David Luiz

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Good bye Luiz. A great personality, but I think he will be better in the Spanish League.

[zolayes 14,489]

Cavani swap with Oscar, Luiz sold for 30-35m and we are all happy.

I guess you arent a Chelsea fan so who should we let have Hazard?

[zolayes 14,489]

The thing is Luiz is good in CM with Matic but say god for bid Matic gets a long lay off? Luiz isn't any where near as comfortable with Lamps and his partnership with Rami is a ticking time bomb.

so we sell Luiz because Matic might get injured ,,,,

[lionsden 4,689]

Cavani swap with Oscar, Luiz sold for 30-35m and we are all happy.

If you mean straight swap then you must be joking. Oscar plus £18m for Cavani would be good business and no one is dumb enough to pay £30 plus for Luiz. we need to stop overrating our players.

[The Mak 4,459]

I guess you arent a Chelsea fan so who should we let have Hazard?

To be honest, if they start throwing ridiculous bids for any of the two players I would take it. Hazard is central to the way we play but were Oscar and Luiz completely central to Mourinho's plans this season? No. Oscar went off the boil in and around Christmas and was dropped for almost everyone of our 'big' games. Luiz was 3rd choice CB and played in midfield more often than not (and he's NOT a DM, he's a CB with legs).

FFP clearly does not apply to PSG and they play in a shit league so they'll naturally have to pay more. They also have Cavani...to be honest, doing business with them would strengthen us a lot more if we used to money correctly. We were always going to make 1-2 big signings but everything could possibly be addressed in the one window, i.e. Shaw, CM/DLP, Costa/Cavani along with an AM that can actually unlock doors.

[The only place to be 11,313]

Cavani swap with Oscar,

When you let any player go, you have to factor in the cost of replacing them surely. Who do we replace Oscar with?

Plus swap deals are far rarer than posters on here make out.

[MrBlueGuy 1,552]

If you mean straight swap then you must be joking. Oscar plus £18m for Cavani would be good business and no one is dumb enough to pay £30 plus for Luiz. we need to stop overrating our players.

I know but he is atm one of our better player so obviously we are going to overvalue him.For Luiz Barca already willing to pay 25m, if PSG want then 30m is not too unrealistic.

[Atlas Lion 1,223]

so we sell Luiz because Matic might get injured ,,,,

We also have a certain Spaniard out on loan who's name is Oriol Romeu. Remember him?

His sort of simple distribution and covering at the back could improve our squad.

[MrBlueGuy 1,552]

When you let any player go, you have to factor in the cost of replacing them surely. Who do we replace Oscar with?

Plus swap deals are far rarer than posters on here make out.

Yep but it makes sense though Cavani is not too happy there atm with his role and to replace I would say Gritzemann and move Hazard or Willian to the middle. Or sign someone like Reus who could play any of those 3 CAM positions too

[Atlas Lion 1,223]

Yep but it makes sense though Cavani is not too happy there atm with his role and to replace I would say Gritzemann and move Hazard or Willian to the middle. Or sign someone like Reus who could play any of those 3 CAM positions too

Griezmann? Reus?

You do know we have quality players such as Atsu and Piazon out on loan for us who have been nothing short of spectacular at Vitesse right?

And get this, they're free.

Regardless, Selling Oscar would be ludicrous.

[MrBlueGuy 1,552]

Griezmann? Reus?

You do know we have quality players such as Atsu and Piazon out on loan for us who have been nothing short of spectacular at Vitesse right?

And get this, they're free.

Yeah but imagine losing Oscar and replacing him with Piazon/Atsu, the fans would cause an uproar but you are right that is a good option too.

[The only place to be 11,313]

Yep but it makes sense though Cavani is not too happy there atm with his role and to replace I would say Gritzemann and move Hazard or Willian to the middle. Or sign someone like Reus who could play any of those 3 CAM positions too

Could do but financially it's a big hit and Oscar needs at least a season more here to prove himself. His form earlier in the season was spectacular but he's been shit in the second half (maybe a bit harsh).

Need to stick with young players like him who will have dips in form.

Griezmann? Reus?

You do know we have quality players such as Atsu and Piazon out on loan for us who have been nothing short of spectacular at Vitesse right?

And get this, they're free.

Regardless, Selling Oscar would be ludicrous.

Atsu and Piazon need to be part of the squad in the summer but I'm not holding my breath on either of them.

[Atlas Lion 1,223]

Yeah but imagine losing Oscar and replacing him with Piazon/Atsu, the fans would cause an uproar but you are right that is a good option too.

Losing Oscar itself would be an uproar imo.

[lionsden 4,689]

I know but he is atm one of our better player so obviously we are going to overvalue him.For Luiz Barca already willing to pay 25m, if PSG want then 30m is not too unrealistic.

Oscar and Luiz are not key players for us and the only reason it may appear as though they are is due to the quality and depth of our squad which a lot of fans including neutrals seem to overrate.

They wouldn't get into any elite side in Europe bar Barcelona (in luiz's case) but only because their defence is so rubbish.

[Joker10 946]

If you mean straight swap then you must be joking. Oscar plus £18m for Cavani would be good business and no one is dumb enough to pay £30 plus for Luiz. we need to stop overrating our players.

If Cavani was playing in the EPL and had the season he had at PSG he would have been called a flop. Didn't live up to the expectation and his teammates are unhappy with his commitment. It is also rumored the player has told PSG that he won't play outwide again, unless Ibra amazingly decline over the summer he will play out wide again next season.

A straight swap between Oscar and Cavani would be a bad move already, adding cash to the deal would be ludicrous.

As for Luiz? PSG paid 45m for Marquinhos, you think they won't pay 30m+ for Luiz? We don't have to debate this because time will tell and Luiz will be sold for more then 30m.

[The only place to be 11,313]

Losing Oscar itself would be an uproar imo.

Spot on. Young players by their very nature are inconsistent (especially coming from another country) and need our SUPPORT. Yet some people simply want us to buy success rather than nurturing these youngsters.

Oscar has shown enough for anyone to realise he has a lot of talent. He just needs to get that consistency which will only come with patience.

[Atlas Lion 1,223]

Could do but financially it's a big hit and Oscar needs at least a season more here to prove himself. His form earlier in the season was spectacular but he's been shit in the second half (maybe a bit harsh).

Need to stick with young players like him who will have dips in form.

Atsu and Piazon need to be part of the squad in the summer but I'm not holding my breath on either of them.

Both would benefit this squad with much valuable depth and competition for Oscar. Both are ready to make the next step and having another signing would just ruin their development by them staying at Vitesse.

[MrBlueGuy 1,552]

Oscar and Luiz are not key players for us and the only reason it may appear as though they are is due to the quality and depth of our squad which a lot of fans including neutrals seem to overrate.

They wouldn't get into any elite side in Europe bar Barcelona (in luiz's case) but only because their defence is so rubbish.

PSG, Arsenal, Liverpool, MU, Juve, Milan, Inter, Dortmund, Barca, Atletico and a few more would love them. I know they haven't been great this season but you are seriously underrating him