Rumoured Luke Shaw

[Fernando 6,585]

Indeed I agree with TX. United have spent this some of money on English talent twice, once on Rio an once on 18 yo Rooney.. It's very hard to argue that over the span of their United careers that wasn't a worthwhile investment.

I think it's quite unfair comparing Shaw to Rio or Rooney.

If anything at this moment, Shaw would fall under the Phil Jones and Jordan Henderson of this world.

Has not shown enough to be in that bracket yet, IMHO.

[Term-X 7,891]

Indeed I agree with TX. United have spent this some of money on English talent twice, once on Rio an once on 18 yo Rooney.. It's very hard to argue that over the span of their United careers that wasn't a worthwhile investment.

English talent comes around once in a blue moon, you just have to roll the dice when it does. The board played it safe here, and it'll come back to bite.

[LDN Blue 7,903]

I think it's quite unfair comparing Shaw to Rio or Rooney.

If anything at this moment, Shaw would fall under the Phil Jones and Jordan Henderson of this world.

Has not shown enough to be in that bracket yet, IMHO.

Has he not? He's been consistent over 2 seasons and he doesn't look like he's slowing down. Agree Rio was prominent longer before United moved on but Rooney wasn't.. I'd say in terms of impact Shaw and Rooney are on par with exposure and consistency.

[LDN Blue 7,903]

English talent comes around once in a blue moon, you just have to roll the dice when it does. The board played it safe here, and it'll come back to bite.

What we saved in value for buying/trading for Ashley Cole we should invest in his heir to Chelsea's LB role. Shaw does justice to replacing Cole in the long term.

[The only place to be 11,313]

English talent comes around once in a blue moon, you just have to roll the dice when it does. The board played it safe here, and it'll come back to bite.

How good could Jay Dasilva be in your opinion?

[Term-X 7,891]

How good could Jay Dasilva be in your opinion?

Honestly don't have any hope of us bringing through any youths without them first proving themselves for at least two seasons at another 'competitive' club. Which is why I had a laugh at the homegrown rule thread, with people referencing Josh and co; suggesting we let them rot on the bench just to fulfil the quota.

[The only place to be 11,313]

Honestly don't have any hope of us bringing through any youths without them first proving themselves for at least two seasons at another 'competitive' club. Which is why I had a laugh at the homegrown rule thread, with people referencing Josh and co; suggesting we let them rot on the bench just to fulfil the quota.

That's a fair point, but the club have said they want to bring through their own youngsters...punting £30 million plus £100K wages (more than Terry, Cahill, Matic, Azpi and even Lamps are reported to be on) just doesn't fit our model.

[AndersonBLUE 819]

£30 million is outrageous. We have far bigger concerns than the LB position. Lets get our strikers and midfield sorted out first.

[Chelsea Legend 11 4,062]

Pretty much this. The type of commitment to Shaw is a massive hit on the annual finances not just this year, but the next 3 years (the amortised transfer fee would reduce after he signed a new contract around this time) and if his wages start at £100k p/w as an 18 year old then what on Earth will he expect at 22?

If we went for someone like Filipe Luis then we're probably stronger as a team in the short-term. The reason many of us were so keen on Shaw was that LB seemed to be a position we weren't exactly stuffed with in the academy ranks. Now we seem to have a couple of really promising youngsters in Aina and Dasilva who are maybe 2-3 years away from consideration for the first team, whilst Ake has also been deployed at left-back this year.

It puts a £30 million (plus wages) gamble on an 18 year old into context, when we could get the left-back of the Spanish league Champions (and potentially the Champions League winners) for roughly HALF of that.

I see what you're saying but why are you so hellbent on us signing a 30yr old? you have any idea how sharp the drop off can be at that age? Also for someone his age trying to come over and adjust to a new league isn't really the best idea. This only works if you still see Azpi as the 1st choice.

[Chelsea Legend 11 4,062]

In a few years time it's gonna get to the stage where we only have an aging Gary Cahill representing this 'english' club. Talents like Shaw don't come around everyday, spanish sides have that luxury.. but not us.

Shame he's off to United, would have been a great investment football-wise for the next 10 years and culturally. Fuck the board.

Can you tell me what he excels at?

[The only place to be 11,313]

I see what you're saying but why are you so hellbent on us signing a 30yr old? you have any idea how sharp the drop off can be at that age? Also for someone his age trying to come over and adjust to a new league isn't really the best idea. This only works if you still see Azpi as the 1st choice.

Luis? He'll be 29 and he's proven at the top level. I'd like to see us develop a few of the youngsters like Kalas and Zouma next season so we could do with a bit more experience whilst giving time to a few of the other young lads in the academy.

[Chelsea Legend 11 4,062]

Luis? He'll be 29 and he's proven at the top level. I'd like to see us develop a few of the youngsters like Kalas and Zouma next season so we could do with a bit more experience whilst giving time to a few of the other young lads in the academy.

YES, I hear that.

[boshman 1,073]

are we wanting a starting LB or a back up .. Azpi seemed to do a good job last year in keeping Ash benched . So do we sign someone and bench Dave ??

don't talk rotation because Jose doesn't rotate the back 5

IF Azpi did that well at LB then how good will he be at his natural RB?

[Fernando 6,585]

Luis? He'll be 29 and he's proven at the top level. I'd like to see us develop a few of the youngsters like Kalas and Zouma next season so we could do with a bit more experience whilst giving time to a few of the other young lads in the academy.

This would be vital for Mourinho if he wants to settle at a club for a long time, then just 3 years or so.

He needs to help bring in younger players to offset the cost of buying expensive targets.

[sherry33 234]

Over 10 years he is, £30m is a bargain. Less headaches with the homegrown quota too, plus the Chelsea die hards/season ticket holders get to keep their english core.

In 2024, when he becomes a United legend like Rio after his mega money move from Leeds, we'll see what people think of that price tag.

And how do you know he will turn up to be a world class player? He could very well be the next Bertrand as far as im concerned. We will get Barkley and a english gk and solve our problems.