed him, my first question, I'm sure like many here, was: "Who is he?" and my second was "Is he a DM?". I just felt that Oscar is a bit of an overkill in the CAM department, especially since it seems it's the only position he can play. I love him, but £25m could've been better used in other areas of the squad. We could've had 2 very good or 1 world class DM for that price (Cabaye, Capoué, Beñat etc.). This probably would've given Danny more playing time too.

It's just me rambling at this point, but I'd much prefer if we had spent that money elsewhere and had Mata/Hazard for CAM/W, Moses/Sturridge/Marin for the wings and Ba/Sturridge/Torres(cunt) up front. Better yet, it'd be great if Torres fucked off at the start of the season when we could've got money for him, but now we won't even get £12m...

Anyway, I wish Danny all the best. If he keeps performing like that, surely it's another nail in the coffin of Emenalo and our board? Doubt it...

[YouNameIt 1,511]

Everybody know we'd have been better off selling Torres, but we haven't! What's done is done now, having a moan about the same thing over and over again won't change that. Just get over it. Yeah in the long term we have Lukaku, Feruz, Bamford, likely to get a new striker in summer, plus Ba but yet i know little. It's funny how you like to label me clueless but yet have 'selling Danny is our biggest mistake since buying Torres' in your name despite in that period chelsea sacking Rdm, Ancelotti, hiring Benitez etc, but hey i'm clueless.

Of course Torres is good enough to be a striking option for us. 15 goals this season and your telling me he's not good enough to be an option. His problem has always been he's not good enough to be our starting striker's as an option to have he's perfectly fine.

Yeah he did give us inconsistency. He had a fantastic start last season, but tailed off after January and started missing easy chances which led to him getting dropped and not seeing much game time. He's also just started at liverpool and is keen to impress. Judge him once he's settled and got comfortable and then we'll see how truly great a striker he is. Im certainly not shedding any tears about selling Danny, especially after replacing him with Demba

1. Again, you are missing the point. We should have kept Danny and obviousley Torres would still be in the team. Do you stand by the fact that we are going into the Europa League (after a fiasco in the CL) with just Torres as striker?

2. No, Torres isnt good enough for us as a striker option. He is too bloody expensive for that and he isnt as good as your making him. Statistics isnt what matters most of the time. How many goals did Drogba score for us the last season? Not many, but look at how important they were and in what matter he scored them. Torres is pure shit, to say he is good enough for us is to downtalk Chelsea.

3. Im talking about the fact that people say that Danny is/was overrated, despite the fact that he has spent most of his minutes for us out of position and never been given the trust or chance in his natural position. And even though we were in a dip of form, we still insisted to play that blonde cunt.

Our board is simply retarded.

[communicate 2,703]

Sturridge was never trusted by Di Matteo, by the time RDM came to his senses it was over for both him and Sturridge, I remember the West Brom away game, where Torres was useless for 60 minutes, Sturridge was shifted to the centre and Torres was subbed, the dynamics of the game changed completely. He combined almost effortlessly with Mata and could have had a hattrick in 30 minutes had it not been for some great saves by Myhill and one or two bad misses.

Sturridge has so much to his game, his passing, movement and general abilities on the ball are far greater than any English forward of his age, he'll go on to have a very successful career, it's just a shame it wouldn't be at Chelsea.

We can say to ourselves that he wasn't up to Chelsea standards or whatever, but the fact is, he's playing brilliantly for Liverpool right now. Whoever says he's not, is clearly blind. I've one of Danny's biggest critics and, I've no shame in admitting it, City could just not handle him today.

And the fact that we sold such a versatile player is ridiculous when you see our "depth". I'd be much more comfortable selling him if we even gave him half a chance at the start of the season, but we didn't. No run of games, nothing. Not even RDM gave him a chance.

This is a scenario where I think we were better off not buying Oscar. Don't get me wrong, I love the lad, and one day he'll be great; but when it was announced that we signed him, my first question, I'm sure like many here, was: "Who is he?" and my second was "Is he a DM?". I just felt that Oscar is a bit of an overkill in the CAM department, especially since it seems it's the only position he can play. I love him, but £25m could've been better used in other areas of the squad. We could've had 2 very good or 1 world class DM for that price (Cabaye, Capoué, Beñat etc.). This probably would've given Danny more playing time too.

It's just me rambling at this point, but I'd much prefer if we had spent that money elsewhere and had Mata/Hazard for CAM/W, Moses/Sturridge/Marin for the wings and Ba/Sturridge/Torres(cunt) up front. Better yet, it'd be great if Torres fucked off at the start of the season when we could've got money for him, but now we won't even get £12m...

Anyway, I wish Danny all the best. If he keeps performing like that, surely it's another nail in the coffin of Emenalo and our board? Doubt it...

I don't think oscar is the problem. Since RDM took over, he moved danny to bech player. He was first team player under AVB

[The only place to be 11,313]

He played well, but he was just an unfortunate victim of the Torres transfer. We couldn't flush a £50 million investment down the toilet without giving him more opportunities and Danny wanted to be the main striker. We did well to cash in on him when we did and we replaced him well with Ba and Moses.

Constant recriminations and 'I told you so's' are surely going to get tiresome aren't they?

[communicate 2,703]

He played well, but he was just an unfortunate victim of the Torres transfer. We couldn't flush a £50 million investment down the toilet without giving him more opportunities and Danny wanted to be the main striker. We did well to cash in on him when we did and we replaced him well with Ba and Moses.

Constant recriminations and 'I told you so's' are surely going to get tiresome aren't they?

TBF he did not really play as "striker" in liverpool. He drifted wide most of the time. I am not really sure torres was the prorblem we can always play danny on the wing

[themightyblue 443]

1. Again, you are missing the point. We should have kept Danny and obviousley Torres would still be in the team. Do you stand by the fact that we are going into the Europa League (after a fiasco in the CL) with just Torres as striker?

2. No, Torres isnt good enough for us as a striker option. He is too bloody expensive for that and he isnt as good as your making him. Statistics isnt what matters most of the time. How many goals did Drogba score for us the last season? Not many, but look at how important they were and in what matter he scored them. Torres is pure shit, to say he is good enough for us is to downtalk Chelsea.

3. Im talking about the fact that people say that Danny is/was overrated, despite the fact that he has spent most of his minutes for us out of position and never been given the trust or chance in his natural position. And even though we were in a dip of form, we still insisted to play that blonde cunt.

Our board is simply retarded.

1. See now you are a being clearer in your point. Well the fact that it seems we were desperate to get rid of Danny, gives the impression that something wasn't right behind closed doors. Otherwise we'd have fought to keep him and not sold him so lightly. Gives a bit of credence to the 'attitude' rumours

2. I'm not going to go into this. It's not downtalk to Chelsea. What i've seen from Torres is an inconsistent striker this season. One which isn't good enough to start, but one who can do a job at times. I don't like statistics but it's still a fact that he's scored 15 goals this season which is a decent tally. You obviously disagree

3. Sturridge kept on picking up little knocks. It's hard to play him when that happens

As I said earlier, all that's annoying is all of this 'I told you so' business and these comparisons with Torres. We all know Torres is shit. We all know Torres is the one who should have gone by now. We all know that Sturridge has talent. But Sturridge has gone now and he's not our player. Acknowledgement is fine, but it's just better to move on

[The Skipper 20,609]

TBF he did not really play as "striker" in liverpool. He drifted wide most of the time. I am not really sure torres was the prorblem we can always play danny on the wing

He did. Suarez played behind him, with Gerrard in the middle alongside Lucas. He was Liverpool's furthest man up. Moving into channels is just part of his game.

[communicate 2,703]

He did. Suarez played behind him, with Gerrard in the middle alongside Lucas. He was Liverpool's furthest man up. Moving into channels is just part of his game.

I agree, he played as striker when they are on defense but when they are on attack,he tends to drift wide like you said to find channel. and tends to play like a winger

[The Skipper 20,609]

I agree, he played as striker when they are on defense but when they are on attack,he tends to drift wide like you said to find channel. and tends to play like a winger

Nothing wrong with drifting out wide at all IMO. Doesn't mean you're a winger.

1) It allows and creates space for the likes of Suarez and Gerrard who are lethal around the box.

2) It's a trademark move of a famous Arsenal legend. Didn't make him any less of a striker!

[communicate 2,703]

Nothing wrong with drifting out wide at all IMO. Doesn't mean you're a winger.

1) It allows and creates space for the likes of Suarez and Gerrard who are lethal around the box.

2) It's a trademark move of famous Arsenal legend. Didn't make him any less of a striker!

Yap, I actually like that he is drifting wide. Because his main strength is on his speed which he can utilize better on the wing.

It really does not matter what you called him, winger striker. In my OP I just want to point out that he has tendency to drift wide.

[Muzchap 8,966]

Nothing wrong with drifting out wide at all IMO. Doesn't mean you're a winger.

1) It allows and creates space for the likes of Suarez and Gerrard who are lethal around the box.

2) It's a trademark move of famous Arsenal legend. Didn't make him any less of a striker!

This!!!

World Class Strikers find space, link-up play and then get into the box or a goal scoring position...

We've just watched too much Torres...

I thought Danny was amazing today, held the ball up well, played in his team mates and got MOTM.

Yes, the right thing to do was sell him as he wasnt going to be played for whatever reason - I'm fine that he had an attitude problem, if you were a gifted striker made to sit on the bench whilst Goldibollox played week in week out - wouldn't you be pissed off? I know I would.

So I think it was a 'forced' mistake (only option) I wish him well - especially for England!!!

Just think people need to stop slagging him off - he's proved everybody wrong with a good run of games - shame we couldn't do it

Bringing Duff + Bridge into it is silly, this is a young player, not a has-been

[super_frank8 186]

Yap, I actually like that he is drifting wide. Because his main strength is on his speed which he can utilize better on the wing.

It really does not matter what you called him, winger striker. In my OP I just want to point out that he has tendency to drift wide.

Bollocks his main strength is his speed.

It may be a major asset & an aspect of his game, but clearly you weren't watching the match today because he picked up a niggling injury in the first half & could barely sprint for the rest of the game - yet it didn't stop him finding space & eluding the City defence with his instinctive movement & some lovely touches - & most impressively distributing to his teammates with the kind of incredible passes that you would expect from top class European playmakers - rather than an English forward.

He put in the performance of his life today - & it had nothing to do with simply outrunning his opponents with sheer pace down the wings.

Sorry if I come off as harsh in this post, but I feel that you're simply trivialising him as this pure pace-demon, which is unfair & somewhat derogatory towards him as the far more complete player he is in reality.

He drops into deeper & wider positions to pick up the ball & link up the play like any top class ball-playing forward does to provide an extra option to the midfielders & help relieve pressure so his team can build an attack - & he did that brilliantly today.