Pacquiao 1,834 Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 no way Van Ginkel is ahead of Podgba or Sterling. Or even Courtinho!Pogba and Coutinho are debatable, but Sterling??? i would rate Wilshere, Lemela, Eriksen, El Shaarwary and Ljajić way above Sterling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mufassir08 2,400 Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 For me there is some overrating of neymar and underrating of gotze going on here.For me hazard=gotze>neymar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 For me there is some overrating of neymar and underrating of gotze going on here.For me hazard=gotze>neymar.No, you're underrating Hazard and Neymar if you think Gotze is better than the latter and as good as the first.Neymar will prove himself next season though beyond doubt to the unbelievers. kellzfresh, yuvala and Peace. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! pHaRaOn 2,131 Posted July 15, 2013 Popular Post! Share Posted July 15, 2013 TrippingStep, DJames, francozola and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mufassir08 2,400 Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 No, you're underrating Hazard and Neymar if you think Gotze is better than the latter and as good as the first.Neymar will prove himself next season though beyond doubt to the unbelievers.Gotze has proved himself in the bundesliga becoming the best attacking midfielder in that league so yeah until neymar achieves the same kind of success in europe it is gotze>neymar for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 Gotze has proved himself in the bundesliga becoming the best attacking midfielder in that league so yeah until neymar achieves the same kind of success in europe it is gotze>neymar for me.I think Neymar did well in the confederations cup, and has a lot of goals for brazil internationally. In fact i think he scored 45 goals in 54 matches in 2012(i cant really remember but it was almost a goal per game) which is massive. Your seriously underrating him, i think he is already a better finisher than gotze, better freekick taker, better corner kick taker, already a better dribbler and the only thing gotze has over him is vision.But these days the people who win the ballon d or, are not the best players with vision. By vision alone, iniesta, mata and ozil will be contenders for top 3. But sadly its not only vision that makes you a world best, its goals and the wow factor(dribbling skills) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustafa 885 Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 For me the top 10 best young attacking players are1. Eden Hazard2. Mario Gotze3. Neymar4. Oscar 5. Isco6. Thiago Alcantara7. Kevin De Bruyne8. Lucas Moura9. Van Ginkel10. Romelu LukakuWow you think Oscar is better than Isco ?? Goldenboy Isco ?? Dont wanna get into this too much considering this is a thread dedicated to Hazard... but thats a very bold statement ! kellzfresh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weckerz 3,781 Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 Saw a topic on redcafe a few weeks ago about the 10 best young players in the world atm. About 10 pages, only 1 or 2 listed Hazard in their top 10. Sweet bitterness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jype 6,398 Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 Wow you think Oscar is better than Isco ?? Goldenboy Isco ?? Dont wanna get into this too much considering this is a thread dedicated to Hazard... but thats a very bold statement !Using the Golden Boy award in Isco's favour is kind of harsh, considering there's no way Oscar could have won it as he did not yet play in Europe at the time and the award is given to the best U21 player in the European leagues. Isco was class for Malaga in the two seasons he was there but he's got no international experience and there's no way to know for sure if he's got what it takes to succeed at the very highest level at Real Madrid. Oscar on the other hand has been a regular starter for Brazil for over a year now and he did great in his first season at a European club, not to mention the great season he had at Internacional before moving. At the moment we just have to agree on the fact they're both great players with bright futures but there really is no way to tell who's better right now and at the end of the day it's up to each of us to judge them. If someone rates Isco higher than Oscar or the other way around, it's their opinion and they're entitled to it. But yeah, that's enough of this in the Eden Hazard thread. Sorry Alex, don't swing the mighty hammer on us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stats 7,142 Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 Just struck me that Hazard and Thiago Alcanatra look very similar. Thiago just a bit darker. Never seen anyone mention it but I think they do look very similar Mustafa 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Jase 43,479 Posted July 15, 2013 Popular Post! Share Posted July 15, 2013 Hazard on Mourinho, his 1st season in England and potential new signings...http://www.irishmirror.ie/sport/soccer/soccer-news/chelsea-jose-mourinho-won-new-2055845Hazard said: "There's been a lot said about him and written about him, things we'd heard and read, but I've found him a very good person."He loves his players. He laughs and jokes with them a lot out on the training pitch, and that's good to see in a coach."From what I've seen, he's someone who comes across as very calm in what he does. We've only been working together for a week, and it's been a good week."I'm sure he can lose his cool, but he's calm in explaining what he wants us to do so that we understand fully his instructions - [so] we learn.""The manager's arrival is important certainly - but it won't be him who actually goes out there and wins the title."He'll do everything he can to put that in place, to create the environment for us, but it'll be the players who have to deliver the trophies."We have to concentrate on what he wants of us and, if we all give 100 per cent we have a real chance of winning the title."He's spoken a bit to all of us now. He has told us all what he wants from us, together, and individually too, what he expected of us, what he wants to see, simply."To me he told me to be ambitious with my game, to try things and that, if I do that, I can do something special this year."I told him I wanted to do myself justice, to do as well as I can, and that is all he wants to see from all of us. I hope it will end up being productive."Of course there'll be big rivals out there - Manchester United, City, Tottenham, Arsenal. They'll all be competing with us for that title. But with Mourinho, we know what he is. With him in charge, we win matches and claim trophies."Hazard's debut season in SW6 brought 12 goals, a flurry of assists and plenty of predictions that he could be Footballer of the Year by May, even though he missed the Europa League Final through a calf injury."I had a very good first season but now it's up to me to continue that development and keep improving," said the 22-year-old."There's more to see from me certainly. I want to score more goals this season, create more opportunities for my team-mates, make an even bigger impression.That's what I demand of myself.""It's always a pleasure to play with great players, and Chelsea sign great players," he said. "We've heard all the names - Wayne Rooney, Xabi Alonso, Daniele De Rossi. It's exciting."Rooney would be a brilliant signing. He's a great player who has the experience, and he's still only young, at 27. He's got a few years left to play."Benteke is my friend. He had an unbelievable first season and his dream is to play even higher. His decision [to put in a transfer request amid links with Tottenham] is the right one, because he has the quality to impose himself and make his mark at any club." MAF, Stingray, Tomo and 11 others 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bir_CFC 3,455 Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 Just struck me that Hazard and Thiago Alcanatra look very similar. Thiago just a bit darker. Never seen anyone mention it but I think they do look very similar That's cause everyone just looks at his ass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustafa 885 Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 That's cause everyone just looks at his ass. :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yuvala 2,167 Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 Just struck me that Hazard and Thiago Alcanatra look very similar. Thiago just a bit darker. Never seen anyone mention it but I think they do look very similar I wouldn't say "very similar' .... I can see some similarity but not so much honestly ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 More from Hazard...http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/chelsea/10181423/Manchester-Uniteds-Wayne-Rooney-would-be-perfect-signing-for-Chelsea-claims-Eden-Hazard.htmlHazard, who is one month younger than the 22-year-old Benteke, also disclosed how he previously turned down the opportunity to join Mourinho at Real Madrid because he did not want to rush his development.“He told me he’d asked Lille, but I wanted to stay there until I was 21 and develop my game,” Hazard said. “Real Madrid is a wonderful team, but I had so much still to prove in the French league at the time. I stayed because I didn’t want to leave too early. He [Mourinho] has spoken a bit to all of us now. He has told us all what he wants from us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jype 6,398 Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 Saw a topic on redcafe a few weeks ago about the 10 best young players in the world atm. About 10 pages, only 1 or 2 listed Hazard in their top 10. Sweet bitterness.Saw that too and to be fair there was quite a lot of them who rated Hazard in their top 10. Even so, most of them still agreed that Hazard is and all of the other hyped young stars are better.Also, the vast majority of them seemed to have Thiago in the top3 prospects when he still looked to be on his way to United. Interesting to see whether or not they'll turn on him as well now that he snubbed them for Bayern. A fickle bunch that lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 I think Hazard might become the one untouchable for the attacking midfield places under Jose while the Portuguese will rotate the other 5 depending on who we are playing. The Skipper and kellzfresh 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustafa 885 Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 I think Hazard might become the one untouchable for the attacking midfield places under Jose while the Portuguese will rotate the other 5 depending on who we are playing.Really ? Why would you say that ? Under Rafa, Eden was the one who was rotated more than Mata and Oscar ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ainsley Harriott 2,732 Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 Really ? Why would you say that ? Under Rafa, Eden was the one who was rotated more than Mata and Oscar !José is actually a coach Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 Really ? Why would you say that ? Under Rafa, Eden was the one who was rotated more than Mata and Oscar !Because he has the highest ceiling out of the 6, Jose will see just how good Eden can be and when he is fit he will play, i feel. I could be wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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