TorontoChelsea 4,064 Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 Looks like Mourinho has spoken to him and made slight changes to his game, when to go forward, when to stay, when to play it out, when to clear it etc.Still not enough. Luiz had a 57% passing rate which is just atrocious and had 4 fouls to 1 tackle and no interceptions. People will remember the passes he connected on, but still way too many turnovers of possession by trying to hit the perfect pass..Still, it was his first game under Jose and it's nice to have him back as he makes our team better. If anyone can get Luiz to simplify his game, it's Mourinho. Hannah, CHOULO19 and OneMoSalah 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 Not too sure about that. He was probably ordered to so to cover any gap or space that is vacated by Lampard and Ramires ahead of the back, but the amount of times he kept on stepping out from the back and making those rash looking challenges was really scaring me off. Probably even somewhat surprised he didn't get sent off!Still not enough. Luiz had a 57% passing rate which is just atrocious and had 4 fouls to 1 tackle and no interceptions. People will remember the passes he connected on, but still way too many turnovers of possession by trying to hit the perfect pass..Still, it was his first game under Jose and it's nice to have him back as he makes our team better. If anyone can get Luiz to simplify his game, it's Mourinho. I think hes made slight adaptations to his game, he's obviously not worked with Jose for too long so its still a work in progress. His passing percentage is quite bad, most of his passes were long ones though, aimed towards our wide players so we could hit them on the counter which was the game plan. His partnership with Cahill looks to keep improving, under AVB they were shocking together, Robbie and Benitez used them at times and they looked better (most notably the CL final) and tonight him and Gazza looked good together. I suppose we had everyone behind the ball 9 times out of 10 so they had a lot of protection but I'm not taking anything away from how far they've come as a partnership. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Flash 1,144 Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 Thought he was outstanding tonight. Could be the best defender in the World under Jose's guidance.Totally agre I thought he was brilliant really have us a confidence, was wonderful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skeeo 37 Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 Needs to leave the free kicks that aren't near the box to Frankie! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 in the match, he was brilliant. but the way he consoled lukaku after the match... hats off,,, future captain... Barbara 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 And to think people didn't think this guy was future captain material because he likes to joke a bit...For me he has to be the next captain. blu35_army and Barbara 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kojo 4,676 Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 I'm sorry to change my mindBUT WE CAN'T SELL HIMHe was fucking outstanding today, his long range passing was fucking exceptional, and didn't he get the assist on Hazards goal? Well either way he started a lot of attacks, it's player like him what will create more goals as well as minimizing the ones against us. Barbara and Henrique 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 I'm sorry to change my mindBUT WE CAN'T SELL HIMHe was fucking outstanding today, his long range passing was fucking exceptional, and didn't he get the assist on Hazards goal? Well either way he started a lot of attacks, it's player like him what will create more goals as well as minimizing the ones against us.Have you ever said we should sell him? Thats a shame Sloth, but I forgive you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kojo 4,676 Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 Have you ever said we should sell him? Thats a shame Sloth, but I forgive you.Nope, I don't think I ever said that, maybe a year ago when he was playing bad and I was in knee jerk mode, forgive me man But when Barca apparently offered 40 million for him a week ago, I said we should accept. Now I have changed my mind, he's already back to how he was this season, I think he's going to be a great player. Henrique 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 Superb game, its sad even when he plays a good match stupid members will come with ultra-negative bullshit. Kojo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyalBlues 4,050 Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 Luiz is back! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbara 15,149 Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 Not too sure about that. He was probably ordered to so to cover any gap or space that is vacated by Lampard and Ramires ahead of the back 4, but the amount of times he kept on stepping out from the back and making those rash looking challenges was really scaring me off. Probably even somewhat surprised he didn't get sent off!Still not enough. Luiz had a 57% passing rate which is just atrocious and had 4 fouls to 1 tackle and no interceptions. People will remember the passes he connected on, but still way too many turnovers of possession by trying to hit the perfect pass..Still, it was his first game under Jose and it's nice to have him back as he makes our team better. If anyone can get Luiz to simplify his game, it's Mourinho. Two things (imo): I don't think he was a liability at any moment. When it mattered he blocked, tackled, cleared the balls that needed to be taken away from our box. The guy has barely played since Confed Cup, has been injured for a few weeks, so I think his pass accuracy is expected to be affected?His long passes were amazing though, the way he connected the plays with the midfield and even the direct linkup with the attack was really good, especially because he's a CB...Also, Jay, why could he be sent off? I don't think there was anything that would have given the referee to send him off - except a bad call.The one bad thing I've noticed though... recently he seemed to have shortened his temper a bit. He's not short tempered, but he's less calm than he used to be. It seems like opponents are riling him up more often. That could be a problem in the future if it continues to progress.Definitely captain material. not only because of the leadership, the commitment, the seriousness when needed, but also because he's sensitive/supportive to his teammates bad patches. This is the guy who prays for Fer before matches, who comforts the boy that missed the final penalty, that cracks a joke when things are too tense in the dressing room (more than one player stated that). This sensibility makes him a captain like few would be. His leadership is indisputable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 Also, Jay, why could he be sent off? This guy is usually hypercritical when Luiz is the subject. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meetdoscar 335 Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 Best defender for me. No defender does what he does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zyzz 711 Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 So happy that we didn't sell this guy. Played 120 minutes after an injury, took our first penalty and was the first one to console Lukaku. This man is a true leader BleedsBlue and John1611 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ankit 3,176 Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 I have absolutely no problem if i am a "Luiz fan boy" because i totally am!! I am sure if he finishes his career here with us, he will be up there on the list of my favorite ever players of the modern era along with JT and Lampard and the Drogs! Henrique and The_Flash 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TorontoChelsea 4,064 Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 Two things (imo): I don't think he was a liability at any moment. When it mattered he blocked, tackled, cleared the balls that needed to be taken away from our box. The guy has barely played since Confed Cup, has been injured for a few weeks, so I think his pass accuracy is expected to be affected?His long passes were amazing though, the way he connected the plays with the midfield and even the direct linkup with the attack was really good, especially because he's a CB...Also, Jay, why could he be sent off? I don't think there was anything that would have given the referee to send him off - except a bad call.The one bad thing I've noticed though... recently he seemed to have shortened his temper a bit. He's not short tempered, but he's less calm than he used to be. It seems like opponents are riling him up more often. That could be a problem in the future if it continues to progress.Definitely captain material. not only because of the leadership, the commitment, the seriousness when needed, but also because he's sensitive/supportive to his teammates bad patches. This is the guy who prays for Fer before matches, who comforts the boy that missed the final penalty, that cracks a joke when things are too tense in the dressing room (more than one player stated that). This sensibility makes him a captain like few would be. His leadership is indisputable.This is where statistics are very useful. Luiz's long passes were only amazing when they hit. he was 5/15 on long balls which is terrible. You say he "blocked and tackled". He had 0 blocks and 1 tackle. He did clear the ball well and overall, he wasn't bad, he he certainly had a worse game than Cahill and and was hardly the force some are trying to make him out to be. It's one game and he's been hurt so I don't think it matters at all, but I don't understand why anyone would think he had some kind of great game or anything. Amblève. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbara 15,149 Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 This is where statistics are very useful. Luiz's long passes were only amazing when they hit. he was 5/15 on long balls which is terrible. You say he "blocked and tackled". He had 0 blocks and 1 tackle. He did clear the ball well and overall, he wasn't bad, he he certainly had a worse game than Cahill and and was hardly the force some are trying to make him out to be. It's one game and he's been hurt so I don't think it matters at all, but I don't understand why anyone would think he had some kind of great game or anything. this is where stats are crazy I'd say... I've seen him clearing the ball for us in a few occasions that are vivid still in my memory...I'll watch the replay later to confirm I'm not crazy instead, but yeah I remember a few cases. And that's the thing with long passes, anyone is prone to make mistakes, but you have a few of them right or even one and you give us a counter attack our the winner goal... and please, out of those 15 I'm sure there were cases where we were just getting rid of the ball in the extra time - which is why stats lie sometimes and you have to put it in context.I'll see where I can find a vid from the match and I'll back to you I'll come up with my own stats when I watch the replay. semiller1313 and JDY 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jcar92 66 Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 this is where stats are crazy I'd say... I've seen him clearing the ball for us in a few occasions that are vivid still in my memory...I'll watch the replay later to confirm I'm not crazy instead, but yeah I remember a few cases. And that's the thing with long passes, anyone is prone to make mistakes, but you have a few of them right or even one and you give us a counter attack our the winner goal... and please, out of those 15 I'm sure there were cases where we were just getting rid of the ball in the extra time - which is why stats lie sometimes and you have to put it in context.I'll see where I can find a vid from the match and I'll back to you I'll come up with my own stats when I watch the replay.if i remember right, one of the 2 goals against Bayern started with one of his crazy runs in which he passed trough 2 defenders and made a long pass taking Bayern's lineback unprepared. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbara 15,149 Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 if i remember right, one of the 2 goals against Chelsea started with one of his crazy runs in which he passed trough 2 defenders and made a long pass taking Chelsea's lineback unprepared.I remember both goals quite vividly... if that's the case, it's the first goal... which was not a counter, and there's a lot of credit to give to Ribery - who passed by Ramires and shot - I even read people complaining about Ramires and Cech in that goal. The second goal started in a play that Lukaku didn't press much the guy when they recovered the ball after we cleared it from our box. I don't know what you could possibly be talking about.I rest my case. This is the first time I post in his thread during official competition. I've got it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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