TorontoChelsea 4,064 Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Said hes a Chelsea fan on twitter. Don't think hes as good as everyone makes out, overhyped like most young English players, he had a good game against us so another thread... might as well sign Ricky Lambert too then...He's looked good almost every time I've seen him...and he's 17 and starting in the Premier League. He might not develop, but he's showing a lot at a very young age. I'd take Lambert too. Would be a perfect cheap backup to Ba. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Armour 4,448 Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Interesting target, and I thought we were in for him at one point..BUT........He's recently signed a new contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shogun 721 Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 He said he's signing a five year contract when he turns 18 too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLion. 21,491 Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Amazing to see how Shaw is streets ahead of Bertrand and is six years younger... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Merged with the other 'Luke Shaw' thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mybodyisready 155 Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Shaw > Bertrand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouNameIt 1,511 Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 overhyped Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teignman 441 Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Amazing to see how Shaw is streets ahead of Bertrand and is six years younger...Quite. Shaw is also blessed with a lot more raw pace than Bertie, which helps immensely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Shaw is also blessed with a lot more raw pace than BertieNot quite. Bertrand is, with Ramires, the fastest in our team. According to Frank, anyway. On Luke, leave the poor boy alone. He's doing very well at such a young age; no need to bring him here and ruin his career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mediator 2,026 Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Not quite. Bertrand is, with Ramires, the fastest in our team. According to Frank, anyway. On Luke, leave the poor boy alone. He's doing very well at such a young age; no need to bring him here and ruin his career.i can't imagine Ramires and Bertrand faster than Hazard...And do you really think that they are faster than Moses? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Yeah, a young inexperienced no mental strength player is exactly what we need now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Yeah, a young inexperienced no mental strength player is exactly what we need now.It's very rare you find 17 year olds with bags of experience, but I think people who want us to buy this kid are thinking a bit further than this season.Not sure what you're on about with a lack of mental strength - he's done well at a young age in a tough situation. I'd take him in a heartbeat not just because he's looked very accomplished when I've seen him, but because he's English and he's also a Chelsea supporter. We are going to need a new left-back if Ashley leaves. Personally I'd like to see him stay and get this kid as backup.No offence to Bertrand but he's going to be 24 before the start of next season and he's still not exactly shown a huge amount in his time here. The best compliment I can give him is that most of the time he looks dependable. Shaw looks exciting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 i can't imagine Ramires and Bertrand faster than Hazard... And do you really think that they are faster than Moses? I think they are mate. Eden has acceleration but not raw pace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 It's very rare you find 17 year olds with bags of experience, but I think people who want us to buy this kid are thinking a bit further than this season.Not sure what you're on about with a lack of mental strength - he's done well at a young age in a tough situation. I'd take him in a heartbeat not just because he's looked very accomplished when I've seen him, but because he's English and he's also a Chelsea supporter. We are going to need a new left-back if Ashley leaves. Personally I'd like to see him stay and get this kid as backup.No offence to Bertrand but he's going to be 24 before the start of next season and he's still not exactly shown a huge amount in his time here. The best compliment I can give him is that most of the time he looks dependable. Shaw looks exciting.Fair enough, I can see where you're coming from. But at some point we need to start thinking about the present, not the future. Our last 2 season buys have been aimed at only for the future. I have a genuine concern of becoming a chaotic version of Arsenal - once threatening to dominate, then fading away into a team which serves as a platform for players to jump to better places. All we need for that downward spiral to kickstart is miss out on CL for one season and start being content with top 4 finishes season after season. I admit I know nothing about this Shaw guy, but if he is genuinely a talent with good work ethic and mentality and not just another English hype who will fade into obscurity, and if the price is right, then why not get him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bir_CFC 3,455 Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 i can't imagine Ramires and Bertrand faster than Hazard...And do you really think that they are faster than Moses?Not sure about Bertrand but Ramires definitely has everyone pipped when it comes to speed. Hazard has the best acceleration though. Mata also has great acceleration, but his speed is nowhere near Hazard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 17? Blah I'm getting older.I like to see him play for Chelsea one day but he seems pretty set on playing for Soton for a while longer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Amazing to see how Shaw is streets ahead of Bertrand and is six years younger...Streets ahead? Hyperbole much. He's not at all. IMO if Bertrand was at Southampton he'd probably be their starting left back. Ryan has barely played left back this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheva. 5,373 Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 He's good but we already have a young LB in Bertrand, we need someone more experienced ahead of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Williams 166 Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 I honestly can't see bertrand taking over the role of Cole, it would be a big drop in quality imo, and I can't see him improving that much in the next couple of years. Don't get me wrong, he is/will be a solid defender, and could start in plenty of EPL teams, but I think if Chelsea wants to be world class they will have to have word class or near world class players in every position, so if not Shaw, we need someone for that position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waterfall 893 Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 This kid is so impressive, I wish we could secure his rights and loan him back to Southampton or something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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