haranr 485 Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 And I say you're wrong. The defense is as much as important as the attack is. Said it before too, Hazard can have a hat-trick every game, wouldn't make a difference if we're letting in 4 goals every game either.NO. I wasn't comparing the defense and the attack. I was comparing AZPI and Hazard! Hazard is more crucial. If cole was to be played instead of Azpi we would have conceded a little bit more maybe 6 points difference if Hazard was not to play we would have been 15 points difference. You were wrong. Face it and let's end this discussion. MrExcalibur100 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oscar 441 Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 NO. I wasn't comparing the defense and the attack. I was comparing AZPI and Hazard! Hazard is more crucial. If cole was to be played instead of Azpi we would have conceded a little bit more maybe 6 points difference if Hazard was not to play we would have been 15 points difference. You were wrong. Face it and let's end this discussion.Maybe. However, you can say the same about the am position. If we allowed Willian or Schurrle to be our left winger, maybe it would only be 6 points as well.... hjperdeath and Mohammed Seif 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LukakutoStamford 779 Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 Can we chill with Hazard v. Dave POTY discussion? There are important issues at hand like how do we about changing the badge to a picture of the Simpsons version of Eden. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 POTY could be decided in the 8 days starting next Tuesday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haranr 485 Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 Maybe. However, you can say the same about the am position. If we allowed Willian or Schurrle to be our left winger, maybe it would only be 6 points as well.... No. I am sorry but Hazard is something else. Your point again is not correct since we saw this year how HARD it is to create chances when Hazard is out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haranr 485 Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 Hazard deserves the POTY award! Without him we are clueless in attack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haranr 485 Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 Hazard is NOT getting enough respect. He is our best player by FARRR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 I think people are overstating both Hazard's and Azpi's importance. Our attack won't crumble without Eden nor will our defense without Azpi. I don't think anyone can argue that Hazard isn't the player with most talent or ability in our squad and that on his day he is by far our best and most important player. Azpi on the other hand is the definition of solidity and consistency. While Hazard gives us a 9/10 15-20 times this season, Azpi has been a solid 7 week in week out. Both perspectives have their valid points. Calling either opinion "wrong" is just silly. Accept that people have different takes on things than you. kellzfresh, Mohammed Seif, Blue Armour and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haranr 485 Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 I think people are overstating both Hazard's and Azpi's importance. Our attack won't crumble without Eden nor will our defense without Azpi. I don't think anyone can argue that Hazard isn't the player with most talent or ability in our squad and that on his day he is by far our best and most important player. Azpi on the other hand is the definition of solidity and consistency. While Hazard gives us a 9/10 15-20 times this season, Azpi has been a solid 7 week in week out. Both perspectives have their valid points. Calling either opinion "wrong" is just silly. Accept that people have different takes on things than you. Hazard can't pass himself you know. I blame the playmaker for the inconsistency of Eden Hazard. He doesn't get the ball enough. He has been brilliant all season, even in his bad games he is our best attacker by far.What Mata did was brilliant, you go back to the start of the season and last season, you will see that Mata was ALWAYS looking for Hazard and ALWAYS passing him when he was free, which is not happening this season. Hazard actually is the only player who created a decent amount of chances this season, if there was another world-class AM next to him there wouldn't be one person in here who would claim he doesn't deserve POTY. Coop and comilin 26 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 Hazard can't pass himself you know. I blame the playmaker for the inconsistency of Eden Hazard. He doesn't get the ball enough. He has been brilliant all season, even in his bad games he is our best attacker by far.What Mata did was brilliant, you go back to the start of the season and last season, you will see that Mata was ALWAYS looking for Hazard and ALWAYS passing him when he was free, which is not happening this season. Hazard actually is the only player who created a decent amount of chances this season, if there was another world-class AM next to him there wouldn't be one person in here who would claim he doesn't deserve POTY.Not really the point. And Hazard's form has fluctuated with exact same suppliers next to him, in fact all of our attackers have had both good and bad spells, there is no denying that. Maybe if there was another world-class AM next to him there wouldn't be one person in here who would claim he doesn't deserve POTY, but that is just a hypothetical situation. We don't have another Hazard so there are people who think Azpi deserves POTY more. Mohammed Seif 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oscar 441 Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 No. I am sorry but Hazard is something else. Your point again is not correct since we saw this year how HARD it is to create chances when Hazard is out. We just beat PSG without Hazard and Swansea....Hazard can't pass himself you know. I blame the playmaker for the inconsistency of Eden Hazard. He doesn't get the ball enough. He has been brilliant all season, even in his bad games he is our best attacker by far.What Mata did was brilliant, you go back to the start of the season and last season, you will see that Mata was ALWAYS looking for Hazard and ALWAYS passing him when he was free, which is not happening this season. Hazard actually is the only player who created a decent amount of chances this season, if there was another world-class AM next to him there wouldn't be one person in here who would claim he doesn't deserve POTY.Hazard had the same inconsistencies last season with Mata.. He has been brilliant in 2014, not all season. Oscar was the best player in 2013. Maybe you have short memory, however, I could of swore a lot of people calling Hazard to be bench in the early parts of the season. Seriously, POTY awards are dumb in football. It's always awarded to the player for the best last months of the season, rather than the full season i.e. Bale with the EPL poty and Cristiano with the Baloon d'or. Mohammed Seif 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo11bluecl 207 Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 Is he even better than Bale atm? I don't think so. Hazard might be better technically but Bale is WAY FASTER and WAY better finisher. Also he is also only 1 year younger, not exactly a lot younger so they are comparable. You will never see Hazard does that sprint, he would have slowed down and tried to dribble past the defender waiting for team mates to arrive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mohammed Seif 1,451 Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 Is he even better than Bale atm? I don't think so. Hazard might be better technically but Bale is WAY FASTER and WAY better finisher. Also he is also only 1 year younger, not exactly a lot younger so they are comparable. You will never see Hazard does that sprint, he would have slowed down and tried to dribble past the defender waiting for team mates to arrive. Which team do you support? kellzfresh, ChelseaFSee, The Skipper and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,585 Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 Which team do you support?Not Chelsea that's for sure. Mohammed Seif, kellzfresh, Roquila and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petre.ispirescu 4,928 Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 Is he even better than Bale atm? I don't think so. Hazard might be better technically but Bale is WAY FASTER and WAY better finisher. Also he is also only 1 year younger, not exactly a lot younger so they are comparable. You will never see Hazard does that sprint, he would have slowed down and tried to dribble past the defender waiting for team mates to arrive. Why is he better? Because he passed like a Gallardo by an inexperienced and a second-hand CB in Bartra? Every world-class defender in this world would have sent Bale in the stands there. At least this is what Terry, Ivanovic, Cahill or Azpi would have done. Especially at that moment of the game. You just can't defend the way that guy did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! 1chelsea 864 Posted April 16, 2014 Popular Post! Share Posted April 16, 2014 Is he even better than Bale atm? I don't think so. Hazard might be better technically but Bale is WAY FASTER and WAY better finisher. Also he is also only 1 year younger, not exactly a lot younger so they are comparable. You will never see Hazard does that sprint, he would have slowed down and tried to dribble past the defender waiting for team mates to arrive. you like comparing our player and run them down with what they don't do better. Have u ever heard of the word "support" if u support a student that fail a course all the time by giving him a back up training I believe u know what the result will be. U don't have strong support on your team players u call you own? Get the fuck out you don't deserve the team. Even If u see their weakness u think on how he or she can improve not kill their spirit to improve chillerz, TacticalBlues, Mohammed Seif and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Styles 9,790 Posted April 16, 2014 Popular Post! Share Posted April 16, 2014 Is he even better than Bale atm? I don't think so. Hazard might be better technically but Bale is WAY FASTER and WAY better finisher. Also he is also only 1 year younger, not exactly a lot younger so they are comparable. You will never see Hazard does that sprint, he would have slowed down and tried to dribble past the defender waiting for team mates to arrive. This is such an incredibly reactionary post it's laughable. Bale just scored a goal against the worst Barcelona team in years - who have an absolute clown in goal - so of course Bale is better than Hazard. pWneR, Ainsley Harriott, MAF and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vybz Kartel 1,613 Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 We really need him against Sunderland, he should start if his fit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrExcalibur100 7,124 Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 This is such an incredibly reactionary post it's laughable. Bale just scored a goal against the worst Barcelona team in years - who have an absolute clown in goal - so of course Bale is better than Hazard.Just ignore Berke, Styles, haranr and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esam 60 Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 I gotta admit that it was a well taken goal by Bale though .. not easy scoring that type of goals .. I was just trying to for 2 hours and failed .. lol it's not ALL about pace .. Messi doesn't have Bale's pace! .. and if it comes to pace we have Salah! we have Schurrle! .. they can offer pace to the team .. it's a team sport and the players shouldn't be copies of each other! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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