the wes 7,212 Posted April 10, 2016 Author Share Posted April 10, 2016 6 hours ago, Special Juan said: Two of the biggest fall from graces are us as champions and Hazard. Matic has fall from grace as well he's been shocking this season from being one of the best midfielders in the PL till Mikel taking his place in the team kellzfresh and Beigl 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 It's pointless to speculate what happened. It's definitely not a coincidence that all players suffered a big loss in performance levels (Willian being the only exception). Something caused it, it's not possible for us to know what, but for me the most likely explanation is a combination of things: short pre-season resulting bad fitness; season starting on a negative (Evagate); consecutive bad results snowballing and affecting confidence; possibly some of them disagreeing with Jose's methods. I think these are the most likely explanations for their fall from grace. Hazard and Matic don't seem to have the mental strength to recover, while the likes of Fabregas and Costa have it and have recovered. These four were our most important players last season along with JT, so it's no surprise we were relegation fodder at one point. With ~half of them having recovered, we're now 10th - seems about right. We would still have needed Hazard, Matic, JT, Ivanovic and Oscar to reach their true levels, but I'm afraid it hasn't happened, so we are where we deserve to be. Beigl 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stingray 9,441 Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 It's pointless to speculate what happened. It's definitely not a coincidence that all players suffered a big loss in performance levels (Willian being the only exception). Something caused it, it's not possible for us to know what, but for me the most likely explanation is a combination of things: short pre-season resulting bad fitness; season starting on a negative (Evagate); consecutive bad results snowballing and affecting confidence; possibly some of them disagreeing with Jose's methods. I think these are the most likely explanations for their fall from grace. Hazard and Matic don't seem to have the mental strength to recover, while the likes of Fabregas and Costa have it and have recovered. These four were our most important players last season along with JT, so it's no surprise we were relegation fodder at one point. With ~half of them having recovered, we're now 10th - seems about right. We would still have needed Hazard, Matic, JT, Ivanovic and Oscar to reach their true levels, but I'm afraid it hasn't happened, so we are where we deserve to be. What we do know is that there has been a consistent injury (the hip). I do believe this is it. A guy like eden with a hip problem that affects mobility and speed? I hurt my hip and I have gone from (very low) national footie to pub level - now at 39 i can't even ride a bike because of the lack of motion. Im older, a guy like Eden in his mid 20' with proper medical care should bounce right back. Im glad nobody plays him now (nt and CFC). Lets get him up for next season, bring it on - he would be rearing to go after such a while. Just get him a good preseason - mmm the NT- and we will see. 11Drogba and manpe 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 41 minutes ago, Stingray said: Lets get him up for next season, bring it on - he would be rearing to go after such a while. Let's just hope the Euros won't come for him at a bad time. We've seen players rush their comebacks to get ready for such tournaments at the sake of their long-term fitness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chelseafan26 293 Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 12 minutes ago, LDN Blue said: Let's just hope the Euros won't come for him at a bad time. We've seen players rush their comebacks to get ready for such tournaments at the sake of their long-term fitness. Does it matter. Would he be played ahead of carrasco, kdb, origi, mertens or for that matter, thorgan? I dont give it a chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! LDN Blue 7,903 Posted April 10, 2016 Popular Post! Share Posted April 10, 2016 1 minute ago, chelseafan26 said: Does it matter. Would he be played ahead of carrasco, kdb, origi, mertens or for that matter, thorgan? I dont give it a chance. Of course he will. He's still one of their most talented players, in any normal case him going away with the international team would be good for him, but in a time of injury.. Listen I get why people are mad at Hazard for not performing this season, it's justified. But to suggest the talent isn't there and that he's already finished is a fallacy, one we shouldn't entertain. Hybrid Angel, manpe, Blue Armour and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chelseafan26 293 Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 13 hours ago, LDN Blue said: Of course he will. He's still one of their most talented players, in any normal case him going away with the international team would be good for him, but in a time of injury.. Listen I get why people are mad at Hazard for not performing this season, it's justified. But to suggest the talent isn't there and that he's already finished is a fallacy, one we shouldn't entertain. No one is denying his talent but there is something called FORM which should not be overlooked. Carrasco is a special talent too, as is KDb and both of them are right now at the top of their form. Kdb has comeback from his injury looking like a man-possessed. Mertens is a good bench player and thorgan currently looks like another real talent. Why would a sane minded manager waste such talents on the bench/reserves so that an year long out of form, 2 goals scored "talent" can be handed starts. Hazard starting ahead of such players would be similar to rooney coming back from injury and getting starts ahead of Vardy/Kane. I would not just be pissed, I would probably want Hodgson's resignation at that moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif 6,006 Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 1 hour ago, chelseafan26 said: Hazard starting ahead of such players would be similar to rooney coming back from injury and getting starts ahead of Vardy/Kane. I would not just be pissed, I would probably want Hodgson's resignation at that moment. It is a bit like this. He's seemed too untouchable, or perhaps too irreplaceable. I say that's the board's fault, though not his Essien19 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,489 Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 On 4/3/2016 at 6:35 PM, Styles said: I'm a staunch Hazard supporter but yeah, he needs to have a huge comeback season. I feel he will. Fresh start Styles 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! petre.ispirescu 4,928 Posted April 11, 2016 Popular Post! Share Posted April 11, 2016 Conte was screaming for quality wingers while at Juventus and the fact that the board didn't satisfy his needs was one of the reasons he resigned. Now at Chelsea he's got two top wingers in Hazard and Willian, plus Cuadrado (one of his favourites) who's coming back from his loan and Pedro who is a decent player that can still do the job if motivation is there. There's plenty of depth in that area and I don't think Conte will be looking to make amends there. We know he's a demanding coach with a pretty big character so surely he'll be looking for instant success in England, while keeping his star player. Conte can't be fooled by Hazard's current form, he knows it's just a matter of time before Hazard starts firing on all cylinders again. Beigl, Stingray, manpe and 6 others 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! manpe 10,861 Posted April 12, 2016 Popular Post! Share Posted April 12, 2016 Keeping Hazard this summer will feel like a new signing to me. I am 99% sure his next season won't be anywhere near as bad. LondonsFinest, Hybrid Angel, Azpinator and 6 others 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinAshburner 1,270 Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 Twitter Profile @ChelseaReport says HAZARD has agreed personal terms with Real Madrid for 32 Million. From a source in Spain. Sent from my Vodafone 875 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BXL70 396 Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 ^^ Eduardo Inda reports on his blog that an agreement has been found with Real Madrid for 32 million. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanicus 5,208 Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 9 minutes ago, KevinAshburner said: Twitter Profile @ChelseaReport says HAZARD has agreed personal terms with Real Madrid for 32 Million. From a source in Spain. Sent from my Vodafone 875 using Tapatalk What a load of bullshit. And to think someone actually earns money for writing this shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonsFinest 692 Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 Granovskaia has milked out so much money from clubs that I just can't see us selling Hazard below 60. Essien19 and xPetrCechx 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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