Bir_CFC 3,455 Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 To be honest. Hazard had a decent game against Arsenal, not amazing. But the reaction by the fans and the media proved how much goals matter. It probably wasn't even a top 3 Hazard performance this season but got the most plaudits because he had one moment of magic but this time instead of a key pass or assist, it resulted in a goal. If he wants to win the ballon d'or, he must start scoring more. Not Messi Ronaldo level, but def more than last year. lionsden 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 To be honest. Hazard had a decent game against Arsenal, not amazing. But the reaction by the fans and the media proved how much goals matter. It probably wasn't even a top 3 Hazard performance this season but got the most plaudits because he had one moment of magic but this time instead of a key pass or assist, it resulted in a goal.If he wants to win the ballon d'or, he must start scoring more. Not Messi Ronaldo level, but def more than last year.I HOPE he would rather win the PL or CL than the Ballon D'Or Sidzeret, MrExcalibur100 and iseah100 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bir_CFC 3,455 Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 I HOPE he would rather win the PL or CL than the Ballon D'OrWell yeah that's a given, he must win one or both and score goals to stand a chance at the ballon d'or. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Styles 9,790 Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 The closest player stylistically to Hazard is Ribery and he had a very strong case for winning the Ballon d'Or in 2013*. Ribery doesn't score 50 like Messi or Ronaldo; in fact that season he only scored 11 goals if Wikipedia isn't lying to me.*Ribery really should have won the award as he was the best player on a team that won the treble. Ronaldo won nothing (if I recall correctly) so it was a bit of a joke decision in my honest opinion. It just goes to show it is really just a popularity contest and not worth serious consideration at the end of the day, so beating Hazard up for potentially never winning the thing is a joke. I'm convinced he keeps talking about it only because reporters keep asking him about those two players and winning the Ballon d'Or one day. Laugh1ngMan and Tomo 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DYC. 7,542 Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 He plays bad but scores and we lose 3:1. He plays great creates two goals doesnt score but we win 2:0.You need to realize we are not Hazard Fc but Chelsea fc. And Eden himself said he wants to create for others rather than just score goals. He is more Ribery than Ronaldo. And thats what people seem to not understand. This aint fifa. Not all top players score and score and score...same story happend when people expected miracles from Oscar but now realised what his true role is.The sooner people will get past the obsession that Hazard needs to score shitload of goals and win 10 golden balls to be considered world class player, the better. He doesnt need to score goals. He helps the team, he improves us as unit in attack and that can win us trophies.Everyone jumps on Ronaldo at Real but thing is that Di Maria was the one who brought them CL last year. Ronaldo scored all those goals, but he did shit all in most important game. Di Maria didnt score but he was key for trophy in their campaign. If Hazard can give that kind of impact to our team, we will win trophies. And this is the main goal.Right now its impossible to beat Messi or Ronaldo even if Hazard scores 30 goals. Its just impossible. But is Ronaldo big game match winner? No. Even Messi wasnt in recent two years. But in few years things will change as they always do, ball is round etc and new players will be winning golden balls. If Eden brings us on top of england and europe, he will be among best even if he will score just 10 goals per season. The thing is that he has potential to unlock any defence and doesnt need to score to do that. We have 11 players; not just one.Agree with your point on Hazard. But your very harsh on Ronaldo. Ronaldo was Real's most important player in winning the CL. They never would've made it to the final without him. 17 goals and 4 assists in a single CL campaign. Do you realise how exceptional that is? Don't think a Chelsea player has even managed double figures in goals in Chelsea's CL history. He was poor in the final, that's true. But he wasn't 100% fit so that was no surprise.Drogba wasn't so crucial in winning the CL because he scored that header in the final. He was crucial because he was there when the team needed him most and scored 'big' goals throughout the campaign.And Ronaldo is not a big game match winner? He scored against Bayern, Dortmund, Atletico (not just the penalty in the final), Barcelona (he holds the record for scoring in the most consecutive matches against Barca). There was a time when you could question Ronaldo's record in big games but that hasn't been the case for years.As for Hazard, he is great just the way he is. But like he said himself, he needs to score more goals and provide more assists to take his game to the next level. Eden2020, Barbara and Term-X 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papito 8 Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 ok then he will never get the ballon d'or . once he said it's not important and one month after he says the opposite , listen to his interviews Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papito 8 Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 i don't understand what he wants , winning the ballon d'or or not , scoring more goals or create for others , because he says that and after he says the opposite , he's strange this guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papito 8 Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 and if he wants to win it , he must go to la liga , in England it's too difficult Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papito 8 Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 no i think i know what he wants because i listened his last interview and actually he was disgusted because he wants to score more goals but he can't . Ronaldo is far better than himat scoring goals and it's not his fault if he can't score more , it's not this kind of player that scores 40 or 50 goals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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papito 8 Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 lol yeah i stopped you don't see lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! LukakutoStamford 779 Posted October 8, 2014 Popular Post! Share Posted October 8, 2014 Just enjoy him, he's a unique talent and there isn't a player like him. Not to mention that he's extremely charismatic. He's the type of player that can create magic at any moment anywhere on the pitch. He's been creating the most chances of any player in Europe and completing the most dribbles of any player of Europe. He was one of the Ballon D'Or 23 last year because those who vote recognize the brilliance of his play and that he can do things that no other players can do. Tomo, zolayes, Styles and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papito 8 Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 yeah that's right , he's an unbelievable player , TOP 10 in the world but we are talking about a trophy he wants and i saw in the previous matches than he had possibilities to score but he wanted to do an assist . ok no problem for me but then Eden don't say you want to win this trophy if you don't try to score more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bir_CFC 3,455 Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 Hazard is a beast. However, considering the competition, his only chance at ballon d'or is going to be if Chelsea wins a treble. Otherwise, he's never going to outscore the current top players. Similar to how someone mentioned about Ribery. Dude had to win a treble and still came 3rd.As long as Hazard, doesn't start obsessing over it, he'll still have a great career even if he doesn't win the ballon d'or. And as a Chelsea fan, sure I'd love if he wins it, but that's secondary to Chelsea's team success. MAF, iseah100, Barbara and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbara 15,149 Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 Well, you are talking about which player is the most important. Obviously a good striker is very important to any team but if you only talk about the best player (most skills and so on) Hazard is superior in my opinion.I'm not saying that Costa isnt an amazing player, I just think Hazard is better.imo Hazard is our best and most talented player.Not sure the most important though. I can't decide between Costa and Cesc who the most important is right now, and even though Eden was involved in many of our goals this season and he's single handled why we could score against Arsenal in that moment, I think maybe Cesc and Costa (individually or as a combo) would find a way around to give us the lead. There's no way Arsenal would be able to press like that the whole match, as they aren't used to it. Our second goal comes from a situation that could have still happened if the match was 0x0.The important thing, the most important thing, the really important thing though is that regardless who's better or more important, the three of them are the mainly responsible for our success so far. I don't think we need to pick. Some matches Costa was more important, others Fabregas, others Hazard.I agree with Mourinho though about Fabregas - there hasn't been one match yet where he wasn't incredible or at least very good in the attack for us. Hazard had a couple of quiet matches. Again, irrelevant imo. I prefer to look at what they keep doing good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 This Hazard getting judged by goals is so tedious and wrong on so many levels, at this rate by the time we get to 2040 we will be judging keeper's on how many goals they score. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papito 8 Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 it's because Ronaldo and Messi score 100 goals by season lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 So? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papito 8 Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 to win the ballon d'or and to be the best player in the world , in 2014 he must score a lot of goals , do i speak chinese , russian ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petre.ispirescu 4,928 Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 it's because Ronaldo and Messi score 100 goals by season lolYeah mate we understand, the recipe of success is to score goals for fun just like Messi does. We get it, now move on, Hazard will not win the Ballon d'Or because he is not a natural born goalscorer, ok, but nor will Paris ever win the Champions League because they are just a tin-pot team playing in a Mickey Mouse league full of bang average teams. Now crawl back to your forums because you are just a fucking Paris troll frustrated that his team can't even beat the likes of Evian and Reims. And btw, how about that marquee signing of yours, the 50 mil pounds defender that can't defend? Has he sold enough shirts by now?????? iseah100 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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