BlueLion. 21,491 Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 Getting his excuses in early, then. In all seriousness, of course he's never going to match Messi on a goalscoring level. Nobody ever will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 19,253 Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 He'll never know if he doesn't try. I've said this about 5 times in the past on here that he should model his game after Robben. Just run at defenders as much as you can and get off loads of shots. Just strain the opponent as much as possible and test the keeper as often as he can.He needs to be far less unselfish if he wants to be on that next level. It's almost as if he doesn't know himself that he's nearly unstoppable when he's running with the ball. kellzfresh and Unionjack 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionjack 7,532 Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 the main body of the interview is about him never seeing himself score as many as Ronaldo and Messi and that`s fair enough..those two are the players their teams are built around and the supporting cast is there to provide them with as many chances to score. and lets face it in Spain there`s only 3 or 4 teams who even challenge them to a game.the rest of the league is like public training sessions against their reserve team or worse.I do think we should have one player who roams freely. Eden and Oscar would be my candidates. but it would take a lot of changing the team to put him in a position to score the high number of goals they score. he`s more of an assistant to Costa. I would like to see him float around and attack different areas because I think it would drag the enemy defenders around and create openings for others but I only see him scoring a maximum of 30 goals in a season.as for the sometimes I score one goal and I think that`s enough...I think the Belgian players in general suffer in interviews because they are too open at times and don`t explain themselves fully because they may not understand how things they say can be taken. i take it as him saying he needs to learn to be more ruthless if he wants to score like Messi and Ronaldo do and what he doesn`t say is but I see that as enough for my own personal glory..he lays balls off for others instead of going for his own limelight. what would Ronaldo or Messi say if they were so open? I have mirrors on my ceiling so I can watch myself wank over my greatness after scoring a hat trick all by myself against Celta Vigo..who knows..And I might agree with some of it if Hazard was some young publicity naive kid but he isn't. He loves the spotlight and being the center of attention, he thrives on it.I'd love for him to be dead selfish with a pair of blinkers on and nothing else in his head than scoring a goal. Cause right now hes dead on the field. Hes lathargic and apethetic and as our most creative player hes offering nowt.He'll never know if he doesn't try. I've said this about 5 times in the past on here that he should model his game after Robben. Just run at defenders as much as you can and get off loads of shots. Just strain the opponent as much as possible and test the keeper as often as he can.He needs to be far less unselfish if he wants to be on that next level. It's almost as if he doesn't know himself that he's nearly unstoppable when he's running with the ball.Agree mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilvorak 3,734 Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 I'd sell Hazard if he played like Robben. Cut inside and look for a shot everytime you get the ball? Eugh.Hazard has scored 14 League goals in back to back seasons which is more than decent. Drogba only did that twice for us. manpe 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfcs most wanted 657 Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 I would take care of his wife I found a photo of hazard with his wife and i have to say you would have to be pretty lucky Though Hazard is looking pretty odd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iseah100 5,612 Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 http://m.goal.com/s/en/news/9/england/2015/09/02/14988412/hazard-ill-never-be-a-true-scorer-like-messi-or-ronaldo?utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2FNot ambitious enough for me tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy. 2,742 Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 I'd sell Hazard if he played like Robben. Cut inside and look for a shot everytime you get the ball? Eugh.Hazard has scored 14 League goals in back to back seasons which is more than decent. Drogba only did that twice for us.thing with robben tho he always took players on, For me hazard turns back way to much for a player that has so much skill and flair kellzfresh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacquiao 1,834 Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 http://m.goal.com/s/en/news/9/england/2015/09/02/14988412/hazard-ill-never-be-a-true-scorer-like-messi-or-ronaldo?utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2FNot ambitious enough for me tbh.I disagree, its simply not his game, just like its not Di Maria's, Ozil's, Isco's, James', Iniesta's, Ribery's or Lucas Moura's to name a few to score 40+ goals a season.I dont know why people think Hazard should aim to score 40+ a season when it isnt his game, its like saying Mata should aim to complete as many dribbles as Hazard and Messi every season, even though that isnt Mata's game.Hazard should just focus on being a great dribbler/creator, he has ability to win us games on his own without even scoring, he can put in MOTM performances without scoring, how many attacking players can do that?even the best 3 strikers in the world who's job it is to score goals have never managed to score more then 36 goals in a single season while playing in Spain and EnglandCosta - 36 goals in 13/14Aguero - 32 goals in 14/15Suarez - 31 in 13/14And people think the creative player Hazard should aim for 40+ a season when the best strikers cant even reach that number.I dont think people realise after Messi and Ronaldo hang up their boots its highly likely we wont see another player who can consistently score 40+ goals year after year at the highest level for a long long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 All hazard needs to do for me is to develop finesse shots, curl his shots more at the angle instead of kicking the ball straight at the keeper or defenders. And he should dribble with the aim of getting into the box where they can't tackle him carelessly, it would cause far more panic to defenses if he just stopped slowing down and allowing defenders to recover. His talent is so amazing that he dribbles people when he desires, he just has to get more dangerous(by driving into the box not dribbling sideways) and be more consistent with it. Zazard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stingray 9,441 Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 Its funny., cause he will get his game up soon. He always does/did - in Lille and Chels. He only had one season in which he started on fire - his debut season. This is also the season he went down later on. I predict him growing the next few weeks and in a month he will be up there. Ps: too little talk about what the Eva thing did to the team. Since that happened, all motivation went to shambles. dUMB 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue_Fox_ 2,086 Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 Not hard to imagine why the motivation went down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlueGuy 1,552 Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 So he basically admitted he will settle for 'decent to great' status of a fooballer and not aiming to achieve the next level, that is fine but chance of him ever being nominated for Ballon'Dor is pretty much over before it even begun with that type of commitment. Still 15-20 goals every season is still a pretty good return. iseah100 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnythefirst 1,076 Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 So he basically admitted he will settle for 'decent to great' status of a fooballer and not aiming to achieve the next level, that is fine but chance of him ever being nominated for Ballon'Dor is pretty much over before it even begun with that type of commitment. Still 15-20 goals every season is still a pretty good return.Zidane never scored 20 goals a season. Ronaldinho did once. Correct me if I'm wrong.Don't compare him to monster goal scorers like Messi and Cristiano. Compare him to the magicians who make people pay for a ticket.(Yes, both of them are that as well ) scargo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlueGuy 1,552 Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 Zidane never scored 20 goals a season. Ronaldinho did once. Correct me if I'm wrong.Don't compare him to monster goal scorers like Messi and Cristiano. Compare him to the magicians who make people pay for a ticket.(Yes, both of them are that as well )They rise on the biggest of occasions though, Zidane scored in WC final, CL final and others while Ronaldinho dribbled past the whole Madrid team once to score a goal in the El Classico. Hazard needs to do that when we play the like of PSG, Barca, Bayern, Real in the CL or at least when we play against MU, City...etc not when we play against Stoke and Norwich to be recognised for these 'magical' moments. He did it against Barca in the friendly, now just need to do it in a real competition hehe.Too many big games he failed to raise his game and as a result we suffered like the 3-0 defeat to City a few weeks ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DYC. 7,542 Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 They rise on the biggest of occasions though, Zidane scored in WC final, CL final and others while Ronaldinho dribbled past the whole Madrid team once to score a goal in the El Classico. Hazard needs to do that when we play the like of PSG, Barca, Bayern, Real in the CL or at least when we play against MU, City...etc not when we play against Stoke and Norwich to be recognised for these 'magical' moments. He did it against Barca in the friendly, now just need to do it in a real competition hehe.Too many big games he failed to raise his game and as a result we suffered like the 3-0 defeat to City a few weeks ago. Zidane and Ronaldinho didn't play for a side concerning themselves with defending first, ensuring plenty of men behind the ball and conceding possession at will. To the extreme point of recording possession under 30%, 0 shots on target (2 shots in total) and actually being outperformed against an opposition team with a man less. The circumstances aren't the same. Play Hazard in a top team (that plays) like Barca or Real (a legendary side like 98-00 France or playing alongside Ronaldo and Rivaldo) and see how he fares. Mourinho could care less about individual performances.Not that I want to compare Hazard to Ronaldinho and Zidane. He has a very, very long way to go to achieve that kind of status. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 cliche but play to your strengths not your weaknesses .. Hazard's talent is as an attacker ,, leave the defending to brana ,,, OH Fuck leave the defending to defenders Unionjack 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 Zidane and Ronaldinho didn't play for a side concerning themselves with defending first, ensuring plenty of men behind the ball and conceding possession at will. To the extreme point of recording possession under 30%, 0 shots on target (2 shots in total) and actually being outperformed against an opposition team with a man less. The circumstances aren't the same. Play Hazard in a top team (that plays) like Barca or Real (a legendary side like 98-00 France or playing alongside Ronaldo and Rivaldo) and see how he fares. Mourinho could care less about individual performances.Not that I want to compare Hazard to Ronaldinho and Zidane. He has a very, very long way to go to achieve that kind of status.That minus 30% stat vs United is so misleading, it was like that because United spent most of the game passing between defence and defensive midfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnythefirst 1,076 Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 They rise on the biggest of occasions though, Zidane scored in WC final, CL final and others while Ronaldinho dribbled past the whole Madrid team once to score a goal in the El Classico. Hazard needs to do that when we play the like of PSG, Barca, Bayern, Real in the CL or at least when we play against MU, City...etc not when we play against Stoke and Norwich to be recognised for these 'magical' moments. He did it against Barca in the friendly, now just need to do it in a real competition hehe.Too many big games he failed to raise his game and as a result we suffered like the 3-0 defeat to City a few weeks ago. Zidane was about Hazard's age when he won the world cup. Have some patience. ;-)Ronaldinho was also playing for Barca, a team that plays a tad more fluent and attacking football.Zidane on the other hand, played most of his international career after 2000 in a French team that really didn't play well. He practically got them in the 2006 finals by himself. He's a true badass.He's not on their level, but are you really going to blame Eden for the City defeat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DYC. 7,542 Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 That minus 30% stat vs United is so misleading, it was like that because United spent most of the game passing between defence and defensive midfield.Chelsea didn't show any desire to win possession by pressing them and showing real urgency to win the ball, which means they didn't want the ball (coach's instructions). I don't see how that is misleading. How do you expect attacking players to excel, or even perform at a good level, in such conditions? I'm not 100% sure on this but I think we saw similar ball possession, around 30-35%, against Atletico and PSG. And it's not just possession, it's the failure to create a good amount of goal-scoring opportunities, rather relying on set-pieces.My point was that Chelsea's approach does not set a platform for attacking players to shine. The plan is not to assert themselves over the opposition or dominate, unlike Zidane's Real or Ronaldinho's Barca. Not to mention the difference in quality of their team mates. That leads to Hazard being labled as someone who can't perform on the big stage. Amblève. and zolayes 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionjack 7,532 Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 I found a photo of hazard with his wife and i have to say you would have to be pretty lucky Though Hazard is looking pretty oddShe must be a good shag cause shes not an oil painting is she! Chuchie face!We all know the lad will wake up from the deep sleep hes in at the moment thats obvious but we need him to be there when we need him not when hes on his man menstral cycle All the lads just seem to be acting like zombies and we need someone to set the bar a bit higher and shake the rest up. And with Eden our most creative lad along with Cescy with them missing we are buggered.I have a bad feeling. I see us losing him. IF we fail to make Europe next season I see Eden looking towards Spain. Hes a young very sharp lad with no matter what hes saying now, a truck load of ambition plus an ego to matchMix that with the club will be wanting to buy our way out of trouble and getting as much for him as they can. (Which would be silly with us losing our best player) But in that scenario Im afraid I can see it happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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