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[xPetrCechx 13,563]

The Chelsea squad already has a Brazilian flavour, in the form of Ramires, David Luiz and Lucas Piazon, and Abramovich could add to it further with his pursuit of Hulk, the Porto striker. A £38m fee has been agreed in principle between the clubs but there are complications related to Hulk's third party ownership, and over who will pay the monies owing to his investors.

http://www.guardian....brazil-transfer

Hulk focused on Brazil

Striker denies fresh rumours of talks with Chelsea

http://www1.skysport...r.it&utm_medium

"I haven't talked to anyone. As everyone knows, I don't follow negotiations closely as that will make me lose my focus. I let my agent deal with that stuff."

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/1123936?cc=4716

[Kezza 1,965]

Complications with the third party ownership? Split the bill down the middle and be gone with them.

Edit: fuck that, 45 mil is far too much!

[Kisho 33]

_{Ya read a story like this earlier this week. So the problem is according english FA rules porto have to buy these thirdy party rights of hulk so they can have full ownership of him in order to sell him to us. If i remember correctley its comes to under 7 mil. Porto want 38 mil out of the deal and want us to pay for the aquisition of the third party ownership of hulk which gives us the grand total of 45m}

[BlueLyon 9,359]

I know its very optimistic but why do I have the feeling that the only reason Hulk and Oscar are not official signings yet is because there will be olympic games here in London and they will sign deal right after them. The games are most important for Oscar and even more for Hulk, with good performance, he would get standard place and more chances to play in WC 2014, Oscar too. Sure they dont want to get distracted by press if it would be already official deal. Its enough for them just to know they will play here, it doesnt matter if it is offical or not.

All these rumours just couldnt be wrong, Hulk said he wants to play for us (remember that Twitter flirt with Chelsea), it was almost done deal and then nothing. Just some speculation that fee was not accepted...And since Hulk is number one priority, it would be perfect to announce him and Oscar together after olympics. After all, they wouldnt play in preseason anyway, since olympic games are in same time.

[Strike 7,265]

I know its very optimistic but why do I have the feeling that the only reason Hulk and Oscar are not official signings yet is because there will be olympic games here in London and they will sign deal right after them. The games are most important for Oscar and even more for Hulk, with good performance, he would get standard place and more chances to play in WC 2014, Oscar too. Sure they dont want to get distracted by press if it would be already official deal. Its enough for them just to know they will play here, it doesnt matter if it is offical or not.

All these rumours just couldnt be wrong, Hulk said he wants to play for us (remember that Twitter flirt with Chelsea), it was almost done deal and then nothing. Just some speculation that fee was not accepted...And since Hulk is number one priority, it would be perfect to announce him and Oscar together after olympics. After all, they wouldnt play in preseason anyway, since olympic games are in same time.

Very Optimistic imo. We had confirmed bids for Moses and Andre Schurrle last week which shows that the board are getting back up plans ready. I don't think the Hulk deal is done yet. Maybe the third party regulations are hindering the deal

[blue_swaggin_96 96]

Very Optimistic imo. We had confirmed bids for Moses and Andre Schurrle last week which shows that the board are getting back up plans ready. I don't think the Hulk deal is done yet. Maybe the third party regulations are hindering the deal

so if i understand, in coporate world, you make bids like this ready knowing they will get rejected just to tempt your first customer to come to you without any hassle

schurrle - bid = DECOY ?

not sure about Moses... but very smart tactics

[Strike 7,265]

so if i understand, in coporate world, you make bids like this ready knowing they will get rejected just to tempt your first customer to come to you without any hassle

schurrle - bid = DECOY ?

not sure about Moses... but very smart tactics

common sense and a sense of realism dictates we have hit a snag with the 3rd party regulations

[Heisenberg 1,824]

Hulk is too much expensive , with 40M you could have a quality RB and a good winger , you could spend this money on Moutinho , or Cabaye who is quite good , or on Oscar ! We need more a midfielder than a right winger.

[Melanicus 5,208]

We will get him in August mark my words. Porto is trying to be tough, but we are the ones who are dictating the rules. They won't to milk our money as much as possilbe. We will act like we are not interested anymore and later Porto will see that no other club is interested. They will ask us if we are still interested and will lower the price and Hulk will be ours.

[Tricky 301]

Someone remind me how much zidanne cost.

38+7 for the third party = fuck off no thanks.

Ridiculous sums of money, and this isn't even taking into account agent fees, bonuses and a £100k plus weekly wage.

Time to look at cheaper alternatives, maybe Neymar! ?

[ZanSnake 1,211]

Someone remind me how much zidanne cost.

38+7 for the third party = fuck off no thanks.

Ridiculous sums of money, and this isn't even taking into account agent fees, bonuses and a £100k plus weekly wage.

Time to look at cheaper alternatives, maybe Neymar!

Thought you said cheaper?

Would be the same problem with the third rights, plus more money! Think it was last reported 60 million euros!

[Tricky 301]

Thought you said cheaper?

Would be the same problem with the third rights, plus more money! Think it was last reported 60 million euros!

Sorry was just being sarcastic... But this deal with agent and signing fees could get closer to £50 million. not even mentioned his wages over 5 years, which may add £30 million.

Reality is this guy should be £20-25 million. And he really should be commanding a wage which would amount to twice what Mata is on.

[Kisho 33]

Hopefully we get him in the end at a reduced price. At 45 it is ridiculous so what other good RW options out there?

[themightyblue 443]

If Moutinho leaves, then Hulk will probably stay

[BlueLyon 9,359]

As I know, when we bought Ramires from Benfica, 3rd-party owner had some shares of Ramires too and we managed to complete the deal. Usualy it is previous owner (Porto) who pays the money to these companies. But they want all 38mio, I guess that is why they wanted 45. Because 7mio of those 45 would go for the 3rd company.

What will a team like Porto do with all that money anyway...

[BlueLyon 9,359]

If Moutinho leaves, then Hulk will probably stay

Then better we do the deal before Spurs get Moutinho. Because I guess then if Hulk leaves, Moutinho will stay

Reality is this guy should be £20-25 million. And he really should be commanding a wage which would amount to twice what Mata is on.

Sadly he is only RW that is available of such class and also only one that will bring us different options; pace, explosive play, dribbling, crossing, individual actions, free-kick mastering, long shooting, strong physical presence,...I would pay for him up to 40mio, ahead of 10mio Moses, 16mio Schurrle or whoever else. Only Hulk can create imediate impact and different dimensional football. If Porto wants that money, so what, its not yours. Much better then getting Schurrle who will play only bit-part. I cant even imagine him play bigger role here. How? What atributes he has that we would be better then? Reus is 3 classes higher that Schurle and cost 25mio euro, I would never pay more than 10 for Schurrle and I like german players overall, but Hulk or Schurle is something that you cant compare.

[OneMoSalah 8,793]

As I know, when we bought Ramires from Benfica, 3rd-party owner had some shares of Ramires too and we managed to complete the deal. Usualy it is previous owner (Porto) who pays the money to these companies. But they want all 38mio, I guess that is why they wanted 45. Because 7mio of those 45 would go for the 3rd company.

What will a team like Porto do with all that money anyway...

Use it to sign more young players and rip us a new arsehole when we want to sign one of the young players in the next 5 years.

[BlueLyon 9,359]

Use it to sign more young players and rip us a new arsehole when we want to sign one of the young players in the next 5 years.

I am quite sure about that, they already have James Rodriguez, Moutinho and Danilo along Hulk. Im sure we will be interested in all them.

Btw, if Hulk will turn too expensive, what about James Rodriguez? He is not the fastest or strongest player but has brilliant wing play. Much better than halfstrikerhalfwinger Schurle or Moses.

Still, no one is better than Hulk, I have feeling he realy wants to play for us and would suit our style great, but if we went after Rodriguez in the end, he might be very dissapointed.