David Luiz

[DJames 729]

Made a mistake today but tried his best to make it up. He gave us the advantage on several occasions and even created two chances for himself to score so coming off International break I'm not going to be too upset by his performance today. It was a silly mistake to make though....

[Strike 7,265]

He was due a moment like that. Has cut down on those lapses of concentration.

Very casual with his passing though. That is something he can work on. Just gave the ball away 2-3 times when under no pressure.

[didierforever 7,349]

Could give that piece of advice to yourself.

I don't know how anyone could slate Luiz for supposedly being a liability yet at the same time thinks Hummels is WC. That's really funny.

You seriously can't be disregarding Luiz's consistent performances over almost a whole season and then say Luiz is back to being "error prone" because hasn't been as good over a span of 5 or 6 games. That again, is ridiculous.

"all i wanted to say is said we could have bought 2 WC center-backs with 35mil. the first example that came to my mind was hummels-subotic (as they were , for me, the best CB pairing last season). but people have discarded all the other iportant points that i made before and after but have concentrated on these 2 names for some weird reason

(who were just instinctive names). " how conviniently did u not read the main part of my post. but yes, do carry on the hummels-thing do defend luiz.

over a whole season? luiz was good just was the 2nd half of the season.but which position - CDM. no one here is debating his class. his ease on the ball and his general ball-play, which is absolutely brillaint. but for a CB- he is a disaster waiting to happen.

[didierforever 7,349]

One of our best players today, no doubt about it, despite the mistake.

yes... definitely one of the best players. probably 14th best.

[hjperdeath 2,226]

Hummels and Subotic are so much error prone. Cringe worthy that Luiz is getting so much stick for a mistake. Let's get rid of Cech, Terry, Cole, Lampard, Luiz, Mikel. Bloody hell Hazard has been poor until the Cardiff game. FUCKING GET RID OF HIM AND BRING BACK JOE COLE ! They all make mistakes right?

[didierforever 7,349]

1st - stupid argument, maybe to avoid suffering a goal again?

2nd - 35M is basically Hummels' release clause, so no

give away a stupid goal like he did against everton and then perform brilliantly, i would rather take just a good solid performance of not making a mistake and just doing the needful. its not a stupid argument. its a fact. defenders' life is not easy. 89 minutes and 59 seconds of out-of the -world play can go to crap if u do something stupid in the remaining 1 second. cos it will always lead to a goal.

this is the 3rd time i am posting this particular part

"all i wanted to say is said we could have bought 2 WC center-backs with 35mil. the first example that came to my mind was hummels-subotic (as they were , for me, the best CB pairing last season). but people have discarded all the other iportant points that i made before and after but have concentrated on these 2 names for some weird reason

(who were just instinctive names). "

[Sidzeret 2,257]

well all i know is that, he has cost us atleast 3 points this season already(everton game), could have cost us another 2/3 today with his "defending" if u can call that. as for -1, i was really being generous.

No way..our strikers should take half the blame for the Everton game.

[Barbara 15,149]

Most of the facebook fan page user's are clueless buffon's anyway, it's like reading post's from that biite member but 10 times worse, i remember one person said a couple of years back we should start an unfit Alex for our do or die clash against Valencia in the CL to give him a farewell.

What's worse is nearly 300 people liked it

as clearly showed in some comments in this very thread, you don't need to go to FB.

I fail to see how Luiz 'continuously' fails us as said by others here. I see him being flawless in many consecutive matches and no f**** being given here (let alone in social medias and English media) and when he does an individual mistake (like today) or when he's part of a collective mistake (like Everton) he's crucified as if he was the worst CB ever.

There are some things that I simply give up. Expect people making sense of Luiz and valuing him for what he is (an amazing defender - albeit one that can definitely improve) is one of those.

[bushman 2,043]

At some games Luiz performed well, but occasionally he blunders badly.

If Mandala in bought in January, Luiz should be sold, in my opinion.

If he continues to make these school boy´s mistakes, & he will, it won´t sit well with Jose.

[Tomo 21,733]

oh!!! we must have seen different everton vs chelsea and norwich vs chelsea games.

also on a very very different side note, u actually believe luiz is worth 35mil? hazard was 32 mil, mata was 23, ozil is 42 and luiz is 35!!!!!!????

The Everton and Norwich goals were collective fault's were numerous players were at fault, one of them being Luiz.

Everton our whole team were dragged out of position pretty much which started from one of our attacking midfielders failing to close down space and the Norwich goal was a 3 way fuck up between Ivanovic for not closing down the cross and both Terry and Luiz for getting beaten in the air (they won't be the first defenders to lose out to Van Wolfswinkel and Pilkington).

You are being well, well to harsh.

[Tomo 21,733]

wow... luiz has been outperforming the CL finalists darkhorses. also i would say one of the best CB pair in the world, right now!!! (cant think of any other better)

They didn't win their CL final tho did they?

Luiz did.

While you mention it Subotic and Hummels both fucked up for Robben's winner, and did you see Hummels mistake against Real Madrid that led to Ronaldo's goal? just as bad as what Luiz did today, if not worse.

[didierforever 7,349]

They didn't win their CL final tho did they?

Luiz did.

While you mention it Subotic and Hummels both fucked up for Robben's winner, and did you see Hummels mistake against Real Madrid that led to Ronaldo's goal? just as bad as what Luiz did today, if not worse.

"all i wanted to say is said we could have bought 2 WC center-backs with 35mil. the first example that came to my mind was hummels-subotic (as they were , for me, the best CB pairing last season). but people have discarded all the other iportant points that i made before and after but have concentrated on these 2 names for some weird reason

(who were just instinctive names). "

5th time i am saying the same thing.

[didierforever 7,349]

The Everton and Norwich goals were collective fault's were numerous players were at fault, one of them being Luiz.

Everton our whole team were dragged out of position pretty much which started from one of our attacking midfielders failing to close down space and the Norwich goal was a 3 way fuck up between Ivanovic for not closing down the cross and both Terry and Luiz for getting beaten in the air (they won't be the first defenders to lose out to Van Wolfswinkel and Pilkington).

You are being well, well to harsh.

i have explained the everton goal before and going to say it again.

norwich i dont blame him completely but it was a reply to your "never made a mistake, this season".

[Tomo 21,733]

the only reason dante is playing is cos, BADSTUBER is gone for long.. (probably his carrer is gone.) and they dont have a bettr replacement. dante is no whre near WC. i mean WC class is vidic in his prime or JT in his prime.

i dint think dante is anywhere near that level.

Thiago Silva aside, i can't think of any defender close to that level playing today.

[bushman 2,043]

Luiz has been making too many mistakes in my opinion. Will he ever get better ? No, he will not.

Either we learn to live with it or he is sold. There are no ifs or buts here.

[Tomo 21,733]

"all i wanted to say is said we could have bought 2 WC center-backs with 35mil. the first example that came to my mind was hummels-subotic (as they were , for me, the best CB pairing last season). but people have discarded all the other iportant points that i made before and after but have concentrated on these 2 names for some weird reason

(who were just instinctive names). "

5th time i am saying the same thing.

Borussia will not sell those two for a combined £35m, that price might just about be good enough to get one of them.

Plus if they know we have just sold Luiz for £35-40m, they will probably demand more if we go for any of their CB's.

[Tomo 21,733]

i have explained the everton goal before and going to say it again.

norwich i dont blame him completely but it was a reply to your "never made a mistake, this season".

Not one that was solely down to him, no, before yesterday.

Vidic (vs Sunderland), Terry (vs Arsenal), Cahill (vs Brazil), Alex (vs West Brom), Ivanovic (vs Swansea twice) on the top of my head have made mistakes just as bad as Luiz's yesterday, heck shall i mention Carvalho's back pass that threatened to hand United the title giftwrapped. I could mention plenty of other times they have made mistakes (obvious or tactical) for all them players but im too hungover to rack my brain back the last decade.

Pique takes as many risk's and sometimes gets caught out, but because he plays for Barcelona that's fine apparently. Cultured defenders add something different to their game, it's in their nature to take chances and sometimes will get caught out, but what they add to the table counteract's that. Like Neville said, Is it a coincidence that the Luiz's, Pique's and Lucio's off this world have won International tournaments while the play safe hoof into row Z defenders are getting knocked out early on?

[didierforever 7,349]

Borussia will not sell those two for a combined £35m, that price might just about be good enough to get one of them.

Plus if they know we have just sold Luiz for £35-40m, they will probably demand more if we go for any of their CB's.

20 mil for subotic would do the treat then. to think they would demand 35 mil for subotic is exagerattion. they sold gotze to their biggest and only league rivals in munich for 37 mil.