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I kinda think he's off. He's said in the past that he'll only leave after winning the league, well we might win the double. RM probably want a player to start to replace Ronaldo, Bale's always injured, he'll play a lot there. 

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32 minutes ago, It's too big said:

 

Kristof is an arrogant prick who has his own agenda. He's a London based Belgian journalist who reports on Belgians in England. Trust me, he doesn't know anything about this situation but likes to pretend to be ITK. 

It's best not even discussing it anymore. Hazard has been linked with them a thousand times in the past and has "signed" a hundred times more. Pointless discussing it until we hear from the horses mouth at the end of the season. 

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I think there is genuine interest from Real and mainly Zidane, in Eden so if there was to be a bid deemed acceptable enough, I would imagine he'd go. No disrespect to Conte or Chelsea but Real Madrid, one of the household names in world football and Zidane, Eden's childhood hero, as his manager? Do people think he really would be 100% for staying? Not a chance. It would be the same if it were Barcelona. No clubs bar maybe Bayern and United (probably more of old) in terms of global stature can compete with these two on any level. 

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I'm really surprised. Why everyone has already sold him?

He's said many times he doesn't want to leave at the moment and he'll say if he wants to(as he did at Lille). He won't play in this RM team. He values his family a lot and it is reported he loves the fact they are settled in London. There is actually ZERO real indication that he, himself, wants to leave. On top of that, the club do NOT want to sell and want to give him a new contract. So, what am I missing here?

 

Note, that I have said, that at some point he will leave for Real, but let's be honest, why now? I just makes NO sense. And people actually want us to replace him with Isco? You know how reactionary people are, just because he's dropped fantastic performances in recent weeks. Isco is nowhere near Eden and I'm one of his biggest fans.

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You're perhaps missing that 8 out of 10 players can't highlight any other club they'd feel prouder to represent; Zidane is his idol, everyone from here to Australia knows he'd win more trophies there and as a respectable sportsman, that's logically what he'd chase. The fact that the quality of life is better there regardless of his family being settled here, the fact it's right beside France of his native tongue, the fact he'd finally have the marketing power to be considered the best in the world - if that's what he wants. 

He might stay, he might go. But to presume that he'll 'clearly' do either is silly. And to disregard the points I just highlighted is silly. To not find it fishy that he hasn't just said 'Madrid? That was my dream club - until I moved to Chelsea.' is fishy.

A player tells you proudly when they want to be at your club for life, either through their words or actions. In our current team, those consist of - Cahill, Terry, Moses, and Kante I'm sure. Before, from Drogba to Cole to Terry to Lampard, we had clear messages of - 'WE WANT TO STAY. FANS, YOU BETTER DAMN CONVINCE ROMAN NOT TO MAKE US LEAVE, WE LOVE IT HERE.' There is none of that from Hazard. He goes with the flow; and if the flow means Madrid knocking at his door, obviously he's going to entertain it.

I think there's more signs in the universe that he'll end up leaving us while retaining incredible value, than there are signs he'll be staying here 'forever' like our old guard, dropping in value, then being shipped off to some small team. I mean which story reads better? And as humans, aren't we all trying to write the most incredible story we can for our lives? I'd rather tell my grandkid I played for Real Madrid than for Chelsea, even if I had a better bond with CFC. Why do you think Suarez happily left Liverpool for Barcelona? Why did Bale leave Tottenham for Madrid? Why did Ronaldo leave Manchester for Madrid? Answer me why, other than those being absolutely shit cities (as is London, truly), and then answer me why Eden is different. Because he's more carefree & less intense? For me, those ingredients are a recipe for a lack of passion - which is fine - just don't expect it to be there! 

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29 minutes ago, LondonsFinest said:

I'm really surprised. Why everyone has already sold him?

He's said many times he doesn't want to leave at the moment and he'll say if he wants to(as he did at Lille). He won't play in this RM team. He values his family a lot and it is reported he loves the fact they are settled in London. There is actually ZERO real indication that he, himself, wants to leave. On top of that, the club do NOT want to sell and want to give him a new contract. So, what am I missing here?

 

Note, that I have said, that at some point he will leave for Real, but let's be honest, why now? I just makes NO sense. And people actually want us to replace him with Isco? You know how reactionary people are, just because he's dropped fantastic performances in recent weeks. Isco is nowhere near Eden and I'm one of his biggest fans.

Calm your ass, no one said Isco is as good as Hazard or want him to replace Eden. It was if you are going to lose Hazard then getting Isco in return would soften the blow somewhat. 

Isco is a great player in his own right, not as impactful and influential as Hazard, but he can do things Hazard couldn't do from creativity and passing.

If Isco wasent at Real Madrid, he would Walk in to Barcelona midfield. He is a great player.

if you admit Hazard will one day move to Madrid, what is wrong with the timing? When is a better time?

He has proven everything in England, only critique of him is unproven in CL. Can Chelsea challenge with the best of them and does Hazard believe it?

 

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Isco is excellent really. If there is any movement with Hazard, we should ask for Isco and Morata plus money. 

 

As for Hazard, I don't think he will leave us this summer, he would probably want to see what he can do with us in the Champions League and then see.

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1 hour ago, Leif said:

Before, from Drogba to Cole to Terry to Lampard, we had clear messages of - 'WE WANT TO STAY. FANS, YOU BETTER DAMN CONVINCE ROMAN NOT TO MAKE US LEAVE, WE LOVE IT HERE.'

DD, JT and Lamps all flirted with various clubs (Inter, Barcelona, Man City from the top of my head) to leverage their contracts. I don't think JT ever seriously considered leaving, but DD and Lamps have admitted that at a certain point they were considering the offers (Drogba at the beginning of his Chels career and after Jose left, Lampard after Jose left). Lampard also with that City fiasco. So even our most die-hard legends at one point weren't as loyal as we think, but because they eventually stayed and went on to cement their legendary status further, we ignore that fact.

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2 hours ago, Clockwork said:

Calm your ass, no one said Isco is as good as Hazard or want him to replace Eden. It was if you are going to lose Hazard then getting Isco in return would soften the blow somewhat. 

Isco is a great player in his own right, not as impactful and influential as Hazard, but he can do things Hazard couldn't do from creativity and passing.

If Isco wasent at Real Madrid, he would Walk in to Barcelona midfield. He is a great player.

if you admit Hazard will one day move to Madrid, what is wrong with the timing? When is a better time?

He has proven everything in England, only critique of him is unproven in CL. Can Chelsea challenge with the best of them and does Hazard believe it?

 

Mate, I am the guy who was spreading Isco propaganda 24/7, so what is your problem? 

 

As I said, these are YOUR thoughts, not facts. So, how does that deny what I just said? 

 

Another extremely rude, knee-jerk reaction from professors on here. This forum's really turned into something else.

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I think Hazard will be here next year then after World Cup 2018 he will want to move as the next big Galactico. Surely Ronaldo will have moved to striker by then which would give them Hazard/Ronaldo/Bale(and whoever else they buy). He will be 27 and ready for a new challenge, hopefully then Conte will have established his style of play and the board can support him with what we need to be successful moving forward. 

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2 hours ago, LondonsFinest said:

Mate, I am the guy who was spreading Isco propaganda 24/7, so what is your problem? 

 

As I said, these are YOUR thoughts, not facts. So, how does that deny what I just said? 

 

Another extremely rude, knee-jerk reaction from professors on here. This forum's really turned into something else.

Calm your ass; I use that phrase quite often with my friends when they get heated or overreact over silly and random stuff. It wasent ment to be rude, without vocal  tone I see it has no place on the forum. So I apologize.

Word of advice though you should reread your own posts before calling others rude.

Not everybody has sold Hazard, one poster said it best this speculation will only rest this summer; when Hazard makes it definitive. I think he will stay but it wouldn't surprise if he left.

 

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