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[Naked Mole Rat 437]

Come on, mate. Ramiers is better at the center and has really done well in there making it his own. He wasnt much of an impact when he was playing in the wings for the few games which he was there so why push him there unless there is no other option. We need to utilize his pace and energy in the middle and not at the side. Again by pushing him into the right we would then need to look out for a CM to fill in the void. Better get a RW with Marin as the backup and we dont have to worry abt it for few years.

You're not thinking about the tactical aspects of the game. We'll get screwed if we line Hazard, Mata and Hulk together because we'll get a hugely polarized formation: the front four will attack only and the back six will struggle to support them because there will be a big gap between them. That's why we need Ramires to play on the right and make sure there isn't too much gap. And Ramires has made some very important contribution as a winger this season. If I'm not mistaken, he played both matches against Barcelona as a winger and against Liverpool in FA Cup final as well. I'm sure he can make that position his if he keeps on playing there and gets used to it.

And, I think we'd be better off if we'd invested on Mikel's new partner than on another winger.

[Strike 7,478]

We also just signed a massive deal with Audi, got rid of Drogab, Kalou, Bosingwa, Benayoun, Zhirkov, Anelka, Alex and possibly Essien. Our sponsorship deal with Adidas and Samsung is also yet to be signed too put it in shorter terms we've made an absolute shit load of money this season which is why even with signings gourlay said we're close to breaking even. You highlighted a key problem there when you said 'Meireles rotated' and which is why i think we'll get a CM because we can't have Lamps playing 40 games again this season, we need someone who can displace him and play regularly and Meireles isn't good enough in all honesty although a useful squad player

true but i dont think we have enough options tbh

modric - over 40mil
Sneijder - growing old
Christian Eriksen, - CAM - we have mata already
Kagawa - would have been the perfect fit actually but United
Cabaye - dont see him leavin Newc just yet

can't think of any other viable candidates at the moment. not yet convinced by marvin martin etc

[coolhead23 1,147]

You're not thinking about the tactical aspects of the game. We'll get screwed if we line Hazard, Mata and Hulk together because we'll get a hugely polarized formation: the front four will attack only and the back six will struggle to support them because there will be a big gap between them. That's why we need Ramires to play on the right and make sure there isn't too much gap. And Ramires has made some very important contribution as a winger this season. If I'm not mistaken, he played both matches against Barcelona as a winger and against Liverpool in FA Cup final as well. I'm sure he can make that position his if he keeps on playing there and gets used to it.

And, I think we'd be better off if we'd invested on Mikel's new partner than on another winger.

I m not saying get Hulk, i m saying get in a RW because that is the need of the hour. Again Ramires and Lampard/Mikel/Essien/Romeu r the ones who would bridge the gap between the offense and defense. because of Ramires pace and energy is why he is more needed at the center.

Last season we played Sturridge in the wings and by the latter half of the season he just vanished. We cant take the same risk again.

And if it is about investing in a player than would prefer a RW rather than CM at this point of time.

[Severinb 309]

Apparently we're stalling on signing Hulk to keep our options open. Which is a good move by our board. The general concensus among the Media and non-Chelsea fans is that we will buy a big name striker like Higuain, Cavani or Falcao if we don't buy Hulk. I really can't see that happening now that Torres has been given the full backing. It is also better for Torres if he doesn't have some immense big name striker competing for his position. It'll be Drogba all over again. If we don't buy Hulk we should definitely go for a CM.

How do you know?i thought the deal was 90% done?

[Spike 12,049]

Sneijder - growing old

28 isn't that old...Besides he plays behind the Striker. That position doesn't need filling.

[ChelsPrad2000 10]

marin at genk? i think u meant kdb. but i dont think rambo and mikel would be a good combo defensively. plus both of them dont have that range of passing as lamps as he showed in the barca match with the diagonal ball to rambo and that has got to be the most important aspect while playin in the double pivot.

Correct. Double pivot is all about intercepting the balls, disrupting the opponents in the channels, drop down to help the backline, distributing the ball properly for the attack. Lampard and Mikel did that pretty well for RDM.

[MRodgers1 6]

Hulk is such an odd player. He plays wide but has the physic and prowless of a Drogba when he is alone up front. Not sure how he fits into the mix. Lets get a manager who has a plan before we continue to spend. Hazard was a brilliant signing and was a must. It allows Hazard to play LW and Mata LM or vice versa. Mata lacks the burst in my opinion to play up front unless it is as a substitution role. I'd hate to see Sturridge leave because there is no way we can keep having him play 2nd fiddle to Torres or Hulk on the RW. I'm happy with saving the money and keeping Sturridge in the XI but Hulk brings something to the pitch that not many players have in the EPL. If we let Sturridge go we all know he will burn us each time we play him.

[BlueLyon 9,359]

I see Torres (while he was beast) very similar to Falcao. Size, style of play, both good with legs and head, long and short shots...

If Hulk can make Torres to score again, 40mio will be damn good spent.

I would pick Hulk over Falcao, because right now, we need very good winger and Hulk is only one that we were linked to. Torres will be back, Hazard, Hulk and Mata will take care if that.

Also, Modric or Moutinho would be good to have, since we will need some creativity from the back. That will give us better counters and faster, more creative play. But if Lamps can do it for another season, we dont need creative CM yet.

[themightyblue 443]

you do your research dude. its on wiki and i am pretty sure we bought him as a winger and not as a cm, and thats why people here are saying that we dont need another. you can even read other posts to make sure of it. as far as josh is concerned, how do u know that he is not ready? have we given him any chance. showed any faith in him. we want him to be a dm wen he definitely looks a perfect option for cam. and if you are worried bout josh and his physicality believe me u r in for a big disappointment when u see marin. and i do look at fergie. he trusted welbeck (who has one of the worst first touched for a striker) and played him ahead of berba and javier. we dont want to do that with danny and want hulk as am option. what does that say?

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The reason De Bruyne was on the wing at Genk was due to there not being many other options, but he found his best form at centre mid. He's not ready because although looking good at passing at Chelsea level and England under 21's, he doesn't have the workrate or tackling ability yet to be a starter for Chelsea. Ferguson sent out Welbeck on loan to the likes of Preston and Sunderland before giving his chance and breakthrough and saw no need to rush him, which is what we should do. Josh's time will come but as demonstrated by his time at Swansea, he's not good enough just yet and needs gametime elsewhere to mature as a player

[TorontoChelsea 4,064]

Buying a striker is so stupid, we have Torres who now has no excuses if we install this creativity in our play, we haven't seen him in a creative team for the past year and a half and that's a fact!.

Still with the Torres excuses? The team doesn't move the ball quickly enough, the formation is wrong, the style of play is wrong,he's too worried about having another striker around... etc.... He cost £50 million pounds. He should be able to score in any single formation or style. Chelsea had two main weaknesses last season. The first was a lack of a second creative midfielder/winger to allow Mata to stay in one place and to get some rest now and then. We bought Hazard to fix that. The second was a complete lack of success from our strikers. Not buying a new striker is crazy. Torres has now played 67 games at Chelsea and has been awful. I don't think people appreciate just how awful he's been. He's played 67 games with Chelsea and has scored 12 goals. That's bad enough but it's even worse than that. Of those 12 goals, 9 of them were in games where we beat up very poor sides. (Leicester, QPR, West Ham, Villa Genk, Birmingham). Against decent and good teams (say, top 10 in the premiership, Valencia, Napoli, Barcelona, Benfica, and Leverkusen) Torres has played 36 games with Chelsea and has scored 2 goals. In his 67 games at Chelsea, Torres has not scored a single goal to win us a game or to draw us even. We won the CL with Drogba. We won the FA Cup with Drogba. You look at a player like Drogba or Van Persie or Cisse or any good striker and they are able to create their own chances. They are able to turn nothing into goals. If Torres needs a team to be built to his own specifications to succeed, he's just isn't that good.

None of this is to say that Torres can't be a world-class striker. He was excellent at Liverpool and a return to that form is certainly possible, but to rely on a striker who has been so awful for a year and a half is insane. Especially if Chelsea are going to spend big this off-season.

[KonohasOrangeFlash 2,607]

He cost £50 million pounds. He should be able to score in any single formation or style.

That makes no sense. If we paid 50 Million for Heskey does that mean he should score tons? Torres was never worth 50 million. Yes I know we paid that much for him but it does not mean we should treat him like a player worth £50 Million. Judge Torres on the upcoming season. He will have good service and the team will play faster so now Torres has no excuses. Forget the past, judge him on the 12/13 season. It will be make or break for Torres's Chelsea career.

[Kojo 4,676]

Still with the Torres excuses? The team doesn't move the ball quickly enough, the formation is wrong, the style of play is wrong,he's too worried about having another striker around... etc.... He cost £50 million pounds. He should be able to score in any single formation or style. Chelsea had two main weaknesses last season. The first was a lack of a second creative midfielder/winger to allow Mata to stay in one place and to get some rest now and then. We bought Hazard to fix that. The second was a complete lack of success from our strikers. Not buying a new striker is crazy. Torres has now played 67 games at Chelsea and has been awful. I don't think people appreciate just how awful he's been. He's played 67 games with Chelsea and has scored 12 goals. That's bad enough but it's even worse than that. Of those 12 goals, 9 of them were in games where we beat up very poor sides. (Leicester, QPR, West Ham, Villa Genk, Birmingham). Against decent and good teams (say, top 10 in the premiership, Valencia, Napoli, Barcelona, Benfica, and Leverkusen) Torres has played 36 games with Chelsea and has scored 2 goals. In his 67 games at Chelsea, Torres has not scored a single goal to win us a game or to draw us even. We won the CL with Drogba. We won the FA Cup with Drogba. You look at a player like Drogba or Van Persie or Cisse or any good striker and they are able to create their own chances. They are able to turn nothing into goals. If Torres needs a team to be built to his own specifications to succeed, he's just isn't that good.

None of this is to say that Torres can't be a world-class striker. He was excellent at Liverpool and a return to that form is certainly possible, but to rely on a striker who has been so awful for a year and a half is insane. Especially if Chelsea are going to spend big this off-season.

Stop bull shitting

like i have said, it's a fact Torres has never played in a creative team eversince coming to Chelsea, that's a fact you can't argue with me on that, so lets see how he does in a creative team, i'm not saying he still shouldn't of had a stupid record.

[HNKS 508]

Stop bull shitting

like i have said, it's a fact Torres has never played in a creative team eversince coming to Chelsea, that's a fact you can't argue with me on that, so lets see how he does in a creative team, i'm not saying he still shouldn't of had a stupid record.

Its true. I can count on my hands the number of opportunities he has had. Even if he scored every chance he had he wouldnt be on that many goals.

[Kisho 33]

Its true. I can count on my hands the number of opportunities he has had. Even if he scored every chance he had he wouldnt be on that many goals.

So Euro 2012 will be the test for Torres

[Kisho 33]

Stop bull shitting

like i have said, it's a fact Torres has never played in a creative team eversince coming to Chelsea, that's a fact you can't argue with me on that, so lets see how he does in a creative team, i'm not saying he still shouldn't of had a stupid record.

Euro 2012, he will have the most creative team behind him, so lets see how he does. I hope he does well and carries his form for chelsea next season