haranr 485 Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 If we let him leave Chelsea than f*** us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 if we let him go (i cant even imagine that we would be comprehending letting him go). but still "IF" we let him go, with him would go our title hopes.also i cant understand what his problem with mou would be?? would it be that eden feels mou is playing him too much, that he is playing him in literally every game. i mean such nonsensical rumors!!! iceboy and kellzfresh 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
der Kaiser 77 Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 He will be MoM against Arsenal. I just know it. BleedsBlue, Barbara and Stingray 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Namika 922 Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 http://instagram.com/p/iKIYSKEm1L/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 Been seeing this piece by Neil Ashton circulating around the twittersphere and most people seem to be in agreement that there's only one way Hazard should respond to these rumours....... We ain't even talking about the game, we in here talking about.....practice!! In all seriousness though, with AVB gone, I imagine Neil will now resume back to delighting us all with his petulant, sensationalist stories about the 'football-ruining madhouse' that is chelsea football club. That's funny. How many rings does Iverson have? Jordan practiced as hard as he played and that's why he's the greatest of all time. Ronaldo works on his game and works twice as hard as almost any other player in the gym - that's why he's one of the greatest players ever.Hazard could be one of the greatest ever. But he needs to knuckle down and show the type of form he showed against Sunderland more than once a season (last season it was against West Ham). I know it's easy to slate Ashton but the guy does have some credibility.One more thing about that clip - wasn't Iverson scoring champion, all-star and league MVP when he said that stuff? Eden Hazard has achieved slightly more than the square root of fuck all right now. He NEEDS to practice. Sidzeret, Barbara, Kieran. and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mediator 2,026 Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 Daily Mail stroke again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
der Kaiser 77 Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 No question for him in press conference so story about hin was totally BSYeah, sure Jose wants to get rid of our best player. How can someone even believe in that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidzeret 2,257 Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 That's funny. How many rings does Iverson have? Jordan practiced as hard as he played and that's why he's the greatest of all time. Ronaldo works on his game and works twice as hard as almost any other player in the gym - that's why he's one of the greatest players ever.Hazard could be one of the greatest ever. But he needs to knuckle down and show the type of form he showed against Sunderland more than once a season (last season it was against West Ham). I know it's easy to slate Ashton but the guy does have some credibility.One more thing about that clip - wasn't Iverson scoring champion, all-star and league MVP when he said that stuff? Eden Hazard has achieved slightly more than the square root of fuck all right now. He NEEDS to practice. Ronaldo is the trained product, but Messi is raw God given talent.If Hazard has the latter, we wouldn't have been playing in the Europa League last season. He needs to PRACTICE to reach the level of Messi or Ronaldo.No question of his skills. And he couldn't have asked for a better coach. The only place to be and Barbara 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Driver 503 Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 Yeah, sure Jose wants to get rid of our best player. How can someone even believe in that? Todays news ,tommorows fish and chip paper. The boy is class ,I wonder why Ashton is not so interested in whether Mikel stays on for extra training? he was stupid to miss training when he went to France ,but class players deserve a bit of slack and Hazard is quality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! remains of the day 564 Posted December 21, 2013 Popular Post! Share Posted December 21, 2013 Jordan practiced as hard as he played and that's why he's the greatest of all time. Ronaldo works on his game and works twice as hard as almost any other player in the gym - that's why he's one of the greatest players ever.Hazard could be one of the greatest ever. But he needs to knuckle down and show the type of form he showed against Sunderland more than once a season (last season it was against West Ham). I know it's easy to slate Ashton but the guy does have some credibility.One more thing about that clip - wasn't Iverson scoring champion, all-star and league MVP when he said that stuff? Eden Hazard has achieved slightly more than the square root of fuck all right now. He NEEDS to practice.Probably not a good idea for Hazard to pull an 'Iverson rant' on this one! Exactly the kind of egomaniac thing Zlatan would do though...But I agree. Much has been said about whether Iverson could have achieved much more as a player if he had embraced a better work ethic in 'practice' such as that of Kobe or of course, Jordan. But I don't see any 'slacker' signs like that from Hazard. He's been mediocre for large parts of the season, but also in the time he's been here at this club, our playing style has been such a disjointed mess. I think it's kinda unrealistic to expect him (at age 21/22) to consistently perform as he did against Sunderland when the team hasn't exactly been playing in a way in which his potential can be optimized. Anyway, If this story were coming from Dominic FiField at the Guardian i'd be worried but I don't consider Neil Ashton as a credible journalist at all. He gets some things right (i.e predicting the line-up for champions league final) but massively exaggerates others, and this cock & bull story is one of them. The majority of his pieces about Chelsea has centred around a narrative of dysfunction and now he's trying to engineer this image of Hazard as lazy and uncommitted with no substantial evidence to support that. So Hazard doesn't linger around after training..... big deal. Is he continuously showing up late to training or slacking off in training? There's been no indication of that from Mourinho. Jose has had no problem benching big stars for underachieving (whether in training or on the pitch) and he certainly wouldn't have a problem in doing the same with Hazard if he weren't working hard enough. The only place to be, Barbara, Phil Driver and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korea 734 Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 Probably not a good idea for Hazard to pull an 'Iverson rant' on this one! Exactly the kind of egomaniac thing Zlatan would do though...But I agree. Much has been said about whether Iverson could have achieved much more as a player if he had embraced a better work ethic in 'practice' such as that of Kobe or of course, Jordan. But I don't see any 'slacker' signs like that from Hazard. He's been mediocre for large parts of the season, but also in the time he's been here at this club, our playing style has been such a disjointed mess. I think it's kinda unrealistic to expect him (at age 21/22) to consistently perform as he did against Sunderland when the team hasn't exactly been playing in a way in which his potential can be optimized. Anyway, If this story were coming from Dominic FiField at the Guardian i'd be worried but I don't consider Neil Ashton as a credible journalist at all. He gets some things right (i.e predicting the line-up for champions league final) but massively exaggerates others, and this cock & bull story is one of them. The majority of his pieces about Chelsea has centred around a narrative of dysfunction and now he's trying to engineer this image of Hazard as lazy and uncommitted with no substantial evidence to support that. So Hazard doesn't linger around after training..... big deal. Is he continuously showing up late to training or slacking off in training? There's been no indication of that from Mourinho. Jose has had no problem benching big stars for underachieving (whether in training or on the pitch) and he certainly wouldn't have a problem in doing the same with Hazard if he weren't working hard enough.You guys dont follow the NBA...Iverson had a strong work ethic.... Worked his ass in High school, college and the NBA. Probably could of gone pro in american football as well..He just was a misunderstood person that made terrible decisions off the court and had a "ME" attitude similar to Cristiano.....However, no one ever question AI work ethic or heart/desire... Bir_CFC 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Styles 9,790 Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 Ronaldo is the trained product, but Messi is raw God given talent.If Hazard has the latter, we wouldn't have been playing in the Europa League last season. He needs to PRACTICE to reach the level of Messi or Ronaldo.No question of his skills. And he couldn't have asked for a better coach. Maybe in terms of man-management, but man-management can only take you so far. Hazard could have asked for a better coach when it comes to setting up a team to make better use of his ability. Mufassir08 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Warrior 109 Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 Hazard needs more consistency, he is going nowhere. Mourinho will take him to the World Class bracket of the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belgiannutt 3,201 Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 (edited) Just remembered that the physio from our national team was on a tv show last year and was talking about Hazard's recovery for the international games,(injury at the end of last season.)He said that even though Hazard's a bit of a joker, people would be suprised about how hard Hazard can work and how motivated he was to get fit again.I think this Ashton guy is just making assumptions based off of Hazard's laid-back character. If Hazard was actually showing a lack of commitment do you really think Mourinho would let it slide and keep playing him every game ?Not saying Hazard doesn't need to be pushed, he does but that doesn't mean he lacks commitment.Also if Hazard actually lacked commitment why is it then that he's improved his defensive game immensely. There would be no way he could have done that if he wasn't committed to improve himself. Edited December 21, 2013 by Belgiannutt Stingray and Phil Driver 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAF 162 Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 The problem with Hazards performances is psychological. players who are very creative and talented need to be in a specific state of mind where top performance and creative ideas come effortlessly and work is fun. It has something to do with the exact right amount of stress and beeing whats called "in the zone". It's up to Mourinho to get him in this state of mind. Or the should get a talented psychologist. Stingray 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stingray 9,441 Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 The problem with Hazards performances is psychological. players who are very creative and talented need to be in a specific state of mind where top performance and creative ideas come effortlessly and work is fun. It has something to do with the exact right amount of stress and beeing whats called "in the zone". It's up to Mourinho to get him in this state of mind. Or the should get a talented psychologist.True!! It is called flow and the psychologist that studied is Csikszentmihalyi . However, to have 'flow, you need autonomy in your game and have a shitload of fun in the group. Think Suarez now, he is in what is called 'flow'. Sidzeret and MAF 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Styles 9,790 Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 The problem with Hazards performances is psychological. players who are very creative and talented need to be in a specific state of mind where top performance and creative ideas come effortlessly and work is fun. It has something to do with the exact right amount of stress and beeing whats called "in the zone". It's up to Mourinho to get him in this state of mind. Or the should get a talented psychologist.Nah, I think Mourinho should just try and develop a better team which can help it's creative players to be more decisive. The Skipper, Bir_CFC and Barbara 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 Nah, I think Mourinho should just try and develop a better team which can help it's creative players to be more decisive.This, this and this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAF 162 Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 True!! It is called flow and the psychologist that studied is Csikszentmihalyi . However, to have 'flow, you need autonomy in your game and have a shitload of fun in the group. Think Suarez now, he is in what is called 'flow'.Do you remember back in the 90's when Eendracht Aalst managed to qualify for uefa cup i think it was?well, i knew their psychologist personally. He was the one who got De Bilde to perform the way he did back then. Anyway, i used to box at that time so he proposed to try some stuff with me. Basically he had a technique to program peoples subconsious for consistent top performances. The results were incrdible to me. I could go on for hours without effort, without ever having to think about my next move. ironically the way to get the best performace is not to play for result but just for the joy of making your every move the best it can be.Anyway he asked for a raise at Eendracht and they refused, so he quit and a year later they were shit again. yuvala and Stingray 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stingray 9,441 Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 True!! It is called flow and the psychologist that studied is Csikszentmihalyi . However, to have 'flow, you need autonomy in your game and have a shitload of fun in the group. Think Suarez now, he is in what is called 'flow'. Do you remember back in the 90's when Eendracht Aalst managed to qualify for uefa cup i think it was? well, i knew their psychologist personally. He was the one who got De Bilde to perform the way he did back then. Anyway, i used to box at that time so he proposed to try some stuff with me. Basically he had a technique to program peoples subconsious for consistent top performances. The results were incrdible to me. I could go on for hours without effort, without ever having to think about my next move. ironically the way to get the best performace is not to play for result but just for the joy of making your every move the best it can be. Anyway he asked for a raise at Eendracht and they refused, so he quit and a year later they were shit again. That is true! You need guys to have a fixed mindset on enjoyment and a learning orientation (eg: not make X passes to the striker, but find x new ways to serve the striker. Then train on that! The results in research are awesome! ). Dortmund, Ajax, Genk, .... do it in the youth system, winning is secondary. MAF 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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