Styles 9,790 Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 He hasn't turned up at all.Yeah, you're right. Only 2 game winning assists in his 3 full games, he really hasn't turned up. AT ALL. manpe, Madmax and Coop 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,056 Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 Yeah, you're right. Only 2 game winning assists in his 3 full games, he really hasn't turned up. AT ALL. Turning up for 20 mins out of the three games. He should be playing at his full potential the majority of the time! Johnny Kills 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 I thought he was pretty good actually. If Belgium were more clinical he could've easily had like 3 assists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnythefirst 1,076 Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 Turning up for 20 mins out of the three games. He should be playing at his full potential the majority of the time!Ffs, Belgium got into its second QF ever and they're bitching about Hazard. He didn't do bad at all. What do you want him to do? Score every goal himself? He's not the only guy with talent in this team, he just needs to be solid, which he was up till now. Coop and MrExcalibur100 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbara 15,149 Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 I think he had a good match - same way I thought Kevin had even before ET started.It's just because Hazard didn't dribble half-team to an assist or a goal some may be dismissing his display.As I said by the end of the first half - or maybe even earlier - in the match thread, Belgium was playing much better this time, and Hazard was one of the many players that turned up.Just because he didn't do some out-of-this-world sequence of dribbles, it doesn't mean he didn't play well. He does seem a little too quiet though. Not quiet as not taking part of the match, but keeping his head down, he doesn't seem to be smiling as much, I can't explain, he seems maybe a bit overwhelmed emotionally? It doesn't look he's having fun... if that's the case I feel for him. The Skipper and Coop 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,056 Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 Ffs, Belgium got into its second QF ever and they're bitching about Hazard. He didn't do bad at all. What do you want him to do? Score every goal himself? He's not the only guy with talent in this team, he just needs to be solid, which he was up till now.I don't think that at all, but he should be the stand out player. He hasn't been in my book. I never said he has had a bad WC, but he hasn't lived up to his reputation. EMK 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnythefirst 1,076 Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 I don't think that at all, but he should be the stand out player. He hasn't been in my book. I never said he has had a bad WC, but he hasn't lived up to his reputation.He doesn't have to be THE stand out player. He has to keep winning. You know who wants to be the best player? Ronaldo. Hazard actually has teammates (as in, he sees that they're on the pitch). The Rising Sun, MrExcalibur100, thedrog108 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,056 Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 He doesn't have to be THE stand out player. He has to keep winning. You know who wants to be the best player? Ronaldo. Hazard actually has teammates.That isn't the story all the time with hin. Watch the second leg against AM? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrExcalibur100 7,124 Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 That isn't the story all the time with hin. Watch the second leg against AM?Wow, just wow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,056 Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 Wow, just wow.What's Wow? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea? 892 Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 I think if we stop looking at him as a future balon dor winner, we'd be much happier with his performances. He's great, but not on Neymar (for Brazil) level. Maybe he'll be as good as Robben some day but I think we should reduce or expectations of him. The Rising Sun and EMK 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrExcalibur100 7,124 Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 I think if we stop looking at him as a future balon dor winner, we'd be much happier with his performances. He's great, but not on Neymar (for Brazil) level.Neymar is not Hazard (for Chelsea) level and that's all that matters for us as Chelsea fans. His performances have been greatly overstated anyway, a couple of goals against a disspirited Cameroon, one of the worst teams in the tournament, but average against Chile and running into brick walls against Mexico. Unfortunately, he is pumped up to look better than he actually is thanks to the enormous marketing campaigns his camp does and his huge "political entourage" (to use a Mourinho term) that is bigger than even those of Ronaldo and Messi. Surely, the quality of players is measured mostly by what they do for their clubs, not how many goals they score in friendlies in the Brazil World Tour against teams like China and Panama. The World Cup, at least the way I see it should be a crowning jewel for players who are looking to cement their legacy (Ronaldo de Lima / Messi) or players enhancing their reputation (James Rodriguez / Ozil and Muller in 2010). Can Hazard win ballon d'or? Why not. He is already better than Zizou, Kaka and Ronaldinho were at his age when they won that award later in their careers. I'm not sure why you're discounting him from winning that award. The question is whether he can win it at Chelsea, an English club. They didn't even give it Henry when he was clearly the best player in the world in his prime. mediator and DoubleO 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea? 892 Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 Neymar is not Hazard (for Chelsea) level and that's all that matters for us as Chelsea fans. His performances have been greatly overstated anyway, a couple of goals against a disspirited Cameroon, one of the worst teams in the tournament, but average against Chile and running into brick walls against Mexico. Unfortunately, he is pumped up to look better than he actually is thanks to the enormous marketing campaigns his camp does and his huge "political entourage" (to use a Mourinho term) that is bigger than even those of Ronaldo and Messi. Surely, the quality of players is measured mostly by what they do for their clubs, not how many goals they score in friendlies in the Brazil World Tour against teams like China and Panama. The World Cup, at least the way I see it should be a crowning jewel for players who are looking to cement their legacy (Ronaldo de Lima / Messi) or players enhancing their reputation (James Rodriguez / Ozil and Muller in 2010). Can Hazard win ballon d'or? Why not. He is already better than Zizou, Kaka and Ronaldinho were at his age when they won that award later in their careers. I'm not sure why you're discounting him from winning that award. The question is whether he can win it at Chelsea, an English club. They didn't even give it Henry when he was clearly the best player in the world in his prime. We'll cross the Balon Dor road when it comes. But Neymar has faced tougher opposition this World cup than Hazard. But Hazard should be in the 'enhance reputation' class right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korea 734 Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 Its pretty simple.The tactics dont favor hazard and he is not their n1 option. Which is why kdb looks like belgium best player every game. At chelsea, the tactics favor him and allow him to be n1 option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleO 192 Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 Wow, he's a totally different player in that Belgium squad. No speed, 1on1-challenging and other things which make him so great at Chelsea. Even though he hasn't had a great World Cup individually, I have no doubts that he will be back to himself as the season in England starts! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sutro 1,026 Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 He's growing game after game, we didnt see the last of him yet in this wc.He worked hard for the team last night Coop 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 He's growing game after game, we didnt see the last of him yet in this wc.He worked hard for the team last nightnext match against zabaleta. i am sure zabaleta would not have forgotten the humiliation at etihad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vybz Kartel 1,613 Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 I think Hazard's best position is as a number 10 were he gets more involved in the play, we should move him from the wing imo and put Schurrle on the left wing with Willian or Salah on the right wing, I feel Eden will create and score more from the middle and it would be harder to double team him since he would be constantly moving zolayes, kellzfresh and Coop 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EMK 7 Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 What I realized about Hazar is that he will never reach Ronaldo or Messi level. He just lacks the killer instinct the ability to be a game changer with goals. He will always be a good player but never 1 of the greats of his era at least. Hipe he proves me wrong. Chelsea? and didi007 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZOS 580 Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 sick of all the whining... don't know what the fuss is all about, I thought he did alright last night. He doesn't need to prove anything, any football fan can see his talent.... I'll pick him over Neymar every time, especially for a team in the EPL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.