Eden Hazard

[iseah100 5,612]

His goalscoring record is great but like you say with KDB and Oscar when you keep defending Oscar, do you really think Neymar would flourish in our joke of a team right now? He probably would have more goals but he is in a team that knows how to play football and will get loads of attacking freedom for fun.

Pretty much. I want Hazard to go to Real or Bayern to show everyone what he's capable of.

[Stats 7,059]

Pretty much. I want Hazard to go to Real or Bayern to show everyone what he's capable of.

Well I don't want it to happen but he would show his true quality. Comparing Hazard stats with Neymar right now is like comparing Benteke when he was at Villa and Aguero at City. One team plays football while the other one does not know how to so of cours Aguero will have more goals. That is not a discredit to Neymar, His form has been excellent and he is a terrific player but even he would struggle in this team right now. I am sure of that.

[Oscar 441]

His goalscoring record is great but like you say with KDB and Oscar when you keep defending Oscar, do you really think Neymar would flourish in our joke of a team right now? He probably would have more goals but he is in a team that knows how to play football and will get loads of attacking freedom for fun.

Neymar has been europe's best player since Messi got injured.....

Since messi's injury, he has 10 goals and 6 assists to his name in 7 matches. They lost once to sevilla, which was pure luck. In addition, to neymar's goalscoring, your favorite thing, stats...

vs seville. 6key passes

vs rayo. 4 key passes

vs eibar. 5 key passes

vs getafe: 3 key passes

vs villarreal. 6 key passes

he's avg a little under 5 kpg. He's been barcelona best player since Messi's injury and has carried them along with suarez and busquets.

[Stats 7,059]

Neymar has been europe's best player since Messi got injured.....

Since messi's injury, he has 10 goals and 6 assists to his name in 7 matches. They lost once to sevilla, which was pure luck. In addition, to neymar's goalscoring, your favorite thing, stats...

vs seville. 6key passes

vs rayo. 4 key passes

vs eibar. 5 key passes

vs getafe: 3 key passes

vs villarreal. 6 key passes

he's avg a little under 5 kpg. He's been barcelona best player since Messi's injury and has carried them along with suarez and busquets.

Well played. Like I said though, put him in our team and see what happens. Put Hazard is that team and I guarantee you his key passes is the same if not probably more than that.

[Oscar 441]

Regarding PSG, a lot of rumors out that Ronaldo will join them next season....

At the end of the PSG-Real match, Ronaldo went straight to Blanc and had a little chit chat with him

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84KpuU-412A

[Sir Mikel OBE 4,920]

Neymar has been europe's best player since Messi got injured.....

Since messi's injury, he has 10 goals and 6 assists to his name in 7 matches. They lost once to sevilla, which was pure luck. In addition, to neymar's goalscoring, your favorite thing, stats...

vs seville. 6key passes

vs rayo. 4 key passes

vs eibar. 5 key passes

vs getafe: 3 key passes

vs villarreal. 6 key passes

he's avg a little under 5 kpg. He's been barcelona best player since Messi's injury and has carried them along with suarez and busquets.

He needs to show up in 3 days if Brazil stands any chance in Buenos Aires.

[robsblubot 3,539]

Hazard can be a fantastic player when fit, but Neymar is better in almost every aspect of the game, imo.

Aside from scoring, neymar technique is superior esp first touch as he often controls the football from a long ball in pace without missing a beat.

This is very rare and only seen the likes of Romario and fat Ronaldo do it consistently (aside from messi). Even slim Ronaldo doesn't do that very often.

Hazard on the other hand takes a little longer to control and turn - many a times he comes to a complete stop.

Some will say it's style but I'd disagree. Speed of execution is key especially in Moderns game.

[kmk108 1,186]

Hazard can be a fantastic player when fit, but Neymar is better in almost every aspect of the game, imo.

Aside from scoring, neymar technique is superior esp first touch as he often controls the football from a long ball in pace without missing a beat.

This is very rare and only seen the likes of Romario and fat Ronaldo do it consistently (aside from messi). Even slim Ronaldo doesn't do that very often.

Hazard on the other hand takes a little longer to control and turn - many a times he comes to a complete stop.

Some will say it's style but I'd disagree. Speed of execution is key especially in Moderns game.

Especially when you're just going to get mauled off the ball when someone like Charlie Adam gets to you. The few turns and touch and go's that Hazard had were a fresh sight to see. When he gives the defenders a chance to come up to him, he's usually getting himself into a bind that only passing away will solve.

[Oscar 441]

Hazard can be a fantastic player when fit, but Neymar is better in almost every aspect of the game, imo.

Aside from scoring, neymar technique is superior esp first touch as he often controls the football from a long ball in pace without missing a beat.

This is very rare and only seen the likes of Romario and fat Ronaldo do it consistently (aside from messi). Even slim Ronaldo doesn't do that very often.

Hazard on the other hand takes a little longer to control and turn - many a times he comes to a complete stop.

Some will say it's style but I'd disagree. Speed of execution is key especially in Moderns game.

I said this before.

Hazard has better close control dribbling and holdup play because of his height/size. However, outside of that, I really do not see anything else hazard is better than neymar in.

[Roquila 1,335]

Hazard is great and all but come on, Neymar is on another level.

[zolayes 14,489]

WHY this need to drag Neymar into this thread ,,, We have Hazard we should use him properly ..

At the time I didnt want us to sign Neymar I felt his attitude was wrong . Well I was wrong he has proved to be superb at Barcelona who have used his talents and he has fitted in well . Pity our manager isnt as good at accomodating creative attacking players.

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WHY this need to drag Neymar into this thread ,,, We have Hazard we should use him properly ..

At the time I didnt want us to sign Neymar I felt his attitude was wrong . Well I was wrong he has proved to be superb at Barcelona who have used his talents and he has fitted in well . Pity our manager isnt as good at accomodating creative attacking players.

I think people brought Neymar in during the top5 vs top10 whatever discussions... then it stuck.

Agree on Hazard - fantastic player and should be given special attention: development and form.

Christian Vieri said it best: most chelsea players looked unfit at the start of the season, Hazard included. We need to find out why and correct the problem so it will never happen again.

@Oscar, fair enough but I cannot possibly following this thread... I have full time job.

[kmk108 1,186]

Hazard can be given special attention, but it can only go so far if he's willing to work at it. It seems like his current attitude toward the game is that he's a great player that cares about the game, but not enough to stick around and work to get better. He'd rather go home and spend time with his family than stay at training and work to get better.

Time will tell if he has a change in attitude. The last couple of games since his benching have shown signs of progression back to what we saw of Hazard last year, but he still has a ways to go.

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Hazard can be given special attention, but it can only go so far if he's willing to work at it. It seems like his current attitude toward the game is that he's a great player that cares about the game, but not enough to stick around and work to get better. He'd rather go home and spend time with his family than stay at training and work to get better.

Time will tell if he has a change in attitude. The last couple of games since his benching have shown signs of progression back to what we saw of Hazard last year, but he still has a ways to go.

That is my impression as well. It will limit him as a player.

However, this season was a team/club issue and not hazard only. I just hope the club knows what went wrong and are addressing it even if the real reasons never come out.

[DYC. 7,542]

Hazard can be a fantastic player when fit, but Neymar is better in almost every aspect of the game, imo.

Aside from scoring, neymar technique is superior esp first touch as he often controls the football from a long ball in pace without missing a beat.

This is very rare and only seen the likes of Romario and fat Ronaldo do it consistently (aside from messi). Even slim Ronaldo doesn't do that very often.

Hazard on the other hand takes a little longer to control and turn - many a times he comes to a complete stop.

Some will say it's style but I'd disagree. Speed of execution is key especially in Moderns game.

You mean like this? I've never seen him struggle with those kind of balls or miss a beat like you put it.

I disagree with the part on Neymar's first touch. I've seen the ball escape from him quite a few times. I don't think of him when I think of players with an extraordinary touch and ball control. But he is getting better and better.

Cristiano's Ronaldo touch is pretty much flawless. This was only recently against Sevilla:

See 00:41. He does that all the time really.

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You mean like this? I've never seen him struggle with those kind of balls or miss a beat like you put it.

I disagree with the part on Neymar's first touch. I've seen the ball escape from him quite a few times. I don't think of him when I think of players with an extraordinary touch and ball control. But he is getting better and better.

Cristiano's Ronaldo touch is pretty much flawless. This was only recently against Sevilla:

See 00:41. He does that all the time really.

Agree to disagree on both counts ... I said consistently. All players from time to time mishandle the football, just some less than others.

Hazard score few goals for a guy whose first touch is as good as you claim it is. His numbers just don't add up with it is said of him around here.

I get to watch Ronaldo in Derby or finals and not impressed by his technique - first touch included. He's quite effective because of his atlethicism and his good (not great ) technique combined.

[The Skipper 20,593]

Agree to disagree on both counts ... I said consistently. All players from time to time mishandle the football, just some less than others.

Hazard score few goals for a guy whose first touch is as good as you claim it is. His numbers just don't add up with it is said of him around here.

I get to watch Ronaldo in Derby or finals and not impressed by his technique - first touch included. He's quite effective because of his atlethicism and his good (not great ) technique combined.

Having an amazing first touch really doesn't correlate to goal scoring.

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Having an amazing first touch really doesn't correlate to goal scoring.

It correlates to everything including scoring... It doesn't determine but def correlates.

The first touch can be the first dribble, to avoid the tackle and get you open to score. Romario was all about his first touch which was also often his final touch when he applied the finish.

First touch at the very least gives you more time to think and act. Esp today when you have so little time on the ball especially up front. See? Forarders have even less time on the ball - tight spaces - which makes the first touch even more important.

@DYC, just watched ronaldo first touch from that long ball in the beginning of the game (on bein sports) and don't get me wrong it was good, but he needed a second one to adjust for the shot. Had the first touch been enough and he might have taken the shot at the time of the second touch - which might've made the difference.